dark jedi 8 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 *cough* clone army *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Originally posted by ronbrothers I believe that it will be Anakin Skywalker who kills him in his first official betrayal of the Jedi. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1ave One Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Everybody has to die sometime,why not Windu,I hate him anyway for killing Jango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Originally posted by kipperthefrog Im glad you agree! what was the POINT of having Windu kill Jango (or even HAVE the Fetts in Episode 2 for that matter) if Boba is not going to kill Windu? The point was to show that Mace Windu had some skills, plus George Lucas and Rick McCallum have both said on many occassions that Boba will not yet have become a bounty hunter and will have a very small role/part in the movie. Samuel L Jackson also said that he knew he was going to be killed off, but he didnt want to get killed off like some punk, and having one of the uber Jedi Masters knocked off by some 13-year old brat is getting killed off like a punk. Plus you have to realize that the Prime Minister of Kamino said that Jango had requested for an UN-altered genetic clone of himself with NO growth acceleration, so Boba will act and appear as a 13 yr old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 hmmm, first off id like to say that i dont believe boba will kill mace. but i would like to point a few things out all the same. growth accelleration. we dont know how it works so we dont know what could happen with it. as is the process is double the average speed (2 years in 1) so if the technology didnt improve AT ALL, then boba could be 15 by ep3. if it improved more then he could be even older. he still wouldnt be a fully grown bounty hunter but not as rediculous as a 13 yr old killer. and why would boba/jango be in ep2 if not to set up for boba vs mace? simple, GL does what ppl want. boba fett was NEVER going to be important, hell they killed him half an hour into ep6 (and later brought him back if you follow the EU or the games storylines). he served his purpose in finding/capturing han. also the whole accent thing, boba did NOT sound anything like jango did in ep2 when we heard boba talk to vader etc in ep5/6. this tells us that boba wasnt planned to be big so they just through him in there for the diehard boba fans to see. it was either that or more jar jar filler and i think GL made the right choice. personally i want to see mace vs anakin post vader suit. death by grip! none of that flashy stabby/cutty crap. just choke the mofo out with your invisible fist after some crazy acrobatics that make us oo and ahh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangofett804 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Boba SHOULD kill Mace Windu, cuz it would just make it a little more interesting. I'd rather watch a bounty hunter kill a jedi with gadgets and pistols as opposed to sitting through a session of Sidius throwing a few rounds of chained lightning bolts at Mace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I'd rather see Anakin do it & take the ultimate first step in the betrayal of the Jedi & the end of the order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Well, seeing as how Rick M. has told interviewers, the clone wars will only last 3 years (in real time to us aka 2002-2005), and that Boba will only be 13, so his role in Episode will be insignificant since it will only be near the end that Boba starts his path towards the ways of the bounty hunter. And Lama Su even told Obi-wan that Jango had an unaltered genetic replica made without any growth acceleration or anything. Plus if you really want to see a bounty hunter kill a Jedi, watch Jango pick off Coleman Trebor during the Geonosis segment of Episode 2. And I know that GL does not do what people want. He even said in a 20/20 special that he is telling his story, and there will definitely be aspects in which the fans will want things done differently, but that he will stick to his story as he sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Originally posted by Andy867 And I know that GL does not do what people want. He even said in a 20/20 special that he is telling his story, and there will definitely be aspects in which the fans will want things done differently, but that he will stick to his story as he sees it. Thats why it feels like I'm in a small minority that actually enjoy's the PT IE: Leave your preconceptions at the door & enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbrothers Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Definatley Anakin Skywalker -- Darth Vader-to-be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 I still think Palpatine will help out in some form. Plus if they have some royal guards in the room they might help out also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okoru Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I