Blue_Lightsaber Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Ok get a double sided saber. When you get into a duel wait till your opponent least expects a move. Then do a kata (really spinning fast move) and spin your mous around really fast. Not only will this hurt your opponent alot more than the old way, but also reduces your chances of being killed by a rollstab in your katas. Some may say this is cheap, but it's not cheating so I guess it's not all that bad. Not as bad as chatkilling or saber down killing at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JA_General Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 i know another with a single saber. start your duel.let your oponnent come to you .be sure you have the BLue stance. dont attack him but when he strikes his first move. dodge it .then attack him. then turn your stance into red then finish him. when you had striked with the blue stance i did that to a friend if you strike good he should have 50 damage. i killed my friend in 3 slashes 2 = blue stance 1 = red stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxie Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I think when the patch comes out alot of stuff like the katas and butterflies may be disabled. There's alot of good duelers out there who know how to balance their moves out, but way too many spammers around. I logged onto this one server and there's was like a million people doing katas and butterflies in the main arena, it looked like a damn dance floor in a techno club where everyone was dancing with glowsticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeto101 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 katas bein spammed??? I find they only get me killed 80% of the time. I mean, theyre mostly stationary, they make you stick out like a metallica fan at a cher concert ann they all can be countered with a roll stab. Butterflys on the otehr hand (at least staff flys) and friggin deadly. Tons o damage, moblie and only a little warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giddamon Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 The Noob Side is strong in this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigoR_MortiS Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 a little counter for your ULTIMATE move... DO a lunge (single saber-light stance move) at the very end of the kata, 'cos they stand still for a short but enough time which is all you need for a lunge or a backstab(with double saber) or a rolling-stab. IMHO lunge has a kind of a nAsty little bug, sometimes it's insta-kill against any special move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Giddamon The Noob Side is strong in this thread... It became strong when you posted here. Just kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Wookiee Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 In my opinion spinning your mouse "real fast" or upping your sensitivity and spinning your mouse in any move IS cheating. Cheating by playing the game in a way it was NOT ment to be played. The devs did not want you doing that move, and by doing it, you going against how the game was ment to be played. On the server I play we kick/ban anyone doing that anyway...... Blue_Lightsaber, You suck at JA if you use this, learn to play the game as it was ment to be played......your kind makes me sick... D_P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 hahahhah roflsdjfojlmao william! do i really need sarcasm tags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Pnut In my opinion spinning your mouse "real fast" or upping your sensitivity and spinning your mouse in any move IS cheating. Cheating by playing the game in a way it was NOT ment to be played. The devs did not want you doing that move, and by doing it, you going against how the game was ment to be played. On the server I play we kick/ban anyone doing that anyway...... Blue_Lightsaber, You suck at JA if you use this, learn to play the game as it was ment to be played......your kind makes me sick... D_P please stop inflating your e-ego by spewing crap like that. who are you to say how the game should and should not be played. changing your sensitivity is allowed and so is spinning your mouse. if you can't dodge the poor fellow who is now not only moving slowly, but moving slowly IN ONE SPOT then i suggest you take those jedi academy discs and take a hammer to them. people like you make me sick. you'll bitch about anything because if it isn't easy (well in this case its OVERLY easy) to counter then you cry "OMFG CHEAT0RZ OH NOEZ U LAMER U SUCK!!!#@@!11fiveseven" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 roflsdjfojlmao whoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giddamon Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Pnut In my opinion spinning your mouse "real fast" or upping your sensitivity and spinning your mouse in any move IS cheating. Cheating by playing the game in a way it was NOT ment to be played. The devs did not want you doing that move, and by doing it, you going against how the game was ment to be played. On the server I play we kick/ban anyone doing that anyway...... Blue_Lightsaber, You suck at JA if you use this, learn to play the game as it was ment to be played......your kind makes me sick... D_P ...and now it has became even stronger!