[REL]Holowan Plugin

[RedHawke]

The bladesinger outfit? That's not one in the plugin so I couldn't troubleshoot that very well.

It is part of the plugin DK as you included my Exile's Generals Uniform Mod... and that is where that Bladesinger uniform comes from.

[General Kenobi]

Yep, Echani Atton DID come with his own robe and you SHOULD NOT put it into the game in override. Your almost guaranteed to have a conflict issue. Maybe one that doesn't replace something that will crash the game BUT is almost guaranteed to have a conflicting number and such.

 

@DK Yeah the saber he's talking about is one of my favs from USM. It was made by ChAiNz.2da I believe. One of the longsabers in the game.

 

General Kenobi

[ChAiNz.2da]

@DK Yeah the saber he's talking about is one of my favs from USM. It was made by ChAiNz.2da I believe. One of the longsabers in the game.

Bao-Dur's saber? ... nope, that was T7's

 

The only longsaber I made was the Segan Wyndh Sabers... Black and grey with a "bent" hilt, has a 'lit' hilt showing the color of the blade?

[General Kenobi]

The only longsaber I made was the Segan Wyndh Sabers... Black and grey with a "bent" hilt, has a 'lit' hilt showing the color of the blade?

 

Oopsie Yeah yours was the one I was meaning ChAiNz I use Segan's for both Mandalore and Bao-Dur (well at least my Bao-Dur but hes TOTALLY different than the in game one though)

 

General Kenobi

[Bunk]

Couple issues I should bring up now that Ive been playing it a bit. There seems to be no way to adjust the Hardcore mod as suggested in the HC mod's readme. As it is currently, its pretty much impossible to get by Mira's solo run on Nar Shadda without cheating. Im gonna have to d/l the original HC mod to get one of the less drastic .ncs's. Which difficulty did you put in by default?

 

Ok, thats actually only one issue.

[Darkkender]

Couple issues I should bring up now that Ive been playing it a bit. There seems to be no way to adjust the Hardcore mod as suggested in the HC mod's readme. As it is currently, its pretty much impossible to get by Mira's solo run on Nar Shadda without cheating. Im gonna have to d/l the original HC mod to get one of the less drastic .ncs's. Which difficulty did you put in by default?

 

Ok, thats actually only one issue.

 

 

:D Insane HC mod :D Of course if you have the readme for the HC mod It gives suggestions of how to change some settings.

 

As for any solo runs or different equipment needs. I usually create spare suits of jedi armors and segan wyndth inlay & overlays. I can never remember if it is the segan inlay & the nanoweave overlay or visa verca that I use in the armor but I keep spares handy in inventory. Then I throw it on Mira or whoever needs it. Same with all sorts of good equipment that is beefed up to have handy for just these types of missions. Believe me if you do this your usually set at all times.

[Bunk]

My problem was I did Nar Shada first, so I didnt have that much equipment yet, and got the Exchange's attention early, so Mira was only 12th level. With her wearing the segan armor and using the best weapons I could buff up, I still couldn't even come remotely close to killing Hanhar. I had her armor up around 29, but Hanhar's attack bonus was at least 25, and he had around 32 armor. So essentially, he'd cut down a Mando melee shield in swing one, and kill her in the next two. Setting off every mine in the place, using all her rockets, and setting any extra mines I could - knocked almost a third of Hanhar's hps off If I tried standing toe to toe with him, it literally took him two swings to kill me, as he was averaging 60 dam per attack.

 

I finally gave up and just used god mode.

 

Its too bad, because I found the fights when I had my whole party challenging but fun. As soon as I have to use any non jedi though - they get nuked.

 

I was able to drop the HC mod down to moderate, which seems to be working for me. I could be wrong, but I don't think any of those options were included in the Holowan pack though. I had to download the HC mod seperately and pull them out.

 

I'm really not complaining, just pointing out that in some circumstance, the Insane HC will make the game unbeatable.

[Bunk]

Hi folks. I have another issue for you

 

Ive been playing through a light side character using the Holowan mod, and the patch.

I'm having issues though - the game is now crashing on me.

 

Any time I try to fly to Telos or Dantooine, or if I try entering the end cave on Korriban - the whole game crashes to desktop about 3/4 through loading the area. Crash happens every time.

