RoguePhotonic Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 We have seen that they can breath out there so It doesn't matter...it's one of those things you are not supposed to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Yeah but that was in the tunnels of the real. I think the humans made them, so they must have oxygen in. Notice all of the pipes and stuff going everywhere? I'm probably completely wrong so yeah, let's not think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 What about when neo woke up from his tube?..where was that?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Good point. The thing that annoyed me about that was when the machine unplugged him. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Maybe it's standard if they wake up to kill em...after all he was washed into a pool of water and you can't swim.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 It certainly proves that the "real world" isn't so real after all. That Neo destroying Sentinels, and Smith's infiltration, just show another level of the Matrix that exists. As much as the last movie was long, throwing you in one direction, the last 5-10 minutes almost made the whole movie a red herring, irrelevant to what they really wanted to show you. Notice that Smith in someone elses body, in the supposed real world, is now seen like how Neo saw the world when in the Matrix... Doesn't that look like Cypher, with hair that he has taken over??? What is that meant to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 The guy who was taken over wasn't cypher, he was obliterfired. They guy is called Bane, you even see him get taken over and then Smith goes through the phone into his body. I still don't want to beleive it is as simple as another matrix outside the original. I think when Neo explodes Smith in the first film part of Neo is copied onto him like he says, but part of Smith is also copied onto Neo. Thus the ability to effect the machines in the real world. I'm pretty sure now that Smith, or Bane, causes Neo to go blind with the obliterfrier.... well, the electric beam gun thing. Notice the burn marks on Neo's face around the cloth? So our hero is blind We will hopefully find out what happened to Smith after he exploded. He probably didn't, but my guess is that he went into the world that Neo is trapped in in revolutions. Anyhoo I can't wait for all these things to be answered. And if they aren't I'll scream like this *screams* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{BK}SupremePain Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 yeah i saw the trailer yesterday. macho kickass. (hi all by the way) i love the scene in the trailer where Smith and Neo punches eachother at the same time... yum.... EDIT: by the way i like the new layout on the forums.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 i love the scene in the trailer where Smith and Neo punches eachother at the same time What I find odd about that scene is everytime you see it in different previews they switch places in the middle of the swing...is that some message neo is smith and smith is neo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 *Adds to list of things to check out at cousins broadband house* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 28, 2003 Share Posted September 28, 2003 Just noticed something. In the trailer, the "real" world is reffered to as the machine world. Maybe this means that it is a seperate program afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 NO NO NO I SWEAR TO GOD I'LL SET FIRE TO THE WACHOSKI BROTHER'S HOUSES IF ITS A MATRIX INSIDE OF A MATRIX!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 yea that is just so predictible, i do not think that would be thier style to go with what everybody expects. it better not be that simple or i will just yell when i walk out of the theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 .... *stabs Chase with a spoon* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Yes Chase. You're missing the point that it'd be completely moronic for there to be a matrix inside of a matrix. It dosen't even make sense. Say, you get freed. Okay, wow, the REAL world sucks. Robots trying to kill me. Wow cool, this blows. What? I'm still in another matrix? WTF was the point? Why is the archetecht of the matrix on the lowest level? Why is the oracle on the lowest level? WHY DO ALL THE REAL BADDIES EXIST ON THE LOWEST LEVEL!! IT'S RETARTED!! I think I might have seen this wrong, but when he talks to big bad roboty guy, his eyes aren't scorched or gouged out JUST yet. I think maybe he blindfolded himself so he wouldn't have to see the fields of grown humans, which would probably make him go insane. Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 But most of them do end up seeing the fields at one point or another. Remember in the first one when Morpheus was talking about seeing them himself? Good spot about the eyes though. They sure don't look injured yet there. and whoever was talking about Smith and Neo switching places when they punched. They don't, the camera just changes. Here's a question! Why are they using those mech suits? Why aren't they using the magnetic pulse weapons on their remaining ships? It seemed to be quite effective against the squidies in the first movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Well I think they are but you can't stop them all like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 still don't get why the machines didn't just use geothermal power.... its gotta be more efficient than running marticies and farming humans. haven't seen the trailers though, so i may be missing something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 As far as I'm concerned Neo puts on the blindfold before he and trinity enter that huge fleet of sentinals. That way his eyes won't be damaged by the heat and light of the huge explosion of the sentinals when he does his thing. The burn marks are the after effect, maybe he is found by the machines and taken to the giant floaty head dude. You can't really see if he has the blindfold on when he talks to him. -Edit Nevermind, just saw some REALLY nasty looking burn marks around the outside of the cloth BEFORE the explosions. Looks like Neo is blinded. Ironic isn't it. How he won't ever be able to see the new world. About the EMP, they can't use the EMP inside Zion, it would shut down all of their systems, including the life support. Besides, a good deal of the ships were destroyed in the second film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by RoguePhotonic Well I think they are but you can't stop them all like that. And they CAN with the mech suits? About the EMP, they can't use the EMP inside Zion, it would shut down all of their systems, including the life support. Besides, a good deal of the ships were destroyed in the second film. They're about to be erradicated by 200,000 killer robots. You'd think they'd shut those down for a few minutes so they could better fight to keep their entire city from being destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Maybe the hovercraft are defending the perimeter against bigger foes? What is left of them anyway. I guess we will just have to wait and see. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett They're about to be erradicated by 200,000 killer robots. You'd think they'd shut those down for a few minutes so they could better fight to keep their entire city from being destroyed. [/b] Well yeah, but considering the EMP lasts alot longer than a few minutes I don't think they'd take the risk. At the end of Enter the Matrix, you use the EMP and you have to wait to be rescued, so I don't think it lasts just a few minutes. And LeXX. I think the hovercraft would more than likely be wiped out my the little shrimpy things if they hung around outside too long, so my guess is they all came home for some tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by Lost Welshman considering the EMP lasts alot longer than a few minutes What? To fire it off again ya mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Welshman Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by Boba Rhett What? To fire it off again ya mean? No I mean the effect it causes. Considering it shuts down everything electrical then maybe they needed to be found to get a kickstart or something. In which case why don't they use EMP's in Zion??? Weird 23rd century party poopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 check out these new posters from the official site... to get the full size ones go here http://www.thematrix.com let the (next) matrix revolution begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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