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RevanA4

By RevanA4
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Vladimir-Vlada Newbie

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All you talked about was acting on our emotion. Decision to show it, nothing in what you said gave any reason to believe that love in itself is a choice anymore than we choose to be overcome with some other complex emotion. If anything if further showed there is no concious effort in the matter. In the end **** happens and we can't do anything about it's existence, we can merely choose to accept that it's there or ignore it.

:indif: That's what I was trying to point out.

 

Plus, I'm trying my best... :(

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CrudeMatter Newbie

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"Good" is as good as it gets in your mind. That is to say, the greater your vision of exactly what "love" means, the greater it can be in your experience.

To look at a history of the conceptualization of "love", its a loaded term. I personally appreciate the ancient Greek take on it all. They had different words for the commonly accepted types of love... Phileos (brotherly love), Eros (erotic love), Agape, etc. To later christians the idea of an unconditional love was synonymized with God. How big is "love" in your mind? I assume that you are referring mostly to the spousal, dating, modern relationship sort of love, which actually serves to minimize and dilute the whole of the concept. Love in the sense you are referring is a very reactive thing that stems from an unidealized self-knowledge, and a lack of a commitment to ensuring that it is something greater than a reaction in your experience. Biological responses to stimuli are not love, though many people would care to leave it as such intellectually. Anything past 'horny' is going to take some commitment and genuine thought without agenda. Love is a choice, a set of behaviors... the way you choose to be... unless you're one of those people who resists knowing yourself more deeply. In which case you'll probably flop from 'love' to 'love' seeing only glimpses of what it really is. You can love anyone... nay everyone... as much as that may seem to deprive the idea of 'romance'. ...but then what exactly is that? lol If you can't truly love anyone, what chance is there to ideally love someone? Not to grasp the greatest possible meaning of love ensures that the love one would give is a lesser sort... a shadow... a dim reflection. There is a certain writing that speaks of love by saying "...And now I will show you the most excellent Way..." It goes on to describe 'love' as a set of idealized behaviors that few could debate, regardless of what 'type' of love they were referring to. To truly love, in its grandest sense, is a discipline few acheive. Not just a choice, mind you, nor a reaction... but a discipline. To 'turn off' love is another term for denial... to fail to examine love is negligence. The idea of turning off something that was neglected in the first place is a moot point, it has already failed of it's own accord. Try to look within(and without) and articulate the most ideal definition of love you can, then go for it... few will have any better advice.

 

to the hitchikers guide and other bitter mindsets... "A cynic is an Idealist with a broken heart." I know you, because I am one. love anyway.

 

--- leaves his 2 cents on the table ---

kinda deep for a SW forum. = )

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you can choose not to love someone. or would that be lying to yourself?

 

well simply put you don't make a choice to love someone you make choices that lead you to feel that way but love is natural not a choice no matter how you look at it

 

It just happens

 

and you can say you don't love someone but you still do unless you make an effort to distance youself from them

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ok before ya go :eek: he is at it again this isn't what ya think

 

I was listening to the radio this morning and someone said something that floored me they said that love was a decision I just wanna see how many of ya agree or dissagree and why and plz if you vote tell why you voted how you did

 

thanks

 

Revan the great

 

 

edit: I said no because you don't just decide you are going to love someone it just happens and sometimes you are clueless as to why you are in love with someone

 

 

A few questions, if I may

Why did it 'floor' you to hear someone say that love was a decision?

Why do you want to hear others' opinions on the matter?

...and... Do you 'love' your mother?

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A few questions, if I may

Why did it 'floor' you to hear someone say that love was a decision?

Why do you want to hear others' opinions on the matter?

...and... Do you 'love' your mother?

 

what heck kind of questions are those

 

and READ MY POSTS FOR CHRIST SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

and why not see what people thought that radio station did the same thing today?

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CrudeMatter Newbie

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what heck kind of questions are those

 

and READ MY POSTS FOR CHRIST SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

and why not see what people thought that radio station did the same thing today?

 

lolol what the heck kind of answers are those lolol

-they were pointed questions, btw-

 

I did read your posts... you're not infinitely articulate... just repetetive.

Read my posts

 

I asked you because you posted the thread. I'm sorry, were my questions too philosophically challenging? >= ) I didn't mean to offend. I was genuinely trying to understand your position more deeply... were you reciprocating?

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A slightly off topic topic...CrudeMatter, you are new to this forum, but it is obvious that you are well versed and articulate. You wouldn't happen to be a teacher would you?

 

I do my best, and thank you for noticing... but no sir I'm not. At least not in any traditional sense. Just like the profile says... noob nobody. Why do you ask? Is there something you think I could be of service with?

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lolol what the heck kind of answers are those lolol

-they were pointed questions, btw-

 

I did read your posts... you're not infinitely articulate... just repetetive.

Read my posts

 

I asked you because you posted the thread. I'm sorry, were my questions too philosophically challenging? >= ) I didn't mean to offend. I was genuinely trying to understand your position more deeply... were you reciprocating?

 

 

no I have a hard time experessing what i think in writing and there was no offence you sounded like freud but I truely think that love just happens with out us knowing it and the reason the answer floored me is that I've always felt that we can't choose to love some one

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He probably just wants to know because he is a teacher, and probably wants to start a group of old teachers who can bitch about us young whipper-snappers ^_^

 

I don't need to find other teachers to do that ;). Besides, it is very refreshing to see someone in here who has a mind for philosophy, a good vocabulary, and spelling skills all rolled up into one.

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Oh, I dont doubt it, I just like acting arrogant and self-centered.

 

don't give up, dude...

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Don Schula

Your ego tries to show you how great you could be...not how great you are. No need to excuse it, just use it properly.

Be a bibliophile. Its one of the most valuable things anyone can do.

 

it is very refreshing to see someone in here who has a mind for philosophy, a good vocabulary, and spelling skills all rolled up into one.

 

Yes, it is. It takes one to know one. Thank you sir.

 

no I have a hard time experessing what i think in writing and there was no offence you sounded like freud but I truely think that love just happens with out us knowing it and the reason the answer floored me is that I've always felt that we can't choose to love some one

Noone does until they've done it a few times, and been challenged on it, then revised it a few times, etc. Also, see my advice to ET, be a bibliophile. Other peoples written expression helps you articulate/refine your own, by what you appreciate or not, and especially by what challenges you, or pokes at your ego.

I'm not sure how I take being compared to Freud, but ok. lol

Your feelings on something that you are analyzing for the first time are unarticulated. Intellectually, you haven't challenged the idea in your own mind, you've only resisted it. You won't be able to gain much from anyone else's words until you do... I was trying to help you acheive that. I had no agenda, and I have no interest in 'forcing' anyone to agree with me... I was trying to be a responsive sounding board, and I am still perfectly willing to indulge you.

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