 

I tried renaming my override folder, and creating a new override with just the Holowan mod and patch, and the save game still crashes.

 

So Iv'e thrown the save game up on a site, wondering if anyone would like to download it and see if it works for them. The save is just outside the cave on Korriban that causes the crash.

 

Anyone who can make some suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

 

http://www.bunkphotos.com/files/000049Game48.rar

 

edit: spaces in filenames are bad

[Zyrusticae]

Eh-heh... the insane HC mod was the first thing I noticed - and changed - as I like to restart the game with my old character's endgame XP and equipment (using the KSE, of course... 'shame they didn't include an import/export function). The mod makes the game unnaturally hard especially when the main character is higher level than any of the other characters. Not that I'm complaining, I always found a way to get through. Didn't like having 10-minute long battles, though.

[Darkkender]

Thank you bunk. Others have reported problems in different manners for this location. However you are the first who has provided a save so that I can try to fix the problem. Everyone else has blown me off when I've asked them to get me a copy of there save.

[General Kenobi]

Well DK I'm not sure but it might not be the plugin??? At least for me I've played through both areas several times with HP installed with no crashes. Maybe its an item conflict or something??? Not sure but just don't want you to think it's in ALL playthroughs with the HP installed. Mine are running ok. Just a thought

 

General Kenobi

[Darkkender]

Well DK I'm not sure but it might not be the plugin??? At least for me I've played through both areas several times with HP installed with no crashes. Maybe its an item conflict or something??? Not sure but just don't want you to think it's in ALL playthroughs with the HP installed. Mine are running ok. Just a thought

 

General Kenobi

 

I don't know GK. It seems to be a repeated glitch at the same spot. I suspect it is a appearance entry of some sort that is entered wrong that that area is calling. So by getting a save it allows me to look through it with KSE and compare it to other data sources. It also allows me to try to get the error to repeat for me. Because then I can try a game from the start as the same appearance and see if it crashes on me.

[General Kenobi]

Good luck then I'll pay particular attention and make sure I "mix" my party/stuff up a bit to see if I can get it to crash as well. There are some appearances/items I've not tried either though so mayble that's it. You know there are TONS of stuff I don't remember seeing on the forums that are in the plugin so once more to reinerate a point, "Way to go on doing this one" Just fun, fun, fun

 

General Kenobi

[Bunk]

Just to add a little more detail to the crash situation. Whatever it is thats causing it in my case, it doesn't seem to be just limited to that cave. If you take that save, turn around and head back to the Hawk, and then try travelling to either Dantoine or Telos, you get the same crash. Its not travelling per se thats doing it though.

 

Before I came to Korriban on this save, I tried going back to Telos from Nar Shadda, and got this crash. It did let me travel to Korriban without crashing though. So, off the top of my head - there is something in the Cave, on Dantoine, and on Telos - that is not on Korriban - that is causing the crash.

 

Let me know what you find, I really would like to finish that game

[Darkkender]

can you take a look at your error log file for me bunk and post it's contents in the thread here. The reason is I've loaded the save and it's working fine with USM & Holowan plugin installed. Also if you can give me a detailed list of all the mods you have installed in your overide that may help me further. At this point I really am beginning to think this is being caused by some sort of conflict. Especially if you have the HLFP mod installed which I don't.

[General Kenobi]

I have those DK (Stoffe's High Level Force Powers I mean) installed, tons of my own, USM, HP, Ton's of Hattori Hanzo Swords installed, T3 Codename Vorlon, and a few others. Like I said no crashes for me. Ooh as well as Hack Pad, RedHawke Correction, Stoffe's Combat Arena, Defender's Wrist Console as well.

 

General Kenobi

[proe-dude]

Just to add a little more detail to the crash situation. Whatever it is thats causing it in my case, it doesn't seem to be just limited to that cave. If you take that save, turn around and head back to the Hawk, and then try travelling to either Dantoine or Telos, you get the same crash. Its not travelling per se thats doing it though.

 

Before I came to Korriban on this save, I tried going back to Telos from Nar Shadda, and got this crash. It did let me travel to Korriban without crashing though. So, off the top of my head - there is something in the Cave, on Dantoine, and on Telos - that is not on Korriban - that is causing the crash.