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Giddamon ...and now it has became even stronger!! yeah no **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Wookiee Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 I never said I couldn't dodge it, hell I never said anything but that move is extreamly newb like, I also said that he should learn to play the game right. Who's right though? Me, thats right I am. Because guess what there's gonna be a patch. When they fix this problem he's going to suck at playing for about 2 weeks when he can't do his wonder move. Why not learn to play better now, seriously people learn one (cheap might I add, and you know it is) move, and spam it till Jesus comes back. Why? because a lot of newbs jump into the gaint swirly of death. It gives them a quick kill count for very little effort except spinning a mouse. I can kill the spinners/sensitivity people. I didn't say I couldn't I said they piss me off. They really do, because they take the lazy way out. Not because I can't kill them, or they are too uber. Because I work twice as hard as them, and I am better than them, however they can still rack in the kills I can with one move. I'll roll stab them till the sun comes up.....however....It does not mean i can't complain while they still do it. But ok, I'll be your lightning rod of hate while you make misconceptions about my JA playing abilities...... Also, Originally posted by Rumor people like you make me sick. you'll bitch about anything because if it isn't easy (well in this case its OVERLY easy) to counter then you cry "OMFG CHEAT0RZ OH NOEZ U LAMER U SUCK!!!#@@!11fiveseven" If you accualy know anything about me, I very rarely bitch at all, I'm quite anti-HONORZ and I don't care about chat killing or saber off killing. It's glitches in the system that are exploited that people us to be lazy that piss me off. What these people do is no better than duping items in an MMO, they found a hole in the system and use it..... D_P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden X Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Cool dude! Well, I'm not used to use the mouse to control lightsabers, only guns... BTW, cool avatar Toxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comm539 Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 rofl ghe thnx some excellent tips in this thread. Get teh uber duel saber and when your opponent least expects it, spam his @ss like a rat up a pipe. Then scream "I OWNEZ J00 I OWNEZ J00!!11" This is one bad@ss 1337, skillfull move man, so just watchout. [/sarcasm] Oh btw, binding push and pull to anything other than the F1 and F2 keys is cheating in my books. Its lame and pathetic and its not the default way the game should be played.[/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Shaft Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Lol Pnut, if you can't handle a bunch of people using their mouse to spin around.... then I don't know what to tell you. Oh wait, that's right, you said you could, so there's no problem, right? I guess you can stop talking about noobs and kicking people out of servers and just take your easy kills. Rather than being part of the problem, aka immature person that just kicks people out of games because 't3hy d0n't pl4y r1ght!11111oneoneseven", how about you educate them with the skills you claim to have, and just easily dispatch people who do a move that hardly provides and benefit if the person knows that he's doing. I mean, since you did claim to be good enough to handle it. This way, instead of everyone leaving your server with a foul taste in their mouth, they'll be able to continue playing and LEARN the 'right way to play' according to you. But no, you had to talk about n00bs, kicking people, and claiming that something like mouse sensitivity is cheating. uh oh, I play with sensitivity on full... i must be a cheat4r!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro The Hutt Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 *snicker* That and there's no sure fire "easy way" to win a duel. Someone more than likely knows a nice countermeasure to it, or at least a measure that makes him safe from damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Pnut I never said I couldn't dodge it, hell I never said anything but that move is extreamly newb like, I also said that he should learn to play the game right. Who's right though? Me, thats right I am. Because guess what there's gonna be a patch. When they fix this problem he's going to suck at playing for about 2 weeks when he can't do his wonder move. Why not learn to play better now, seriously people learn one (cheap might I add, and you know it is) move, and spam it till Jesus comes back. Why? because a lot of newbs jump into the gaint swirly of death. It gives them a quick kill count for very little effort except spinning a mouse. I can kill the spinners/sensitivity people. I didn't say I couldn't I said they piss me off. They really do, because they take the lazy way out. Not because I can't kill them, or they are too uber. Because I work twice as hard as them, and I am better than them, however they can still rack in the kills I can with one move. I'll roll stab them till the sun comes up.....however....It does not mean i can't complain while they still do it. But ok, I'll be your lightning rod of hate while you make misconceptions about my JA playing abilities...... D_P Oh, all-knowing great one! how do you know such things? Are you Kenn Hoekstra in disguise? No? Then STFU. just because you think its not the correct way to play doesn't give you the right to make everyone conform to your style of play. so what if he takes the easy way out? thats like bitching at someone who uses lightning or drain all the time. Stick to spewing propagandist bull**** somewhere else like jedi-outcast.com. they are into crap like that. go home troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro The