Fandom Battle Z. (formerly Anakin Vs. Revan)

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

Strangely enough, that was the one time I really was high:D

J/K

 

But yeah, I don't know what his beef is:D

 

I thought most forumites here prided themselves on being "opn-minded";)

[Aurora Merlow]

Revan and the Exile wouldnt have even been a pimple on his ass, he mrched through the acadamy on coruscant like an army of legioneers going through Gaul, and there were plenty of jedi masters there that were teaching the younglings. So Vader All the way !!

 

you do remember that Revan also marched through a the Sith academy on Korriban destroying everything in his path which was also full of Sith masters and teachers.

 

Also I have to agree with whoever said in KOTOR period they had a greater knowledge of the force and if you disagree, why then did Anakin/Vader need the death star, if he was the most powerful of all time he could have used the force to destroy planets like Nihilus

 

For me Revan would have taken him

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

Unless, I have it, the final solution to the dilemma...

 

FEMALE REVAN AND ANAKIN

 

Who cares who wins, they both do;)

 

Gotta love time travel:D

[YertyL]

One big problem with the EU (and "sequels" generally I guess) is that in order to attract the reader's attention, the stories tend to become more epic and the characters tend to become more and more powerful. Accepting this or not is a personal choice, but I believe when comparing EU to canon you should be aware of the fact that EU will always spawn an even more powerful character if necessary.

 

I for one do not really admire things like the "galaxy gun" or destroying whole planets through the Force (*sigh*). Modesty is a virtue for writers as well

 

Oh, and in my imagination Revan is somewhere on the level of Count Dooku or maybe even Yoda/Emperor, but still < Anakin/Vader

[Kain]

I'll take this moment to direct people to old threads in the EU forum where Canon vs EU has been discussed and forgotten countless times before. At the moment, you people are arguing in circles and just increasing your post count. You'll never change your minds, kthx, moving on.

 

Quoted for emphasis.

KotOR fans need to go watch the movies that made their little fetish possible and rethink their outlook on Canon vs EU.

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

"the stories tend to become more epic and the characters tend to become more and more powerful."

 

Okay mr smartypants:) go watch the OT then watch the NT *cough*lightsaberduelsandforcepowers*cough*

 

If Gl just had the same saber fighting as the OT it would've been way more boring,

it is the duty of the writers to give their take on the story their best shot,

Would you rather have a bunch of short-short saber wielding ewoks or An 1337 Revan,

It has to grow with every new chapter, or eventually even the most diehard fans won't even care.

 

@Kain, uh yeah we did and half of it sucked, they were okay because they were SW otherwise they weren't worth watching,

It could have been so much better...

 

Take away all the epic look, shiny graphics, and space battles the GL is the Grand Poobah of, and KotOR is a stronger addition to the timeline, even though the NT is considered "more official"

[El Sitherino]

It could have been so much better...

So could KOTOR...

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

Yeah, that's why I'm learning how to mod;)

[Bastila]

Well the way i see it is that if Obi Wan can beat Anakin then Revan has a good or even better chance at beating Anakin.

[The Doctor]

K this is getting out of hand. Revan lived 4000 years before Anakin. Hell, neither of them ever actually existed nor will they ever exist, unless some crazy freak names their child Anakin or Revan, in which cas: DIE LOSER! (j/k). It's wierd enough arguing over wheter Anakin would beat Yoda or something, much less someone who was written to live 4000 years before him.

Just a reality check, guys.

 

 

 

 

PS: Revan would win, anyway:D

[SpaceAlex]

LOL, this thread actually made me laugh. No offense to any of you guys typing in here, but i have to tell you that the discussion about which person that doesn't exist is the most powerful is stupid. Not only they do not really exist, they are also 4000 years apart. There are other reasons to why any discussion about who's the strongest (even in real life) is stupid, but i'm too lazy to point them out now.

[Darth InSidious]

I think actually that the Force has been weakened by millennia of wounds....started by Malachor....

 

In any case, Sith and Jedi are gradually getting less and less powerful (see Kreia's comments, Korriban) - this also makes sense since a Sith won't teach his apprentice EVERYTHING, in case the apprentice overpowers him, and the Jedi, to prevent the apprentice from misusing the power or falling, or withholds it until they are ready, only to be killed.....

