[kotor] Carth Romance Fix

[cjt0202]

... or "Hey! Why do the Male PC and Bastila get to have all the fun?"

 

Carth haters can just hit the "Back" button right now. Shoo! Nothing to see here

 

I'm slightly embarrassed that this is the first thing I've managed to accomplish, but heck, it needed doing and nobody else seems to have done it. Released at the request of mjpb3 (and thanks to her for testing it!)

 

The first time I played through the Carth romance, I was a little disappointed in how the scene on the beach after the temple on the Unknown World played out. But I shrugged it off as "Oh well, that's just the way it is." Until I found out that the male PC gets to kiss Bastila (and that depending on how you navigate the dialogue, she can insist upon it!). Now that's just not right! Bastila gets to demand to be kissed, and all I get is a suggestive whisper about "when all this is over"? And then the more I looked at this scene, the more annoying it was -- Carth's telling the woman he loves her from about 10 feet away, and they're not even making eye contact when Mission chimes in with "Sheesh, get a room, will ya?" much less doing anything that actually warrants that remark. So I put on my director's hat -- "OK, on this line I want you to move here, and at this point, I want that camera..." -- and this is the end result.

 

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[mjpb3]

Carthaholics are going to LOVE this one!

 

[Darth333]

Cool! About time we get something like that!

[kdsphantom]

If Carth is having any trouble with his lines, I am ready able and willing to step in and be a body double for him. I always heard he was difficult and tempermental and that was even just on Mondays! But well done cjt0202.

kdsphantom

[RedHawke]

I agree Carth was robbed in the romance department! Nice work there cjt!

[cjt0202]

  kdsphantom said:

If Carth is having any trouble with his lines, I am ready able and willing to step in and be a body double for him.

Heh. Carth wasn't the one who needed a stunt double. I went through a phase where I'd hit the last line of the dialogue, and he'd punch the poor woman in the stomach as he "talked forcefully"

[Kha]

Hi,

 

I've just played it a few times... and really enjoyed!! The dialog is much more intimate now, nice work. Thanks for sharing

[kdsphantom]

Hiya Cjt0202

 

  cjt0202 said:

Heh. Carth wasn't the one who needed a stunt double. I went through a phase where I'd hit the last line of the dialogue, and he'd punch the poor woman in the stomach as he "talked forcefully"

 

Now see thats just wrong!, see how Carth is, that would never happen with me doing his lines. You should come look me up next time angel when you need a stunt double

kdsphantom

[Kristy Kistic]

I have to say I think you did a really excellent job on this. Nice work

[cjt0202]

@mjpb3 - I wandered into the kotorfanmedia forums for the first time today. Thanks for the advertising.

 

@kdsphantom - Considering what they're doing to him over there, he might be ready to take you up on that offer to be his stunt double. Hope you like Mandalorians

[mjpb3]

  cjt0202 said:

@mjpb3 - I wandered into the kotorfanmedia forums for the first time today. Thanks for the advertising.

 

 

you're welcome!

 

Those ladies have gone nuts over there with your mod

 

(of course, if I could get screenshots, I'd be joining them as well... but alas, my screenshot 'dealy' isn't working correctly)

[Anastase]

I haven't played all the way through yet (have only been playing for a day or two now) but this looks very nice, I'm definately going to try it out

 

I had a question though, in the "other" folder, you included some bonus files. I understood the instructions for those, but I was wondering what the source folder .nss files were for? Are they supposed to be put anywhere?

[cjt0202]

  Anastase said:

I haven't played all the way through yet (have only been playing for a day or two now) but this looks very nice, I'm definately going to try it out

 

I had a question though, in the "other" folder, you included some bonus files. I understood the instructions for those, but I was wondering what the source folder .nss files were for? Are they supposed to be put anywhere?

Those are just the source code files for the scripts, included for anyone who's curious. No need to put them anywhere.

[Anastase]

Ahh ok. Thank you so much for answering! I am a real newbie to this game so I have no idea what the different file types do yet I appreciate you answering so quickly I'll let you know what I think once I play it through

[MdKnightR]

You know, I have played through K1 many times, but I have never gotten Carth to say anything about loving her on the beach of the Rakatan world. I know that I have completed everything leading up to that point because when I go back to the temple summit save and decide to go dark side, Carth shows up on the Star Forge trying to save her. Has anyone else had this problem with the romance? I am hoping that this mod release will fix this problem.