Hutt Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Ofcourse, a clever tech can keep him/herself, and the team going for a while if he/she plays his/her cards well. (using things like protection and team heal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 (To thread starter) the same could be said of ANY kata move. I have done the same with saber barrier (duals), all three single katas, etc. However, this NOT a foolproof strategy (even in a sabers only duel) because the kata has to HIT in the first place. If they avoid it, all your spinning won't do any good and may in fact disorient you to your enemy's position when they counter attack right when the move ends. This IS useful however on Siege Korriban (especially) when destroying objects on the Lightside, since you can get more damage in with a kata on those destructable gates and things before you get nuked by the demolitionists. And if people are kata spamming, I'm guessing you're playing on a server with mana regen jacked up (ie: less than the default 200). Because with regular mana regen, you can do a kata TWICE then you're out of mana. You need 50 mana points to do a kata, 25 to do other special moves (lunge, DFA, twirls, rolling stab, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Whoa, sorry for the multi-posts (deleted now). Looks like you were responding to my initial post Pedro. Understood. My point is no move is unstoppable. I guess the point of the thread starter was that "spamming" certain moves almost guarentees you kills against "noobs." Well who cares? They're easy to kill because they're "noobs" (inexperienced players) right? They're still learning. Just because I can nail newbies with my BlasTech pistol and win the game doesn't mean the game is flawed and needs a radical gameplay adjustment patch. Oh boy I can spin with my kata, so what? Now granted, Raven took out the spinning/pivoting for moves like the DFA and backstab in JK2, but that is because they weren't intended as spinning moves. Notice how in JA they kept those non-spinning moves but ADDED dedicated spinning moves (the katas) becuase they KNEW that they fit into gameplay, just that the moves people were using to spin with before were never intended to be that way in MP. So since a Kata already spings you 360 degrees or more, turning is no problem. If you start a kata you're setting yourself up as an EASY target that can be easily avoided (and in a guns game you'll be dead in about a second as they switch to Merr Sonn, Repeater, thermal detonators etc and blast your spinning a$$ to kingdom come) and countered if you know how. For example the Saber Barrier, potentially one of the most powerful saber moves ever (letting you theoretically kill 4 players at once) is also one of the easiest to counter (push, crouch under, roll under, lightning, wait until it's almost over then attack, slap sabers away with duals or Strong stance single, Kata/Lunge/DFA at the right moment, etc). Arguing that "killing noobs is easy" is a silly argument because that will never change. Or are you arguing that the game is "noob friendly"? (another tired cliche argument on these boards with not a lot of substance behind it) These moves are easy to do, but also easy to counter, so you just have to learn new strategies and keep figuring out new counter measures to counter their counter measures, etc. that's how it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Lightsaber Posted October 28, 2003 Author Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Pnut In my opinion spinning your mouse "real fast" or upping your sensitivity and spinning your mouse in any move IS cheating. Cheating by playing the game in a way it was NOT ment to be played. The devs did not want you doing that move, and by doing it, you going against how the game was ment to be played. On the server I play we kick/ban anyone doing that anyway...... Blue_Lightsaber, You suck at JA if you use this, learn to play the game as it was ment to be played......your kind makes me sick... D_P Wow and I suppose Mr. Honor here is so much better than me at JA. Hey kiddo, CHEATING is when you umm how should I say this? Uhh....do stuff like hack the game to get godmode or noclip. Yeah it's cheap, it does a ton of damage more than it should, but get over it. It is easily dodged and its not hard to counter at all (rollstab isn't the only way). Who cares what the devs wanted me to play JA like? I bought it, I'll play as I wanna play, not how the devs wanted me to play. Hey, I wanted the devs to deliver me a nonbuggy product. Did I get what I wanted? No. Point is, don't go crying about my so-called lack of honor until you actually play me. I don't go around telling people they suck at a game because they use a move that was put into the game BY THE DEVS. It's easily dodged and countered. If you can't counter or dodge this, YOU are the one who sucks at JA sir, not me. P.S. I win duels all the time without this. So I don't NEED it. Thank you, and have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaMana Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Why can't you just turn of the console on the servers? If you could, It would be ALOT smarter":p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor yeah no **** Yeah, and I think the SPAM in this thread out distances the noobness. Also, just wanted to add.... WITH STRONG, YOU CAN KNOCK THE LIVING $H!T OUT OF "KATA SPAMMERS"! Ahem. As I said, you can beat anyone with strong if you actually know how to use it. I maybe use a kata once in a single duel, but it just leaves me open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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