Hallucination Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku what if these lyrics were true "everything you know is wrong black is white up is down and short is long and everything you thought was so important doesn't really matter because everthing you know is wrong"? Is that a question or your paradox collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 question? and the lyrics are from everything you know is wrong:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 What if this forum is one mass hallucination, where do you think we really are right now, what are we actually doing, who's staring at us, and do we have any clothes on there:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 then we are in the matrix and I'm gonna take the red pill:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Come back to the matrix Mr Goku, we have candy:cool: I'll take the Red pill too, ooooh it's cinammon:D What if there was a hybrid Agent Smith/ SION that existed in both universes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE I'll take the Red pill too, ooooh it's cinammon:D I'll take the blue pill ooooh its viagra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I'll take one of those blue pills! Originally posted by Hallucination That means that since the Borg are better than the Federation the Borg would own anyone in the SW universe *Puts on the Geek cap, looks in mirror thinks it looks good on my Encounter Suit!* Incorrect, The Borg may be the hottest thing in Star Trek, but in Star Wars they would get pwnd! Case in point... the Classic Trek Episode where Spocks brain is 'kidnapped' the ship that did the kidnapping was Ion powered, and easily overwhelmed the Enterprise... Later on in the episode when they were decending in a trapped elevator Scotty was commenting that the power source was incredible, clearly beyond their capabilities... "Either it's a nuclear-pile 1000 miles across, or Ion power..." So Ion power is beyond Star Trek tech... while it is commonplace in Star Wars (TIE= Twin Ion Engine)... Meaning even Bail Organa's little Corvette could likely overpower a Borg cube ship with it's handful of Turbolasers... Not to mention the mass damage a Star Destroyer would bring to bear with hundreds of Turbolasers. Even if the Borg could adapt their shields the sheer power that an Ion powered ship can bring to bear would simply outclass the Borg's power generation ability. Even whilst adapting, in Star Wars the Borg would get pwnd! *Removes Geek Cap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 *never seen a geek cap before, tries it on, too small but I'll see if I can get used to it* You're forgetting that the borg would actually be transported into all surrounding ships and immediately start assimilating everyone they contact even if their ship is destroyed (First Contact) their borg jedi would overrun the ships, take control of them and turn them against any remaining ships, all the while, even if they ultimately fail, they still would have assimilated Jedi, Sith, Soldiers, engineers, and officers, so as the drones are either making new drones and winning or getting owned, the hive borg have already begun production of force sensitive technology and force using drones with al the knowledge of assimilated sith and jedi, while they would have been constructing their own technological equivalents from memories of engineers, and analyzing strategies of officers moments after the battle started, the borg don't always knock you out in the first few rounds. *takes geek cap off, it isn't comfortable, doesn't like it, burns the one and only geek cap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 *snatches geekcap* Youre assuming of course that the borg would last long enough to transport and that they could actually transport through the SW shields. Borg have a habit of shoot first and ask and demand that they be assimilated later as I recall. So with their first shot off, the SW ships would take out the cube and that would be the end of it. *takes geekcap off* the -- before my name is something you usually see in quotes in the prefaces of books or the like, its just part of my sig, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 ^^^^ *Nods head in agreement with Aash Li* Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE You're forgetting that the borg would actually be transported into all surrounding ships and immediately start assimilating everyone they contact even if their ship is destroyed (First Contact) *Puts Geek Cap back on...* Ahh yes but they could only do that if their Cube Ships total power output could exceed the Ion powered ships shield strength... not likely... their transporter would fail because it could not penetrate the higher powered Star Wars shields... You wonder why the Turbolasers are Turbo-ed don't you? You notice that you never prominantly hear in Star Wars that their shields have been weakened or lessened? In Star Trek we constantly are berated with "shields at whatever % captain" in Star Wars the only apparent way to lessen shield protection is to destroy the generators themselves. In Star Wars shields are apparently a two-fold defence, they can be angled to actually deflect incoming attacks, or placed in a spherical array for an absorbing defense, whereas Star Trek's shields are apparently a spherical protective barrier only. *Puts Geek Cap back on hook...* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 :confused: Is everyone still sane here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by Aash Li the -- before my name is something you usually see in quotes in the prefaces of books or the like, its just part of my sig, nothing else. :eek:that was a programming joke which no one seemed to have gotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I don't know programming, but I got the joke (don't explain them, it's better to have people like me in the dark, so the people who do get it will enjoy it more:D ) *dang, thought I burned it, knocks the ashes off and puts it back on* Turbo lasers are "turboed"because G doesn't get out much, other wise they would be uberlasers or blinglasers:D You are forgetting that shields have frequencies which can be adapted to, also the borg have an insane number of ships, they couldn't all be destroyed before the assimilation proccess begins. "You notice that you never prominantly hear in Star Wars that their shields have been weakened or lessened" yet there are so many shiny explosions in star wars:D The borg can take it out the same as anyone else can. And if they angled there shields to deflect fire instead of using up power trying to absorb it, then not knowing about transporters they would be in for a nasty surprise:D The Borgs main deal is adaptation, so everytime a cube is fiired upon the rest would adapt, even if the Lasers are turboed a shield that is designed to deflect or absorb it wouldn't require nearly the same power to operate effectively (the best example I can think of is FREELANCER where you must constantly adapt your shield to the common weapons in your area of operations) And since they are adaptive, every encounter would only strengthen them, until their cubes have rivaled the technology stored in the memories of the assimilated, They would probably lose the first few battles, but in doing it they would drag it out long enough to accomplish their acqusition of knowledge, and then come back with equivalent equipment, not to mention the fact that if they assimilated Jedi they would probably use the knowledge to make their cubes force sensitive (they are a collective consciousness, and the force power of thousands of drones with the same mind would be unimaginable) Even their basic weapons are adaptive, I don't think blasters and turbolasers have as many properties that can be changed to compensate for Borg adaptive shielding. *snatches geek cap and throws it in a black hole* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 *puts on geek cap* I have to agree with RJM *run the planet is gonna explode* the borg would probably start with the more passive races that are advanced enought to no the technology or they would simply assimilate one prodomanet sentient being like they did with captian picard. but remember the borg never adapted to the quantum torpedo that starfleet created and there each ship has a weekness that can be exploited. The borg can easily be defeated by introducing a shape that logically can't exsit into the collective. but remembe that unortodox methods are effective against the borg it is kind of like playing against a computer so to speek. their greatest strength is there greatest weekness also they think as one mind so they have no deffence against multipul different tatics at once. *takes back off geek cap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Sooo, You just went in the black hole and got the geek cap? What if noone on this forum is real and it's a psychology experiment being performed by some bored six year old genius" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 *makes another geekcap* Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE You are forgetting that shields have frequencies which can be adapted to, also the borg have an insane number of ships, they couldn't all be destroyed before the assimilation proccess begins. Again, you are assuming that SW shields have frquencies and harmonics that can be adapted too. Im sure they do, but they are ion powered, and how do you adapt to something that is way outside your scope of understanding? And if they angled there shields to deflect fire instead of using up power trying to absorb it, then not knowing about transporters they would be in for a nasty surprise:D SW shields can be used to encompass the ship as well as be angled. Their ships are like 100 times larger than borg cubes. Im sure it would take a very long time for the borg to take over such a ship. And SW ships probly have several redundant systems to keep the ship running incase something happens to one of them. Again with the assuming. What makes you think jedi could be overwhelmed by borg? Theyve been shown to be able to defeat small armies single-handedly, and youve obviously forgotten they can use the force to push and toss and other types of powers. And then they have lightsabers... and vibroblades. You cant shield against vibroblades or slug-throwers, and probly not lightsabers either since they arent laser-based. Unfortunately I would have to agree though, the borg after getting their asses handed to them by spaceships several times they would go hide on some planet , and would most likely go and assimilate a planet, assuming that its not one with planetary defenses or jedi But we could go on like this for days, since this is all meaningless. Besides who would want to have star treki n star wars? Do you *really* want that? Seriously? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 But if the borg assimilate the vong then they are invisible to the jedi. and besides that, the borg are tougher than the vong, and the vong took on jedi pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Aash LI, Aash Li, Aash Li, have you not yet read the peanut butter/chocolate theory/law of scifi:D *Ashley forgets to take geek cap off, gets mocked by peers:D * *since Ashley has the one and only geek cap, I will have to settle for my aluminum foil quasi geeky anti-sith cranial, puts it on and feels respected:D * When the borg transport in they do it efficiently, they appear with the nanotubes at the targets necks before they even know whats happening, and even if they spin around and run the drones through, the nanoprobes would infiltrate their bodies, not knowing what Nprobes are they would probably try to medicate them innefectively, and any force powers used would surely wreak havoc on their nervous systems, so they have effectively traded drones for jedi drones. "again with the assuming" you are all supporting your opinions with the fact that SW ships are more powerful, but you forget that it's a long time ago, and even in a galaxy far far away, the borg could have transwarped there at some point and assimilated ancient library ruins, another thing to consider is that having more power doesn't neccesarilly mean they would win (fed/kling/rom vs dominion/breen/cardassian in the dominion wars)" Everyones assuming everything, so here's the final answer, The cronological, spatial and other really intelligent sounding things would be so different that when they warped in the whole universe would explode taking both the borg and the SW armies with it:D Anybody have a new question? *Johnny takes aluminum foil cranial off and puts it in a safe secret place* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 *computer screen starts cracking RUN EVERYONE* um why try and sound smart when you aren't:p and forget trying to act it also *gets geek cap from Aash Li and put it on* what if every RBG monitor in the world exploded at once? *duplicates geek cap and gives on back to Aash Li* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Along time ago... were assuming that star wars happened in our time frame. In which case the movies never say how long ago. Another thing, which time frame does the long time ago bit refer to? Ours? theres? some warped timeline caused by GL's dementia? lol The way I look at it is, that its an alternate reality where all the planets are inhabited by aliens... and in episode 5, the galaxy that luke and leia are looking at from that medicl frieghter looks an awful lot like the milky way. The borg cant assimilate the vong because the vong dont have any mechanical technology to assimilate as I recall. Anyway, the topic is pretty much stale-mated. So next subject? ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE Ok, Mono I blame thee and though and whichever other way I can. As it happens, I've temporarily removed that part of my sig for a more mod-related link. And don't forget Giant Monkeys. Originally posted by Aash Li Dont think with your crotch, and we make perfect sense. hehehe I tried using my brain once. You all actually make even less sense. Who did a better job choreographing the lightsaber duels in the Star Wars movies? Bob Anderson (OT) or Nick Gillard (PT)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Kenobi Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Originally posted by Aash Li Along time ago... were assuming that star wars happened in our time frame. In which case the movies never say how long ago. Another thing, which time frame does the long time ago bit refer to? Ours? theres? some warped timeline caused by GL's dementia? lol The way I look at it is, that its an alternate reality where all the planets are inhabited by aliens... and in episode 5, the galaxy that luke and leia are looking at from that medicl frieghter looks an awful lot like the milky way. The borg cant assimilate the vong because the vong dont have any mechanical technology to assimilate as I recall. Anyway, the topic is pretty much stale-mated. So next subject? ^_^ George says this: "170,000 years ago, in the Vordarian Beltway Galaxy, 850 trillion light years from our Milky Way Galaxy" That's when it all went down DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 They were choreographed? i thought the just tried to give every one a noggin' floggin' in the movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I personally think all the lightsaber duels could use some work:D There should be more martial arts, wrestling, and athletics in the fighting, more than simply swinging sabers and using force powers. And "um why try and sound smart when you aren't and forget trying to act it also" So I'm not smart simply because I dissagree with you? Yeah I'm a redneck carpenter, But you're just assuming I'm not smart, would you believe I actually won a science fair a while ago (some crap about solar power or something) And while I mess up occasionally and use too many commas, I can actually spell fairly well. "what if every RBG monitor in the world exploded at once?" people who had another option would still use computers, the rest would read, until they saved up for a new one. "the galaxy that luke and leia are looking at from that medicl frieghter looks an awful lot like the milky way" "in a galaxy far far away" I don't know about the vong but if they had any useful info whatsoever, the borg would attempt to assimilate them. Ok lets have some fun, you side with the borg and I'll side with the SW navies for a couple posts, see what we come up with:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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