 

Let me know what you find, I really would like to finish that game

Bunk - I get the same problem when attempting to enter the special cave on Korriban. I can get into the Shyrack cave, but when the game attempts to load the stuff for the "memory cave", it loads to 3/4 thru, then crashes.

 

I get a file in my load point, aptly named AE_ERROR.LOG, with this content:

"Names Differ: PLC_wrkTable2 plc_scrysred"

 

Note that the content of the error messsage is not always the same. I contacted DK last week with the same problem, but before I'd send a save file, I wanted to try and play thru again. Same issue. I'm running the USM and this one. Nothing else. I even reinstalled the game for good measure. Yet I haven't tried heading back to Telos or Dantooine. You may have saved me there, thanks.

 

To satisfy DK's curiosity, I'll be sending a link to my own saved game in a PM to him. Anyway, wanted to let you know that I'm getting the exact same error.

[General Kenobi]

scrysred

 

Maybe that means problem with a "saber chrystal red" of some type.

 

General Kenobi

[proe-dude]

GK - perhaps, but it isn't always the same content in the error log. Last week when I contacted DK, it was "Names do not match: PMHC06 pmhc10", which was a bit more upsetting.

 

When I saw this error today, I looked for items that looked like potential issues. For example, earlier this afternoon, it was "Named to not match: I_NULL i_mask_069"

 

I couldn't find exactly what i_mask_069 was by using the KSE, but I did find the file(s) [3 of them] that had that in the name. To be safe, I deleted all headgear from my save game and returned to the spot of the error with absolutely nothing equiped and no party members. Same problem.

 

Just to set the record straight on comp system, I'm a 9800 Radeon 128MB, 1GM RAM. With all the proper drivers installed (I believe). The fact some people seem to have NO problem running this does concern me.

 

Many thanks - proe-dude

[maaneeack]

I crash trying to enter the cave as well, but I don't even get the loading screen. My AR_ERROR.log has:

Names Differ: PFHA04 pfha07

but it had something about the handmaiden and pfbam before i redid my Override folder today. I edited the cheatband to give my PC some extra feats and an unlimited shield, I have the unpatched holowan plugin, the redhead (i think i reinstalled that head), mdk_asian_female_04, workbench fix (redhawke's ?), jedi sith helmets, sith ritual robe. And I had redhawke's armour but everytime i tried to use one of the armours it would crash the game.

 

Anyhow: from my first attempt at the secret tomb on the save with my female pc, and all subsequent attempts, i crash right after the screen goes black when you walk into it, I can't even warp into it without the game crashing. I also had crash problems with my first game (male pc) entering the secret tomb, but I finally got in and through the place. I could try warping into there on one of his saves if it might help someone? But I've changed my mods/override folder twice since I finished the game with him...

 

I'm also getting random lockups with a new female pc (the asian woman with the tattoos on the face) just after I open the security locker in the security room on Peragus (the one with the security officer's desk). But the secret tomb is aggrivating me most atm.

[Darkkender]

I'm noticing a trend here with all of the above error reports. They are conflicts being derived from model files it seems. Some of the above error/conflicts seem to be derived from Heads while others are from items. The only one that is not a plugin model would be "Names Differ: PLC_wrkTable2 plc_scrysred" which is likely from a placeable in the USM. That however is just speculation on my part. The errors seem to be from the game reading the file name however inside the file the internal names seem to differ. "Named to not match: I_NULL i_mask_069" Without a doubt this is got to be a mask crafted by Redhawke that was included in the plugin. What's ironic is this is actually caused by internal instabilities of TSL. However now that I suspect I know the solution I can try to do a work around fix for it.

 

 

On a off-hand note for those having problems with game crashes. Could you post what your SWKotor2 configuration settings are? I just want to see if there are any similarities there and to see if I can't replicate the problem with the same settings except the whole Radeon 9800 thing.

[Bunk]

Ok, this is the latest error log I have:

 

Names Differ: .....PFHH10 dmpfhh10

 

Currently I have my original override folder renamed, and I created a new override with just the Holowan mod and the patch installed. I'll try some things and get back to you.

