Aleggy Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 however i agree vader would win but for different reasons
sheedee Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Vader would surely win, I mean, what kind of a sith lord gets captured by a group of three jedi. Padawans no less Yeah I know he got betrayed, but still, Bastila said he would not win even if he wasnt.
RedHawke Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 Originally posted by Aleggy in eps3 obi wan beats anikin in a lightsaber duel yet in eps4 vader (who we all know is anikin) beats obi wan Actually Aleggy with the Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan on the Death Star duel, Obi-Wan clearly could have held off Vader all day, he was using controlled defensive only moves, if Obi-Wan had truely wanted to he could have really fought Vader, and in that duel Obi-Wan's defensive fighting style threw Vader off, that is why Vader says "Your powers are weak old man" because that is exactly what Obi-Wan wanted Vader to believe. Obi-Wan clearly lets Vader win that duel so that the Millenium Falcon and the last hope for the Jedi could survive to fight another day. Just my, slightly off-topic, 2 cents.
stingerhs Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 Originally posted by RedHawke Actually Aleggy with the Darth Vader vs. Obi-Wan on the Death Star duel, Obi-Wan clearly could have held off Vader all day, he was using controlled defensive only moves, if Obi-Wan had truely wanted to he could have really fought Vader, and in that duel Obi-Wan's defensive fighting style threw Vader off, that is why Vader says "Your powers are weak old man" because that is exactly what Obi-Wan wanted Vader to believe. Obi-Wan clearly lets Vader win that duel so that the Millenium Falcon and the last hope for the Jedi could survive to fight another day. Just my, slightly off-topic, 2 cents. hmm, another topic for a new thread: what would have happened if obi-wan had decided to duke it out with vader till somebody died???
DarthBuzzard Posted September 26, 2004 Author Posted September 26, 2004 Vader would surely win, I mean, what kind of a sith lord gets captured by a group of three jedi. Padawans no less Yeah I know he got betrayed, but still, Bastila said he would not win even if he wasnt. Yep. Let's see you survive your bridge being fired on by half the sith fleet! And just because Bastila says "You cannot win, Revan", dosent mean he can't win. Have you ever noticed how each side is like, "you can't win, <insert name here>?" And Bastila is at Level 3 in the game when you meet her, and if I stand off to the side during the Bastila vs. Brejik duel, she gets her ass whuped my a street gang leader . (Thank Goodness she has unlimited health instead of her standard 30 or whatever) For me, that screams that she'd get her ass whuped during a duel with a SITH LORD. Pfft. Revan would win. hands down IMO. Now Revan vs. Luke or Yoda or palpy is quite another story, but if you read the title it says, "REVAN VS. VADER" not palpy or luke. kthx~
RedHawke Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Ok I'll get on the bandwagon and say Revan would whoop Vaders behind... My rationale could be summed up with this quote... "I find Vaders lack of Force Lightning disturbing"
DarthBuzzard Posted September 27, 2004 Author Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by RedHawke "I find Vaders lack of Force Lightning disturbing" LOL RedHawke! I would be a pro-vader if he could do more things with the Force than choke and move stuff...although insta-kill "DC100" choke is cool
Prime Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by stingerhs what would have happened if obi-wan had decided to duke it out with vader till somebody died??? Same result.
stingerhs Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by RedHawke Ok I'll get on the bandwagon and say Revan would whoop Vaders behind... My rationale could be summed up with this quote... "I find Vaders lack of Force Lightning disturbing" this i not a spoiler, but i think any conclusion along those lines should wait for ep III. come on, do you really think that the only force power that vader uses is choke, push, pull, and resist energy??? me thinks that lucas may show off some of vader's other powers in the third movie. just my 2 cents...
