Shivermetimbers Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 I never knew that everyone was considered sinners in Christianity Hmm. Well that gets rid of most anything about Christianity that pissed me off. In that case, gays are being treated exactly equal, just for a different reason. Sounds ok to me. Happiness! I have been made more tolerant.
Ray Jones Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 Originally posted by Alia .. while we do believe homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't mean that we treat them any differently from any sinner (i.e. anyone.) .. no offense.. but.. lol. but. "your" opinion. (why do i wonder that you are supporting this? .. aaahhh!! I HAVE NO IDEA!) .. me personnally i got many offers from gay guys and i am not bothered by that.. once there was this guy asking me (on the toilet in some club while i was standing in front of the bowl) if i would .. "like it to do some.. :naughty:" .. i just replied "err.. WHAT? NO.. FORGET IT!" .. but he kept on and on.. until he said "maybe i can bl.w your d.ck if i give you some .. coke .. ?" .. oh.. man.. that was hard .. the first thing i thought was "TAKE THE COKE AND KNOCK HIM OUT, RUN AWAY OR SOMETHING .. DO IT!!!" but nah.. i am not so violent.. so .. i sticked to my usual anwer [CENSORED] .. i dont know what i would have done if a girl would have asked me this .. i mean.. i have a girlfriend.. my point is .. i say no to guys like i say no to girls. thats what those anti-gays forget: somehow gay guys are just some really ugly girls asking "can i do you..?" (METAPHORIC) :D tk: WHITE POWER GANG?? hehehe.. i am sure they would wonder about those two iraqi brothers i know.. they wear white power t-shirts regulary .. .. err.. i am not kidding .. they are all like "sieg heil" n stuff .. thats weird somehow. ASIAN GIRL..?? .. with pantees?????????? mmmm..
DrMcCoy Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 Originally posted by RayJones me personnally i got many offers from gay guys and i am not bothered by that.. i never got an offer from a gay... and i never got an offer from a girl... ... well, i never got an offer from anyone... *looksinamirror* oh... never mind...
Ray Jones Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 wait until you get offers from gay girls.. then things will turn better ..!!
Philocleon Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 It's a good thing Mek isn't here. Otherwise it'd turn into one big debate with Mek spewing bible quotes about how homosexuality is wrong and everyone telling him to shut up.
Yufster Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 Hmm. Do you suppose Mick Collins went to heaven?
Shivermetimbers Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 Where in the world did that come from?
Jared Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 heh....well I see what this thread turned into...^^ about the christian thing...I used to be one myself....so I understand perfectly that everyone is considered a sinner and that homosexuality is a sin...but I'm over it. To each his own. Originally posted by RayJones tk: ASIAN GIRL..?? .. with pantees?????????? mmmm.. *stares at you with crazed look in eyes*
Gabez Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 Originally posted by Alia I'm a Christian. Before any of you launch into huge speeches about what pompous, narrow-minded assholes my brethren and I are, I wish you to consider that, while we do believe homosexuality is a sin, it doesn't mean that we treat them any differently from any sinner (i.e. anyone.) Ah yes, but The Bible also says that people who eat fish are sinners. As crazy as this may sound, I would take The Gospel as Gospel. ;D In fact I defy you to find one valid arguement against homosexuality, for in my knowledge they've all been disgarded as philisophical nonsense. At the end of the day it comes down to person prefference, and, well, racism.
Alia Posted November 21, 2003 Posted November 21, 2003 There are some very particular references to this in Paul's letters. Defy me all you want, but reply like that in the Senate Chambers, where there are hopefully debates enough of that kind to suit you. I have no wish for an argument. EDIT: Yeah, unless the fish-eaters were God, I supposed they'd be sinners.