wanna say Anakin, to symbolise his betrayal of the Jedi. But i can't help but think Palpatine will have at least a part in it, if not fully involved. I have a feeling Mace will be talking to Palpatine and Palps will suddenly Force Lightening him, catching Mace off-guard, and then keep going until Mace is dead. Something along those lines me-thinks. Okoru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted May 22, 2004 Share Posted May 22, 2004 As for Windu's killer, I think it's Anakin himself. Jackson said that the duel will be 173-moves long, so another has to be involved. I believe that Dooku will not be killed at the beginning, but he will duel Windu and die easily. Then Anakin will enter, sent by Palpy and duel Windu. After that, Anakin slays Windu and there you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I am betting Anakin duels with Mace for a while, then Mace is about to beat him, and Palpatine steps in and shoots lightening at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 ^^ Thats a good idea. I'm thinkin it may go like this; Mace confronts him, all hell breaks loose, Palps is zapping him, & Anakin finishes it with a saber through the neck. I don't know, I can't shake this feeling that Anakin will kill Mace. But I've been wrong before it is just a feeling after all.... ahhh c'mon 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk MennoniteHobbit, it takes a lot more than just avoiding the use of the Force to cover up the fact that you can use the Force. Qui-Gon sensed almost immediately that Anakin had potential, but he needed a midichlorian count to see just how powerful Anakin was. And Palpatine is a political genius. Here's the web he's woven in the last two movies: In episode I, he secretly orcestrated the invasion of his own home planet, using the Trade Federation as his pawns, to humiliate the present Supreme Chancellor, who is tied down in beurocracy (which I'm sure Palpatine was responcible for). Valorum's inability to act on behalf of her planet, Queen Amidala demands a vote of no-confidence. Palpatine, the senator from Naboo, is able to gather enough sympathy votes (and probably coerced more than a few people) to become chancellor. That was the entire point of episode I. Oh, but Palpatine also made another clever move--he let the Federation goombahs know that he was in the Senate. In episode II, Palpatine, through Dooku, through Jango, organizes the assassination-attempt of Senator Amidala. Then, he convinces the Jedi Council to assign Obi-Wan to protect Amidala, which means, as he knows, Anakin will again come into contact with her. Remember, all of this time Palpatine has been watching Anakin's career with "great interest" and has become Anakin's mentor. He knows that Anakin's feelings for Amidala will throw him off-balance and very well set him up for a fall to the Dark Side. Anyway, Palpatine is also in charge of both the Republic and the Separatists, through his Apprentice. Palpatine betrayed the Trade Federation in Episode I--the Federation forces know this! So, here comes Dooku, Palpatine's new apprentice. The Federation tells Dooku that they were betrayed by the Dark Lord of the Sith and that the Sith Lord now controls the Republic! So, Dooku tells them, "hey, I'll lead you against the corrupt Republic!" So, Palpatine's pulling the strings of the Separatists, but they don't know it--Darth Sidious is pulling the strings of the Republic and they don't know it! Now, Jango's a great bounty hunter... so tell me why he would use a Kamino Saberdart on Zam, who has been recognized as Amidala's attempted-assassin? It's because Palpatine and Dooku know that the time has come to "push the button," so to speak. Jango leaves this oh-so-convenient clue for Obi-Wan, which leads Obi-Wan to the Clone Army, which, the Kaminoans, claim has been requested BY THE JEDI! Obi-Wan reports this to Yoda and Mace, and then goes off to capture Jango, who leads him to Geonosis. Whether or not this was a part of the plan is debatable, but either way it works to Palpatine's advantage, because Palpatine and Dooku use Obi-Wan's capture to provoke the Republic into a galactic incident! Despite the fact that Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Amidala were going to be executed, it was the REPUBLIC that fired the first shots of the Clone Wars! Obi-Wan has seen the droid army, reports this to the Republic, and the threat of war convinces the senate to give Palpatine emergency powers! They allow Palpatine to become dictator! Palpatine calls for the use of the Clone Army and puts the Jedi in charge of it! The Clone Wars, he could say, were the fault of the Jedi! It was a Jedi who commissioned the clone army, a Jedi who formed the Separatist Movement, a Jedi who discovered the Clone Army ten years later, and it was thousands of Jedi who led the Clone Armies into battle! Maybe this is what allows Palpatine to wipe out the Jedi--maybe he'll say the Jedi manipulated the Republic into this