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Damn it!!!

 

I was reading the Nov Issue of the XBox mag and it seems EA finally decided to really improve NBA Live and MAdden. It took a next gen console to do it but they finally did it. Actual player faces and chatter. Chatter meaning when you play as Green Bay and you hear an audible it's actually a recording of Brett Farve that they used from NFL films.

 

I still hate EA. But I might have to not wish them death so much anymore.

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MdKnightR,

 

EA does the minimum they need to do to make a good game. Especially when they know it'll be coming out year after year (like Madden and Live).

They'll put out the exact same game with one addition (useless) feature.

Basically a roster update.

 

Lots of companies do this but none are as big as EA. EA has no excuse except that they can do it. There are smaller companies who put every effort into making the best game that they can and EA seems to be content with putting out a game that works. Knowing that there are certain people that will buy a new copy every year.

 

Oh yeah, then they went and got rid of the competition for their NFL games by buying the license. 2K6 did too good of a job and also lowered their price and became too competitive so instead of making a better product they did what they could so they didn't have to.

 

Ok, I officially hate them again. :firemad:

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^^^

I second that...

 

That's what they did to WestWood and Command and Conquer. I loved Red Alert 2, and they destroyed it. Grr! :firemad:

 

They managed to kill one of the best game series ever. Though I prefered RA1 over RA2 as well as the original C&C (since it didn't have a skirmish mode). Generals was more of a propaganda machine than a game, considering the iraq part and the terrorism part.

 

I mean why has the usa to be in, or china, and why do terrorists have to be in. It always was sovjets and allies, or GDI and NOD, but somebody decides to turn the game into some national socialist propaganda thing (featuring the usa instead of germany). Also the information provided is completely off, claiming that usa rangers are the best troops in the world, while it actually is the british SAS that are considered the best. Also I hate teh part where the game states that iraq is full of terrorists, while it is clear that they only came in there AFTER it was invaded.

 

Lets just hope that EA doesn't buy Cossacks, or else we may see the usa in europe during the 16th century (did it even exist back in the 16th century? Not that that bothers EA).

 

I really think you shouldn't make a game about the world as it is today (unless you don't put good guys and bad guys in), it is bound to upset people. The fun thing about Star Wars is that it doesn't take place here or now. Same goes for Dune. Red Alert may take place on earth, but that is a fight that never happened.

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Lets just hope that EA doesn't buy Cossacks, or else we may see the usa in europe during the 16th century (did it even exist back in the 16th century? Not that that bothers EA).

 

Didn't you know that George Washington destroyed Napoleon's army with the help of Wellington at the battle of Essling? America is so l337, it can defeat any army even in time periods where it didn't even exist.[/sarcasm]

 

I really think you shouldn't make a game about the world as it is today (unless you don't put good guys and bad guys in), it is bound to upset people. The fun thing about Star Wars is that it doesn't take place here or now. Same goes for Dune. Red Alert may take place on earth, but that is a fight that never happened.

 

You can. It just depends on how it's done.

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Didn't you know that George Washington destroyed Napoleon's army with the help of Wellington at the battle of Essling? America is so l337, it can defeat any army even in time periods where it didn't even exist.[/sarcasm]
umm, actually America did exist in that time frame. Napoleon wasn't defeated by Wellington until about 1813, well after the Declaration of Independance was written back in 1776. :dozey:

 

still, i don't think the Americans would have had either the Army or leadership to take on Napoleon during that timespan. the American War of 1812 against the British doesn't really count for much to qualify America as a world power in that time period.

 

sorry for the clarifications. history is my minor. :xp:

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EA makes a lot games so they can make more money. They buy popular game titles and remake them and sell them to make more money. They release sequels

to their games simultaneously to make more money.

 

A simple term from all the things I typed is that they are greedy!!!!

 

for the moderators: is my avatar bad, tell me and ill change it :)

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Im not going to bother with the zOMG EA is worse than nazi germany and will cause the destruction of the human race **** which some people like to wax endless about :p

 

taking out the final fantasy and dynasty warriors series, the games on the ps2 which me and friends get together to play are EA games...mainly FIFA Soccer, NHL and Tiger Woods.... Burnout is fun too :)

 

sure, EA has a scam, being able to sell a "new game" every year, when sometimes new ones arent really that much newer(though I must admit the 2006 versions of FIFA and TW have some significant changes..) but wouldnt we all love to be in such a scam...I would - Id be able to afford a million lapdances a day ... w00t !! :p

 

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So Astrotoy7, your saying if you ran a business you'd do enough just to get by if you held a monoply?

 

Hmmm, if I remember correctly that's why people hate Microsoft. Or Microsith. Or Micro$oft.

 

That's why smaller companies games are a lot better.

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So Astrotoy7, your saying if you ran a business you'd do enough just to get by if you held a monoply?

 

excellent, youve used the key word in this whole debate... BUSINESS.

 

People who whine about EA and such make it out like games Co.s are like a freakin community service... NO, they are not, theyre a business...out to make money. If they werent making money, they wouldnt be there.

 

I work in a community service(a health service) and their isnt huge bucks in it....why ? because we need to be able to deal with and respond to everyones needs.

 

Corporations like EA arent going to sit and take notice unless their sales drop dramatically. With the type of stranglehold they have on rights and licenses, they wont need to worry about pleasing everyone for a VERY long time :)

 

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Community service? I haven't heard one argument yet wanting them to give away their games or not make a profit. It's not EAs success I have a problem with. I know more people that love them than don't.

 

I'm in favor of business 100%. . I'm a former customer who got tired of playing the same basketball game every year or in one case actually taking a step backwards. If they actually had good business practices people like myself become happy customers and not complainers

 

Hate to always bring them up but Bioware's goal for each game is to improve upon there last game.

 

To me that's a good business plan. Not saying it's easy to do. But it's good to know that some people try.

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Community service? I haven't heard one argument yet wanting them to give away their games or not make a profit. It's not EAs success I have a problem with. I know more people that love them than don't.

 

I'm in favor of business 100%. . I'm a former customer who got tired of playing the same basketball game every year or in one case actually taking a step backwards. If they actually had good business practices people like myself become happy customers and not complainers

 

Hate to always bring them up but Bioware's goal for each game is to improve upon there last game.

 

To me that's a good business plan. Not saying it's easy to do. But it's good to know that some people try.

 

I agree, it's not the business I can't stand, it's the fact that they make a basketball game, a football game, and I believe an ice hockey game every year, with hardly any changes to the one they made a year before. Mostly just updated players/teams.

 

Also if they would have would have continued the C&C series (with the same quality), instead of killing it with generals, I would have loved the games. But nooo, they had to go with more superweapons, and overpowered superweapons you can't turn off (some of them were a generals ability). C&C didn't had any overpowered superweapons, sure they had nukes, but those weren't really overpowered, and you could turn them off. I'm not a fan of a get the nuke first and you win game. Just take a look at the early westwood games. I think Emperor Battle for Dune had perfect 'superweapons' as they weren't that powerfull.

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