Now that we've had a chance to try the Concussion Rifle, what do you think?

[Kurgan]

To follow up on that other thread that Wilhuf & co. were having, what are you impressions of the Concussion Rifle now that you've gotten to use it in the Demo (if you haven't, go try it out now!)?

 

Granted, it will most likely be tweaked for balance in MP....

 

I like the effects. The primary has a nice blast radius (not as big and boomy as the JK1 one, but still nice) and the secondary has a nice "body launching" effect.

 

I reminds me strongly of the Shock Rifle from UT (though less purple and without the super combo shot option).

 

The First Person mode model looks very cool, and much nicer than the initial "boring" model people were complaining about on the official JA site.

 

The "hum" it gives off will signal its approach, perhaps to haunt the dreams of Jedi for years to come... ; )

 

Comments? Screenshots?

[WhiteShdw]

I like it. It has good splash damage and it's a whole lot faster than those damn rockets. This will probably be the weapon of choice for any would be Jedi killer.

 

One thing did leave me puzzled. I managed to kill some cultist with the Rifle(even a saber wielding one), but a reborn will somehow reflect the blast right back at me, killing me instantly. I wonder if this is possible in Mp, because I never managed to reflect the shots myself in SP. I usually died after the first shot .

[Neverhoodian]

I like the Concussion Rifle. The damage it deals seems balanced. It packs a wallop, but isn't an insanely powerful weapon. It sure uses up the ammo quickly, though.

 

btw, is it possible to block the shots with the lightsaber? I had a few shots fly back in my face in the Chandrila demo level when I shot it at a Force-wielding enemy, but I wasn't sure if it was because it was pushed back at me or if his lightsaber deflected it back.

 

Whoop, simul-post there.

[Tesla]

It's nice to have the Concussion Rifle back, i missed it when it wasn't in JK2, and it makes a welcome addition to the JA weapon arsenal.

[Anakin1607]

It actually kills weak Sith cultists! Finally! A gun that works on saber weilders!

 

Just don't use it on the armored cultists...

[JDKnite188]

When it was revealed that the concussion rifle was going to be included in JA, I was one of the few people who didn't like the idea.

 

Now that I have tried out the conc rifle, I have to say that they have made great improvements especially in balance. It is powerful, but it has high recoil. It probably wouldn't be too effective in spamming; that is a good thing!

[Lightsaberboy]

i think it's sweet. since it's an explosion-ish weapon, it prolly wont be able to be deflected by the saber, but since the secondary fire goes as fast as a disruptor, do you guys think it'd be possible to dodge those shots?

[taekwondo joe]

i love it, best weapon besides the lightsaber, a good gun indeed

[oasisfan]

lol this thing is gonna be elite in JKA MP if it is in.

 

I wonder how the new and old CTF maps will play with the concussion rifle lol.

 

 

Oasisfan

[Pedro The Hutt]

The conc is quite handy in some situations, I'm sure we've all encountered the duo of where one does saber fighting and the other only uses Force powers to taunt you. Often it happens that when you blast the one without a saber that his pal will jump away to avoid getting caught in the blast, and often it sends him over the edge, phew, just saved myself another annoying duel XD (actually, fighting those are quite fun though, I just discovered that by accident)

[Belgirion]

btw, is it possible to block the shots with the lightsaber? I had a few shots fly back in my face in the Chandrila demo level when I shot it at a Force-wielding enemy, but I wasn't sure if it was because it was pushed back at me or if his lightsaber deflected it back.

 

the conc blast was force pushed back, just like rockets.

 

 

I love how the concussion secondary fire knocks the victim about 20 feet in the air. Sometimes I put on slowmotion (in console the command is /timescale .2) and use the conc rifle only, It's so cool watching the enemies fly back, twirling through the air because of the ragdoll physics (well, the ragdoll physics aren't as good as in Half-Life 2 or UT2003, but they're better than nothing)

[Dr_night]

Best gun in the game, only to problems; it uses up ammo WAY to fast, and you should NOT be able to dodge/push/reflect the secondary fire

[Kurgan]

The primary shots seem to be pushed back by the Reborn, and the secondary they "dodge" (like the Jedi in JK2 dodged sniper shots).

 

It remains to be seen what counters there will be for it in MP.

 

I would think the high ammo consumption, slow rate of fire, and kickback/head jerk (forcing you to line up your shots more carefully and make each one count) combined with the noise factor and placement in maps would be enough to balance it with the other weapons.

 

Also, like the UT shock rifle, the shots are near instaneous hits (could be they fool the eye though), as they should be.

[XanaJedi]

i think its too powerfull

 

 

and please they are called cultists, not reborn, ur just obsessed with reborn heads u headhunter

[ImmolatedYoda]

thats not entirely true Primo. there are "new" reborn and also cultists in the demo.

[Kurgan]

I have tried not to use the terms interchangably... the "cultists" are the (crappier) guys in green and brown, some with sabers, some not.

 

The Reborn in this game are the guys in red padded (or is that armor?) outfits and they seem much more adept with the Force.

[Thazac]

Have to say I loved it. Seems reasonably balanced too. High damage, decent ROF, recoil, high ammo consumption, push/dodgable. Nice addition. I personally loved the sound it made in DF. Wussier sound now, but still acceptable. Gotta love the crackling sound of electricity when you hold it.

[Sam Fisher]

I loved it!

[Blademaster_109]

Originally posted by WhiteShdw

I like it. It has good splash damage and it's a whole lot faster than those damn rockets. This will probably be the weapon of choice for any would be Jedi killer.

 

One thing did leave me puzzled. I managed to kill some cultist with the Rifle(even a saber wielding one), but a reborn will somehow reflect the blast right back at me, killing me instantly. I wonder if this is possible in Mp, because I never managed to reflect the shots myself in SP. I usually died after the first shot .

 

what he said

[Grets Sirob]

A very good weapon indeed.

I like the new effects, very interesting.

The damage is nice and high, but the ammo consumption is a good trade off for that.

I'd have to say I liked the sounds for JK1 better though, nothing beats that nice high-pitched, "Chewww!" sound.

[princessliar]

Blowing yourself up with it is fun - the screen shakes for about a minute afterwards!

[Bob Gnarly]

I found it SAWEEET! it was great because finally a merc. has a chance of fighting a jedi without getting his ass kicked, i killed to D.J.'s with one shot, its a great weapon to even up the Merc vs jedis for Siege mode in MP.

[Kurgan]

So most people like the new Conc... great. ; )

[B00thbe]

Its pretty wicked.

[Bob Gnarly]

Heh, i like that quote in your sig Kurgan wheres it from?