 

 

I didn't reinstall the USM mod in to there though, so I might try that as well.

[Bunk]

Just checked my save game - dmpfhh10 is the portrait Im using.

 

So I just ran a test. Used KSE to change my portrait to something else. Went in and got the same crash entering the cave, same error log.

[Bunk]

Just used KSE to change my appearance and portait to something else. Now I get a different error log: Names Differ: w_Lghtsbr_003 w_lghtsbr_062

 

 

Here are my current config settings: Using a Gforce 6600GT. Might be long:

 

 

[Display Options]

FullScreen=1

Disable Movies=0

Disable Intro Movies=0

Sort Modules=1

Width=640

Height=480

BitsPerPixels=32

RefreshRate=60

 

[sound Options]

Music Volume=85

Voiceover Volume=85

Sound Effects Volume=85

Movie Volume=85

Number 3D Voices=30

Number 2D Voices=34

2D3D Bias=1.50

EAX=0

Sound Init=0

Disable Sound=0

Force Software=1

 

[Graphics Options]

Grass=1

Shadows=1

EnableHardwareMouse=1

FullScreen=1

RefreshRate=72

Width=1280

Height=960

Emitters=1

Anisotropy=4

Frame Buffer=1

Soft Shadows=1

Brightness=62

V-Sync=0

Texture Quality=2

Anti Aliasing=4

 

[Game Options]

UnlockedPlanetSongs=2047

Enable Tooltips=1

Keyboard Camera Deceleration=2000.000000

Keyboard Camera Acceleration=500.000000

Keyboard Camera DPS=200.000000

TextureVariation=85

BodyVariation=9

AppearanceType=984

PCGender=1

GameCompleted=0

CurSithLord=2

Hide InGame GUI=0

Use Small Fonts=0

Hide Unequippable=0

Tutorial Popups=1

Subtitles=1

Mini Map=1

Floating Numbers=1

Status Summary=1

Enable Mouse Teleporting To Buttons=1

Mouse Sensitivity=44

Difficulty Level=1

Auto Level Up NPCs=0

Mouse Look=0

AutoSave=1

EnableScreenShot=0

Reverse Mouse Buttons=0

Reverse Ingame YAxis=0

Reverse Minigame YAxis=1

Combat Movement=1

TooltipDelay Sec=1

Disable Movies=0

EnableCheats=1

 

[config]

firstrun=0

 

[Keymapping]

Action286B=8

Action286A=7

Action285B=10

Action285A=9

Action284B=55

Action284A=67

Action283B=54

Action283A=51

Action282B=69

Action282A=73

Action281B=54

Action281A=51

Action280B=69

Action280A=73

Action268=52

Action265=58

Action264=57

Action263=0

Action262=85

Action261=84

Action260=83

Action259=82

Action258=81

Action257=80

Action256=79

Action255=78

Action254=77

Action253=31

Action245=75

Action244=55

Action243=67

Action242=74

Action241=87

Action240=56

Action239=68

Action238=82

Action236=83

Action234=81

Action232=80

Action230=79

Action228=78

Action226=77

Action225=70

Action224=90

Action223=31

Action222=25

Action221=24

Action220=29

Action219=28

Action218=43

Action217=87

Action216=65

Action215=63

Action214=60

Action213=62

Action212=61

Action211=66

Action210=59

Action209=71

Action208=89

Action207=72

Action206=30

Action205=53

Action204=76

 

[Autopause Options]

End Of Combat Round=0

Mine Sighted=0

Enemy Sighted=1

Party Killed=1

Action Menu=0

New Target Selected=1

 

[Movies Shown]

Movie10=0

Movie 9=0

Movie 8=0

Movie 7=28

Movie 6=127

Movie 5=222

Movie 4=252

Movie 3=255

Movie 2=255

Movie 1=255

Movie 0=252

[ChAiNz.2da]

the "plc_scrysred" is a custom placeable in the USM for Korriban's caves. If you've used KMM (KotOR Mod Manager) to install the USM, it won't place this file in your override as it's not a recognized file format (since it's rarely ever used)... make sure that file is in your override directory

 

But why it's conflicting with a worktable (PLC_wrkTable2) I have no clue?

 

Do you perchance have a modded worktable made to construct USM sabers?