Ray Jones Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Originally posted by Alia Defy me all you want, but reply like that in the Senate Chambers, where there are hopefully debates enough of that kind to suit you. I have no wish for an argument. heeeeeyyy.. .. you have your point of view.. i have mine. .. who cares.. ? you are a christian and me not.. that does changes much about the fact for us being humans after all .. .. and.. i mean YOU got that katana.. *points* who would argue then? a man addicted to pantees with a ducked chicken as heraldic animal?? ..tse.. really .. also you didnt said you dont like them you just said they are sinners.. (from your point of view.) and i can assure you there are gay "sinners" (there may be some things you call a sin that i call behave like a BAD BAAD MONKEY *WHACK* .. ) and there are even gays that i dont like personally.. but there are other persons i dont like too.. hey and perhabs you cannot imagine that .. but.. there are even persons who dont like me.. MEEE!! .. tsk .. so... *shrugs* .. cookies and icecold milk? tk: *nods*
Ernil Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 It's a good thing Mek isn't here. Otherwise it'd turn into one big debate with Mek spewing bible quotes about how homosexuality is wrong
SamNMax Posted November 22, 2003 Author Posted November 22, 2003 I belive in some of the stuff the bilble says. But I think a lot of it is very... I don't know how to put it. I belive that the bible is not to run your life. I belive that it just helps you what to do in life. Be a good nieghbor, and all that. It's not met to run your life.
Kjølen Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Gays? Gays are the worst thing to happen to the race of humans. ... Actually, no, gay people are teh AWESOME XD. I'm kidding. Gay people can be very nice people. I think that bashers that think gays will hit on them should wonder if they are thinking too highly of themselves. Its no different then them thinking every girl will want to go out with them. Now I'm not too sure about how I, as a Christian, should think of homosexuals, but I think they're normal, and it's not a sin. Just the ACT of homosexuality is, I'm taught. Still, as Alia pointed out, We're all sinners. ... Except me. I'm perfect. I'm superior.
SamNMax Posted November 22, 2003 Author Posted November 22, 2003 Religion should have nothing to do with this. The act of homosexuality being a sin is just stupid, and I not afraid to say it.
Gabez Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 People who think that Christianity is absolutist are wrong, wrong, wrong! Also where are these senate chambers? ¬ On Edit Found it (http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=445). Also I'm not saying that I can't think of an argument against homosexuals, but that it's actually impossible.
Alia Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 We're all entitled to our opinions. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop bashing mine.
Ernil Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Though I wont stop others from practicing homosexuality, I personally, and the religion I love so much both believe it. That's as basic as I can get with my opinions.
SamNMax Posted November 22, 2003 Author Posted November 22, 2003 Originally posted by Alia We're all entitled to our opinions. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop bashing mine. Who? Me? If so, I'm not bashing your opinions. I'm just sharing mine.
Ernil Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Religion should have nothing to do with this. The act of homosexuality being a sin is just stupid
SamNMax Posted November 22, 2003 Author Posted November 22, 2003 I'm not rying to prove anything here, pal. I don't care what anybody belives in. Why should I? Just because someone belives in something different than I belive, dosen't mean that I'm going to bash you. That's just stupid.
scabb Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 I'm not sure what my opinion is on this subject. On the one hand, Ian McKellen is awesome. Then again, there's also the irritating Graham Norton. Tough choice.
Joshi Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 Originally posted by scabb I'm not sure what my opinion is on this subject. On the one hand, Ian McKellen is awesome. Then again, there's also the irritating Graham Norton. Tough choice. And then there's also Tom Cruise, Collin Ferral and Brad Pitt, whichc just goes to show you that it doesn't matter what your sexual preferance, being an arse hole is in the blood (AB+, Boocheeya!). Oh, and Alia, not contributing in this topic does not make you against us, but from reading what you have to say, I understand why you had to say it. In my opinion, I don't give a rats arse what sexual preferance you are (******** ** *** ********, ******** *******'* ** **** ** *** *****'*, **** **** ***** ******edited by me, I had to say it, but you guys just can't read it unless your 18 and over, in which case you'll guess it.) you're still a person (with the exception of Will Young). But you are still entitled to think that it's wrong if you want. it may just be how you were brought up that has given you these strong feelings, but in my opinion, if you feel strongly about something, stick with it.
Ernil Posted November 22, 2003 Posted November 22, 2003 I'm not rying to prove anything here, pal. I don't care what anybody belives in. Why should I? Just because someone belives in something different than I belive, dosen't mean that I'm going to bash you. That's just stupid. Agreed. This is a friendly smiley.
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