Vader's_Punishe Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 I think Darktroopers on these maps would ruin for me because we know how these two battles were fought. No where in these two battles were there imperial troops shooting themselves in the air for super jumps. I suggest one of two things for these two maps. 1. Give the Darktrooper something on these maps to replace jumpack. It can range from hybrid guns such as a half sniper/half assualt or half anti-tank/half assualt gun, but each half is not as good as the real thing. Give them a stationary gun with heavy fire power such as an e-web cannon but must be set up to use. The point is to give them something that would offset the loss of the jumpack. 2. Give them another specail unit on these levels. I don't mind Darktroopers on other levels because they are theoretic battles in which case having Darktroopers could enhance the battles. The game is closing in on release, and everything they have in the game is fixed therefore Darktroopers will probaly be on Endor and Hoth with their full attire, but if they know this will not be popular decision with the Star Wars fans then maybe they will try and issue a little "fix" before release.
Alegis Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 Now you mention it, a darktrooper on endor doesn't sound right at all...jumping things...should be all ground battle (no ships at all either)
joesdomain Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 I had always been against darktroopers in the game altogether. It made me mad they took out the Imperial Officer.
Lt. Havoc Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 I too am anti-dark trooper. At least for the time being, it would be fine in an expansion or update but there is plenty of other characters/classes which would better fit.
TK-8252 Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 I'm anti-Dark Trooper as well. I mean, come on devs, you said that this game will be playing the movies as a grunt in the great battles. This is supposed to be the movies, not EU...
yaebginn Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 I was originally against the darktrooper/jetpack trooper but now its like, eh it doesnt matter. It'll be fun. dont think of it as, 'it wasnt in the movies' think of it as, 'man, its gonna be fun to fly over those other guys' think of the fun factor.
Ice Demon44 Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Who cares? There were no Rocket launchers is Star Wars either. It is just a class in the game. Replacing it just because it isn't in the movies is absurd.
TK-8252 Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Originally posted by Ice Demon44 Who cares? So far, six people in this thread alone.
Vader's_Punishe Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Everyone, this is not about being anti-Darktrooper. This is about Darktoopers comprimising the authenticy of the battles that occured on Hoth and Endor. Yaebginn, I think the Darktrooper may be fun on other levels, and I'm not against, exactly, but on these two levels they will end up taking the fun away from me. It would bother me on these levels to see some yahoo jumping around like Mario. It almost changes the fight completly. In the Endor fight, everyone should be pretty much grounded, but instead you will have darktroopers jumping up and down on the shield generator. You will probaly have to watch your y-axis more than you should have to as a rebel because of this threat. And in the screenshots of Hoth there is a broken wall. I can just see Darktroopers jumping over it before it is broken. I fear the smacktard bunny-hopping 20ft into the air running right by everyone ruining my whole mind state that I am in while fighting a battle on Hoth and Endor.
Ice Demon44 Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Originally posted by TK-8252 So far, six people in this thread alone. ahh... Just don't allow it on a server. Anyway on single player i doubt the bots will take dark trooper
yaebginn Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Originally posted by Vader's_Punishe It would bother me on these levels to see some yahoo jumping around like Mario. Awesome analogie. Beautiful. But now that I read ur post, u r corrrect. It would give them an unfair advantage. and ruin the star wars feel. hmm. Lets try to see the silver lining. Um, there is none! Darnit. some tard newbie is gonna be leaping on top of an atst trying to pretend he's some sort of superman. MAN! I can see it now. I'm having a good time, reinacting the battle of endor. I'm a rebel trooper, sneaking through the woods, everyone's far away,. I'm gonna make it. Then some dumb newbie leaps from 50ft away and blows me away. man. hopefully, they will be terrible in other areas. maybe they'll be slow, or have a weak gun.