war to do exactly what Palpatine is doing: take over the Republic and impose their theocracy on the galaxy. All of this, Palpatine has done without ever having his hand suspected, even when his apprentice, Dooku, TELLS the Jedi that the Sith Lord controls the Republic! They figure it was a lie, because Dark Lords of the Sith always lie! It's incredible! A lot of that is right except Jango leaving a clue on purpose wouldn't make sense. Remember, no one knew the origin on the dart except for Dax. I seriously doubt Palpatine would concern himself with such mintue details. The sepratist were going to attack the republic anyway, they were just countered ahead of schedule. Palpatine might try and sale the war as a jedi plot, however most of the senate wanted the clone army, and were only an attack away for approving them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I think it is a combined work of Anakin and Palpatine that finally does it for Mace Windu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corax Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Yes,That would be cool to watch..but palpatine would kick windus ass for sure! but i mean since in the other films with luke skywalker in it he dosn't do much "lightsabering" and maybe windu might have injured him in some way..or not.....i'm not sure at all.. Corax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyfreaker Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 It said something on TF.net that they were filming a scene where sidious was giving ol mace a dose of FORCE LIGHTNING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 Originally posted by Naphtali A lot of that is right except Jango leaving a clue on purpose wouldn't make sense. Remember, no one knew the origin on the dart except for Dax. I seriously doubt Palpatine would concern himself with such mintue details. The sepratist were going to attack the republic anyway, they were just countered ahead of schedule. Palpatine might try and sale the war as a jedi plot, however most of the senate wanted the clone army, and were only an attack away for approving them i agree. wasnt there a cut scene (or maybe it was just in the novelization of ep2) where Obi tried to scan the dart at the jedi archives and it came up inconclusive? the war wouldve started if the republic had stepped in at geonosis or not. the death of 2 jedi and a SENATOR would hardly be overlooked. the war wouldve begun. the reason that dooku/sidious didnt particularly mind is because they dont want a seperatist fation that is TOO strong. it has to lose in the end after all. so it kind of worked out in the favor of the sith but i have a hard time believing that it was all planned. Sidious is an opportunist, and so is dooku. dooku couldve killed anakin quite easily on geonosis (wouldntve taken much, one quick stab and then turn to face yoda) but, as always, his way was better. post geonosis everybody was drawn into the war. pre geonosis not even the trade federation was sure about joining, something to the effect of "im not signing your treaty until i have her head (padmes) on my desk". and the jedi "are keepers of the peace, not soldiers". but by using the geonosis situation effectively Dooku made everybody get stuck in the middle of the war. the simple fact of it from where im standing is that there were too many variables to plan anything out effectively, especially something as minor as a kaminoan dart. it makes much more sense that jango just happened to stock up on weapons that he knew would be difficult to track and easy to procure. i mean how could he know that Zam would fail in the first place? no, it couldnt have been planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggle Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Originally posted by Darth Talliusc i agree. wasnt there a cut scene (or maybe it was just in the novelization of ep2) where Obi tried to scan the dart at the jedi archives and it came up inconclusive? It was a cut scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 It will most likely be Anakin and/or Palpatine. I doubt Lucas will have a bunch of clonetroopers waste him. There is the speculation/rumor that Boba Fett might do it but I think Lucas or someone say Boba's part in the film is less time than his episode II part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamefls Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 his part in this film is most likely for a clone commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyfreaker Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Of course it is, i mean what, was a clone of jango wearing his armor? (hmm.. actually... never mind. impossible.) Anyway, Sidious or Boba should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamefls Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 the guy who plays boba is a clone commander i saw it in a picuture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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