 

As I see it, Sidious was as powerful as maybe one of the old Jedi Masters, maybe Atris or someone, as is Yoda (the only reason he beats Yoda is cuz Yoda is unprepared, and he has gravity on his side, if you would care to re-watch the scene )

 

Vader/Anakin IS the chosen one, incarnate of the Force. He is NOT the most powerful force-user/Sabre duelist ever. Vadakin IS the most powerful alive by that time, since everyone else alive is weak due to generations of increasingly watered-down teaching. Sure, Anakin's teaching is watered-down too, but he is the CHOSEN ONE OMGBBQWTF?!, and so that makes up for it. If he'd been given a level playing-field with Revan, he might have beaten him. But let's also not forget that Darth Revan has the entire power of the Star Forge, and a stronger Force fuelling him.

 

Lest-we-forget, Anakin uses a sabre like a club, smashing it into things, as do many other Jedi and Dark Jedi in the films, And the masters use them little better. Sure, they are good with them, but that's all. Good. Not great, as, say, Vrook was, or Vandar, or, dare we say it, Malak, Nihilus, and Sion.

 

Finally, Revan would have the better sabre, since he could still get decent focussing crystals from Ruusan, a better supply from Ilum, and other sources had probably not dried up then.

[YertyL]

Okay mr smartypants:) go watch the OT then watch the NT *cough*lightsaberduelsandforcepowers*cough*

 

If Gl just had the same saber fighting as the OT it would've been way more boring,

it is the duty of the writers to give their take on the story their best shot,

Would you rather have a bunch of short-short saber wielding ewoks or An 1337 Revan,

It has to grow with every new chapter, or eventually even the most diehard fans won't even care.

There is a difference between a better depiction of a story and an exaggeration of the story itself... I am defnitely not opposed to special effects and great saber fighting; But do you by chance know e.g. Dragonball Z? This is IMO a pretty classic example: While it is pretty funny in the beginning, later on (Freezer etc.) things simply start to get boring as the story revolves around Son-Goku fighting a 100 times more powerful opponent, than another opponent 1000 times more powerful than the last one ... do you get the picure?

Depiciton of a story and the story itself are simply different things and while I welcome any development of the former, I believe story content itself should not step over certain bounders set by previous stories - partially because this quickly leads to a neverending circle (more and more powerful characters, bigger and bigger ships, more and more potent weapons etc.) and partially because it can severely spoil the fun of the original stories if these are dwarfed or contradicted by their sequels.

[YertyL]

In any case, Sith and Jedi are gradually getting less and less powerful (see Kreia's comments, Korriban) - this also makes sense since a Sith won't teach his apprentice EVERYTHING, in case the apprentice overpowers him, and the Jedi, to prevent the apprentice from misusing the power or falling, or withholds it until they are ready, only to be killed.....

 

This completely ignores the possibility of re-discovery or simply development (e.g. Mace Windu developing Form VII into Vapaad)

 

Lest-we-forget, Anakin uses a sabre like a club, smashing it into things, as do many other Jedi and Dark Jedi in the films, And the masters use them little better. Sure, they are good with them, but that's all. Good. Not great, as, say, Vrook was, or Vandar, or, dare we say it, Malak, Nihilus, and Sion.

 

Finally, Revan would have the better sabre, since he could still get decent focussing crystals from Ruusan, a better supply from Ilum, and other sources had probably not dried up then.

 

Arguing with the depitction of a story is hardly ever good for conclusions about the story itself.

Following that logic, e.g. all jedi in KOTORII are significantly better than the jedi from KOTORI, since they know lightsaber forms and have access to more Force powers. (Vrook seems to have learned quite some stuff in those few years)

Also, in the few years between KOTORI and II, the number of producable items and Force crystals exploded, the jedi robes changed completely, 2 more ways of executing an attack were discovered ... see what I mean?

 

And I guess in the non-gaming SW universe a lightsaber is a lightsaber - what would an improved lightsaber do, cut through everything even better ...?

[MdKnightR]

I don't think there would be a contest. Anakin would PWN Revan! And, to everyone who is saying "there's 4000 years separating them," people are all the time saying "Who would win between Mike Tyson and Muhammed Ali?" so it's just in good fun. Just like "how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" No one will ever know.