[cjt0202]

  MdKnightR said:

You know, I have played through K1 many times, but I have never gotten Carth to say anything about loving her on the beach of the Rakatan world. I know that I have completed everything leading up to that point because when I go back to the temple summit save and decide to go dark side, Carth shows up on the Star Forge trying to save her. Has anyone else had this problem with the romance? I am hoping that this mod release will fix this problem.

Heh, I've played through that particular bit of dialogue so many times, there isn't a ounce of romance left in it

 

Hmmm... if you consistently killed Juhani back in the Grove, then that would cause that problem. The romance part of the dialogue was only linked to one of her lines, and that is fixed in version 1.1. If you're not a habitual Juhani killer.... I'm not sure what the requirement is for Carth to show up on the Star Forge, but to get the "I love you" on the beach, the last conversation you had with him should have been the one about you being Revan. There should have been talk of you being swallowed whole by your big bad destiny, and it should have ended with an exchange of "I think I could love you"s. If he just says he doesn't hate you, you're going to have to make a choice soon, and he hopes he can save you from yourself, then you missed something earlier.

[MdKnightR]

The last time Carth had anything to say was the "I think I could love you" conversation. I think that I have killed Juhani once.

[cjt0202]

  MdKnightR said:

The last time Carth had anything to say was the "I think I could love you" conversation. I think that I have killed Juhani once.

If you had the "I think I could love you" conversation and chose the light side at the temple, I didn't think you could miss it.

 

When Juhani says she has no doubt Bastila will be waiting for you on the Star Forge, does Jolee say "No doubt. I must say it's good to have you with us, my dear" or does it skip straight to Carth saying you should get going before she can organize a bigger welcoming committee? If it's not letting Jolee chime in, you might want to take a peek at your save game in KSE. There's a numeric global variable named K_SWG_CARTH -- it should be set to 15 at that point.

[MdKnightR]

You know, I can't remember. It has been many months since I have played K1. I do seem to remember Jolee saying that though. I will check the Savegame though. Thanks for the tip!

[Jae Onasi]

Woohoo! You did a great job on this mod. This makes the scene look _so_ much better. Thank you!

[zadi]

I've had this mod for a couple of weeks now and it's my favorite mod. I have a few other mods but this is my favorite mod. I'm a sucker for a good romance and frankly the original scene was... anything but good. lol The mod making Carth walk over to her and "kiss" her was far better then the original version. I am one satisfied downloader!

[Jedi Eri]

hey, i got the mod. but carth just says that thing about "the walcome commitee"... What should I do??? I havent killed Juhani

 

Note: i am lightside, finished the Carth quest with Dustil, never called names on him (Ex. "hairless wookie" or whatever on Taris) but there is no romance option to the dialogues. I've got the Carth Jedi mod, the Lightsaber forms, the Arena and some skins installed.

Ah, additionally, when i go to the beach in the Rakatan world, after i've finished the temple quest, either the game crushes, or Carth just says the thing about leaving right now, and the welcome commitee.

HEEEEEElp!!!

[RedHawke]

  Jedi Eri said:

I've got the Carth Jedi mod,...

Ah, additionally, when i go to the beach in the Rakatan world, after i've finished the temple quest, either the game crushes, or Carth just says the thing about leaving right now, and the welcome commitee.

You don't have Carth equipped with 2 lightsabers do you?

 

I have heard that for some reason the beach cutscene sequence doesn't like Carth having 2 lightsabers equipped for some unknown reason and it crashes out. Specifically having to do with a saber in his off-hand. Read about that here. Especially post #9... I have no idea how to fix this either. So the best bet here is always give Carth a single saber or a double saber.

[Jedi Eri]

Actually I do.

Thanx, I'll try him without sabers... And I hope it works

[cjt0202]

If you're not getting the romance options in the dialogues, you missed something earlier in the game. If you didn't tell him to leave you alone or said really mean things like calling his wife a useless ghost, then you must've missed one of the conversations you were supposed to have with him. If you don't complete the romance up to that point, nothing's going to happen on the beach.

 

And if you're not doing things like calling him a hairless wookiee, you're missing out on some of the best parts of the romance. He likes to be teased You might want to save before you talk to him so you can go back and try out the different choices. And talk to him a lot to make sure you're hitting all the conversations.