Michael Plant Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 If: Obi-Wan (EP1) Obi-Wan (EP2/3) Obi-Wan (EP4) and Qui-Gon fought each other who do you think would win? or ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 probably kenobi. IMO:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 I say theyre equaly matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handorin Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 no way guys, qui-gon is way better. Ben is way too slow 4 qui-gon i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Ben, hands down... Ben survived Darth Maul... and Dooku(with the help of Anakin and Yoda howeever) Well... if Ben fought like he did against maul at least... he was kinda wimpy in episode 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handorin Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 see, Qui-gon couldve kill maul. He had the oppertunity when he fell, but he didnt take it. If he didnt die Anaken might of not been able to be a Jedi, therefore, giving Ben less of a chance on Dooku, and Anaken wouldnt be able to bring balence to the force if he went to the good side. You just gotta think about those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 vader couldn't kill old ben,( only when ben sacraficed himself did vader kill him), so i dont think jinn could've beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksideDjembe Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Obi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 .... if we are talking old ben??? i think its a close call.. my money would still be on Ben tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sosus Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 qui-gon would definetly beat his padawan. Qui-gon jinn is awesome. If you read "Cloak of Deception" by James Luceno, you will have a little more respect for this Master Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_hill987 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 they wouldn't kill each other, because a jedi fights diffensively. one of them would have to attack and that just woudn't happen. however Obi wan would win if it came down to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Qui-Gon all the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 lets look at the track record:  Qui-gon: fought Darth Maul - lost.  Obi-wan: fought Darth Maul - won Fought Darth Tyranus - lost Anakin Skywalker - i'll assume he won Darth Vader - retired  Quigon has lost all his matches, Obi-wan has won 2 - against all powerful sith lords, lost 1 and we'll call the EpIV fight a draw.  From previous form it would seem Obi-wan has the edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by Codja X lets look at the track record:  Qui-gon: fought Darth Maul - lost.  Obi-wan: fought Darth Maul - won Fought Darth Tyranus - lost Anakin Skywalker - i'll assume he won Darth Vader - retired  Quigon has lost all his matches, Obi-wan has won 2 - against all powerful sith lords, lost 1 and we'll call the EpIV fight a draw.  From previous form it would seem Obi-wan has the edge uhmm you are now just generalising movie facts. i heard in books that qui gon rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Originally posted by Codja X lets look at the track record:  Qui-gon: fought Darth Maul - lost.  Obi-wan: fought Darth Maul - won Fought Darth Tyranus - lost Anakin Skywalker - i'll assume he won Darth Vader - retired  Quigon has lost all his matches, Obi-wan has won 2 - against all powerful sith lords, lost 1 and we'll call the EpIV fight a draw.  From previous form it would seem Obi-wan has the edge   anakin is suppose to be the most powerful jedi ever... but obi-wan beats anakin in ep III... so does that mean obi-wan is the most powerful? no, because it doesn't work that way.  why does obi-wan beat anakin then? well i think the reason is because anakin has just turned to the darkside... he is fuelled by hate and is quite simply out of control. obi-wan however is very good at controlling his emotions... after qui-gon died you could see obi-wan was very angry... but he could control the anger and turn it into determination to defeat maul.  who would win if qui-gon fought obi-wan?  well it depends... why are they fighting? what emotions are involved?  duels aren't decided on lightsaber skill alone... but if they were i would say obi-wan, he has a fast and aggressive style as apposed to qui-gon who had an slow but elegant style. it would be similar to lukes duel with vader in ROTJ, the sheer ferocity of luke's attacks were too much for vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I know where you're coming from, but i'm just going on what i've seen (or are about to see). I don't really know that much about the prequel novels so I can't comment on what goes on outside the films. Â No matter about the debate, Obi-wan is still a bad-ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 i also think obi beats ani b/c kenobi can control his grief of losing his best friend and padawon to the dark side and doesn't leave himself open to mental mistakes like ani does. therefor, ani gets his ass kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Unless Obi-Wan cheats? Â "Anakin! Look! A flying Gundark (or whatever)!" [Nudge], into lava he falls:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dark Jedi Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 id say obi would win because qui-gon couldnt beat darth maul and obi did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johch Ai'oki Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 Qui-Gon was holding back the obvious temptation to the Dark Side of the force. If Qui-Gon showed a little more anger and fierceness, I bet he would have splitted Maul's hilt in half first at the very least and probably kill him off. But since this didn't happen to obvious thematical noting George wanted in his big movie (Episode 1 is 1/6 of the SW "movie"). Obi-Wan was fast and furious after Maul stabbed Qui-Gon, no pun on the movie I hadn't seen intended. Maul tricked Obi-Wan, who was temporarily blinded by anger, into having his back face the shaft so Maul can use the force to push him into it. If he hadn't been a show-off in the first place, and had not forgotten about pushing Qui-Gon's saber into the shaft too, the two Jedi would have died. In Episode 4, the way Vader and Obi-Wan "Old Ben" Kenobi fought had been much slower than even Qui-Gon's style of swordsmanship. Just look at him! He's obviously been out of practice for quite a while. I believe while Lucas was making Episode 1, he said along the lines of, "I was looking for a type of swordfighting that was reminicant of what we've seen in the movies, but a more energized version of it. Because we've never actually seen real Jedi at work, we've seen old men and a crippled half-droid half-man and a young boy that learned from these people..." Â If you put Qui-Gon and an aged Obi-Wan in a battle, simply by how they had fought before, then I'm forced to take an unpopular opinion by saying hands down, Qui-Gon would win. This would especially be true if he didn't hold back, and I know Qui-Gon could never bear to kill any of his apprentices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggle Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 llook at the track record: Qui-gon: fought Darth Maul - lost.  Obi-wan: fought Darth Maul - won  Simple as! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johch Ai'oki Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 It's not as simple as you like for it to be. I told you: Darth Maul was being a show-off. If he was serious about his duties as a Sith Lord he would have killed Obi-Wan too. He didn't. He forgot about Qui-Gon's lightsaber. Qui-Gon was holding back on his emotions. Obi-Wan didn't, that's what nearly got him killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggle Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Ok i suppose darth mauls sloppiness did cause his own death im still backing Obi-Wan though he was the second last jedi in the end so he must have done something right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johch Ai'oki Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Any facts to back that up, Jabba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 i think he means that he was 1 of 2 jedi to survive the purge so he must have skills, such as kicking ani's ass and collecting himself and using wit to kill maul. he was just outmatched w/dooku cus dooku used a saber style that the jedi had not seen or used for hundreds of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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