Ice Demon44 Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Won't we all be new to the game... Handheld rockets dont feel like Star Wars either ,but it is still part of the game. Flying won't give you an advantage over anything, it will be like "skeet shooting" for the other team... PULL
Syzerian Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 the dark trooper is the only class I am annoyed with. If they are given any sort of explosive weapon they will be just as bad as jedi, they will just jump, aim down and anything near them is gone. Not to mention the fact thats its going to be the biggest noob magnet ever It will probably be almost useless on Hoth though
joesdomain Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 When I first saw the Imperial Officer early in the development phases as a choice and saw two screenshots of it. I was so happy! Being a Imperial Officer was a dream of mine in a star wars video game. Shame, they took it away for robot stormtrooper with a jetpack!
Dragonball Fan Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 I rather like the Darktrooper idea. It's most likely though that they won't be able to jump up all that high anyway, and not be able to shoot down while jumping. The Darktrooper is my favorite EU Imperial troop; so i'm glad that they put it in there.
ZinC°hda Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Personally I dont like anything which didn't come from Episodes 4, 5 + 6. All the new stuff sucks including the new films. They could of made a game based purely on the original films and it would of been a great hit.
Doomie Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 It's stupid of them to replace the Imp officer. Every army has officers, but the Dark troopers were destroyed after, what, like two battles they were in? Besides, putting EU vehicles in the movie battles would be worse enough, but EU units...
Vader's_Punishe Posted August 7, 2004 Author Posted August 7, 2004 Originally posted by Ice Demon44 Won't we all be new to the game... Handheld rockets dont feel like Star Wars either ,but it is still part of the game. Flying won't give you an advantage over anything, it will be like "skeet shooting" for the other team... PULL Rockets are different; assumming that they won't be too hot against infantry. They will be essentail to gameplay by being the only ones who can effectively take out many of the game's vehicles. If there is no way to take out heavy armor, it will become like BFV and their helicopters. Only the few people in the armor would be having fun while the rest of the server would get run over. It will be impairative for there to be a way to take out vehicles. It is a necessary evil. Its neccessity outweighs the authenticy. Now if the rocket is good against infantry, and there is an all-out rocket war then the whole game will have a problem , and yes it most defiantly won't fell like Star Wars, and it will also be a problem.
Erik Andrew Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 I think it's stupid to have the Dark Troopers in the game, they should at least have made it so only a few players on each battle could select Dark Trooper.
The Air Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 The dark trooper shouldent be included. Its really going to mess up everything. the wookie too, i mean how many wookies work for the rebelion? the dark trooper is the only class I am annoyed with. If they are given any sort of explosive weapon they will be just as bad as jedi, they will just jump, aim down and anything near them is gone. Not to mention the fact thats its going to be the biggest noob magnet ever Syzerian is right about that and of u other guys right too. Bring back the officer and the bothan!!!
Doomie Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Wookiees all join the rebellion, because the Empire uses them as slaves and the rebellion is against the Empire. Some wookiees don't care and become neutral, but most join the rebellion, really.
The Air Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Oh. thanks i didnt know that. I still like the spy more though. Like my new avatar?
JamesNI Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 I really really really don't care. Don't like them, KILL THEMMMMMMMM!!! Its still Star Wars, its still a FPS, Im diggin' it.
Alegis Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn Awesome analogie. Beautiful. But now that I read ur post, u r corrrect. It would give them an unfair advantage. and ruin the star wars feel. hmm. Lets try to see the silver lining. Um, there is none! Darnit. some tard newbie is gonna be leaping on top of an atst trying to pretend he's some sort of superman. MAN! I can see it now. I'm having a good time, reinacting the battle of endor. I'm a rebel trooper, sneaking through the woods, everyone's far away,. I'm gonna make it. Then some dumb newbie leaps from 50ft away and blows me away. man. hopefully, they will be terrible in other areas. maybe they'll be slow, or have a weak gun. Complaining you'd get killed by others doesn't sound very professional either. If a noob would kill you like that, you're one of them as well
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