I watched RotS...

[Rogue15]

ewoks slowed rotj down too much. jar jar was more tolerable, but that's just me, hell at least he had a greater role.

[montnoir]

Ok, it's great that everyone tries to explain the psychology behind the Sith to explain why the villains get so little screentime and no development. As a Jedi/Sith I'm sure it's very fascinating but as a movie-goer it pretty much blows and they feel like fillers!

 

It's like: here, fear this guy, he is a badass Sith. Look at him in this cool action scene, oh, he's dead...

 

Maul had 2 spoken lines and a fight. Dooku had a couple of more lines and a fight, in #2. A single fight in #3 where he died and Grievous a few lines then died. No character development, nothing. Make them feel like shoddy fillers. They're all concept art and eye candy and nothing more. They're wasted when they could have been used.

 

After seeing Dooku survive #2 I thought, that finally we were to be given some depth to the evil characters but he died after 10 minutes after having spoken hardly 3 lines.

 

But hell, I don't watch Star Wars because of the masterful direction or because of the skilled acting. I watch them to be entertained and Maul, Dooku and Grievous entertain me quite well!

[Lynk Former]

I think it's safe to say that the prequels weren't really designed for "regular" viewing which is why it can get away with so much.

 

According to Lucas Episode 1 to 6 is one movie, watch it that way, we can now

 

Plus when I watched it was like: Well here's a bad guy, he's evil, people fear him, but I know he's not gonna survive for very long with the Jedi around. Yes there was no character development, at least not in the sense of the IMPORTANT charaacters. They're pawns, they don't need character development. It's like Boba Fett in the original movies and Jabba and Grand Moff Tarkin, they're there to play one small specific role to move the story forward for the main characters and then either move aside or die. Why? Because they're not as important as Anakin and Obi-wan and Padme and Luke and Leia and Han...

[RaV™]

I found Greivous' death quite humiliating. I mean if you watch what he does in the Clone Wars it's like nothing can stop him, but he gets two of his hands or maybe one can't remember chopped off quickly into the fight then he get's his exposed chest blown up, by two blaster bolts. Lucas made him of a weakling, but other then that the rest of the movie was terrific!

[Jeff]

But I think the movie takes priority over the clone wars miniseries

[RaV™]

Moeller that is most likely true, but I mean the Greivous battle could have been better in so many ways.

[El Sitherino]

Lucas made him of a weakling, but other then that the rest of the movie was terrific!

Or rather Obi-Wan ****ing rules.

[RaV™]

Well considering he did disfigure Darth Vader on Mustafar, but I still think the deul, well if you can call it that should have been better.

[El Sitherino]

How so? Grievous was a cyborg with no force potential. Only reason he was capable of even lasting as long as he did was because he was cybernetically enhanced. All the other jedi he killed he killed by dominating their fear and suprising them. He faced Obi-Wan with no advantage.

 

Rewatch clone wars, pay attention to what Dooku says. Those are his only tools to be anywhere near capable of facing a jedi, without them he is powerless and weak.

[RaV™]

Well The general didn't make much use of his implants, because we never did see him jump around at all, but I mean your weilding four lightsabers how the hell can you get killed that easily? I mean let's be rational, did anyone get why Greivous didn't swing the other two while he was attacking with the others? It's because Kenobi is a main character! The most influental character at that! Kenobi would have been pounded, if it wasn't like that. I mean FOUR lightsabers swinging at the same time against ONE! Get REALALISTIC! REALALISTIC!

[El Sitherino]

People have won against greater odds in real life.

[Aurora Merlow]

Without a doubt. Ali Vs Foreman, rumble in the jungle. Foreman had everything over Ali size, strength, age but Ali had brains. Greivous may have had 4 lightsabres but Obiwan had the brains and the force.

[Jeff]

Moeller that is most likely true, but I mean the Greivous battle could have been better in so many ways.

Yeah, it definitely could have been made better, I know where you're coming from. It was definitely the lamest lightsaber fight in RotS.

[TheOssusKeeper]

I watched RotS for the first time the other night, it was flippin' awesome...

 

I agree the Greivous battle could have been much better...

have you seen the animated Greivous battles from the Cartoon Network? those rock... they should've made the movie battle more like the toon version battle...

[El Sitherino]

they should've made the movie battle more like the toon version battle...

Uh... no they shouldn't have. That is without a doubt one of the most retarded things I've ever heard on these forums.

[TheOssusKeeper]

Uh... no they shouldn't have. That is without a doubt one of the most retarded things I've ever heard on these forums.

 

why so?

 

if they had made Greivous more challenging, it would've been a better battle.

[lukeiamyourdad]

why so?

 

if they had made Greivous more challenging, it would've been a better battle.

 

 

Because he wasn't?

 

A "Clone Wars Cartoon" style battle would look horrible with real actors.

[Jeff]

I think it added to his character as a coward that he was not as strong as he was in the cartoon. That is how he was meant to be portrayed in the movie, as a coward, and I think they did it effectively. His sickness/coughing added to that.

[TheOssusKeeper]

you peeps mis-understand...

 

it could have been more challeging, it was way to easy for 'ol ben to take down greivous... they could've added a couple more jedi to the mix, made greivous a tougher opponent...

[RaV™]

You can really tell the Kenobi lovers from people who aren't so crazy about them, but anyway Greivous looked pathetic plain and simple they've should of made that duel more effective, not just him getting shot twice in his very vunerable chest twice and crumble over and die. I mean if they brought over his coughing from when Mace Windu struck him in the Clone Wars on CN how come they can't bring over his fighting?

[TheOssusKeeper]

I think it added to his character as a coward that he was not as strong as he was in the cartoon. That is how he was meant to be portrayed in the movie, as a coward, and I think they did it effectively. His sickness/coughing added to that.

 

if his whole persona was to be cowardly, then why make him a tough sob in the toon?

[Jeff]

if his whole persona was to be cowardly, then why make him a tough sob in the toon?

You'd have to ask George that question

 

Look at the movie though, he ran away all the time. He ran away from the Jedi on his ship, and he ran away when Obi-Wan defeated him in lightsaber combat.

 

And RotS>Clone Wars Cartoon

[TheOssusKeeper]

You'd have to ask George that question

 

Look at the movie though, he ran away all the time. He ran away from the Jedi on his ship, and he ran away when Obi-Wan defeated him in lightsaber combat.

 

And RotS>Clone Wars Cartoon

 

maybe his fighting ability deminished after Mace struck in the toon, and his illness prevented him from being a better fighter. And because of this illness, it wasn't cowardice, it was self preservation. just a guess.

[Jeff]

Your guess is as good as any.

 

Except for mine

 

And George Lucas' XP

[RaV™]

Thats an nice theory Ossus, but I mean a cough shouldn't be able to diminish ones fighting and lightsaber style, but the cough didn't stop him from running away from Kenobi after his hands were severed.