TheOutrider Posted September 27, 2004 Posted September 27, 2004 Actually I think Vader could kill Revan if he played dirty like knocking him off a high place or something like that but if it was just a normal duel in a normal place Revan would totally knock the crud out of Vader no doubt about it
RedHawke Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by stingerhs this i not a spoiler, but i think any conclusion along those lines should wait for ep III. come on, do you really think that the only force power that vader uses is choke, push, pull, and resist energy??? me thinks that lucas may show off some of vader's other powers in the third movie. just my 2 cents... I was joking when I typed that stingerhs.
stingerhs Posted September 28, 2004 Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by RedHawke I was joking when I typed that stingerhs. [sarcasm]and i was expressing a point. so :p :p and no, it wasn't exactly aimed at you. so :p :p [/sarcasm]
bneezy Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 How how would the most powerful Jedi of all time rank? 1. Yoda ("When my age you reach, understand me you still will not.") 2. Luke Skywalker 3. Darth Vader (Well, he did kill Sidious.) 4. Darth Sidious? 5. ? What about Obi? Well, technically he killed him. According to the Expanded Universe, Sidious used some ancient Sith magic crap to transfer his essence to a clone body. He had an entire "warehouse" of clone bodies for situations such as this. Eventually, Luke became his apprentice to save someone, but then killed him. I think.
RedHawke Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 Originally posted by bneezy According to the Expanded Universe, Sidious used some ancient Sith magic crap to transfer his essence to a clone body. He had an entire "warehouse" of clone bodies for situations such as this. According to WEG PnP D6 Star Wars RPG, the power you are referring to is Transfer Life or Transfer Life Force, it isn't really a Sith magic instead it is simply that you are so attuned to the force that if your physical body is utterly destroyed you have a chance and the will to save your essence and either possess a vessel or move into a prepared vessel. The cannon refrence to this power is when Luke is talking with the dying Yoda on Dagobah and Luke says "Master Yoda you can't die" then Yoda replies "Strong in the force I am, but not that strong" this implies strongly that he knows of that power. Originally posted by bneezy Eventually, Luke became his apprentice to save someone, but then killed him. I think. If I recall correctly, it has been a while since I read the comic; Luke became the Clone Emperor Palapatine's apprentice for a time, Luke was saved by Leia who also had some powerful Force Nexus artifact, and she and Luke distracted Palapatine when he was using the power Create Force Storm and it backfired and consumed Palapatine and his flagship the Super Star Destroyer Eclipse. Luke and Leia make a miraculous escape, of course.
Cyborgninja Posted November 8, 2004 Posted November 8, 2004 Originally posted by Prime Vader pwns all. All other discussion is pointless. no u have it mixed around revan pawns all
RedHawke Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 Originally posted by jackofblades no u have it mixed around revan pawns all We should wait until Episode III is out to make this judgement... "Lord Vader" "Yes, Master" "Rise" I think Aniken / Vader just might surprise us all.
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 Originally posted by jackofblades revan pawns all Why? To pay the bills? Sorry, I couldn't help it.
FiEND_138 Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 ^^ Bwahahahahahahahhahaha!!!! Thats great!!!!1
RedHawke Posted November 9, 2004 Posted November 9, 2004 ^^^^ RLMAO!!! Originally posted by jackofblades revan pawns all I didn't catch that the first time... thats too funny...
stingerhs Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 Originally posted by jackofblades revan pawns all Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin Why? To pay the bills? *tries not to burst out laughing in the library* ... ... ... *failure* *calms enough to notice everyone staring at him, and makes an exit*
Cyborgninja Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin Why? To pay the bills? Sorry, I couldn't help it. I don't get it:confused:
stingerhs Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 ^^^^ what do you think a pawn shop is actually for?? a fight club??? think about it really hard, or just use a dictionary.
Darkside_tanro Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 Vader was a poondangle. Anakin PWNZ. Anakin was stronger than vader ever was. I think falling in a volcano kinda has a effect on you.
Aleggy Posted November 10, 2004 Posted November 10, 2004 not wanting to be picky but this a revan vs vader thread not vader vs anikin especially since anikin is vader, and how do you make anikin stronger eps 2 he fails to kill dooku twice he butchers a clan of sand people but as he is a 'jedi' they dont really have much of a defence, in eps 3 he looses to obiwan and the only jedi he kills to my knowledge is mace windu and a batch of jedi children in eps 4 a new hope the only reason he manages to kill obiwan is because obiwan lets him so whats the difference as to revan vs vader, revan pwns all simple lol
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