Perhaps the dumbest thing the politicians could ever come up with

[RevanA4]

click here

 

and here

 

what manner of blasphemy is this

[CrimeScene]

Yes with all the probloms in the world lets fight over the internet,GOd forbid the UN should do something real for a change.

 

I wish the UN would do something so bad that we boot them out of NYC and leave the charter to fend for them selfs.

 

CrimeScene

[RevanA4]

O.o

 

this just in CONTROLING THE INTERNET IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!

 

that is all

 

wtf they need to get there heads out of the bums and focus on the real problems of the world >_>

[El Sitherino]

GOd forbid the UN should do something real for a change.

God forbid you get an education.

 

this just in CONTROLING THE INTERNET IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!

You can control it at the root. They could, and intend to, remove the anonymity factor as well as add censorship. That is if they get a hold of it, which I hope they don't.

[Jeff]

That is if they get a hold of it, which I hope they don't.

And I have to agree with you here.

[El Sitherino]

Though now that I think about it, we're also facing similiar issues from the U.S. Government as well. But I have a feeling all attempts to censor will fail.

[Darth InSidious]

Heh. Suuuuure. Controlling the internet would be like nailing a jelly to a wall....

[Vladimir-Vlada]

The explanation for the problems with the hierarchy system worry me a bit. I think that they're exagerating about that, they just have to create new hierarchy systems; they don't need to control the entire net to maintain control.

 

And who says that there will be fights if we don't get the 'IBM.com' we wanted to visit and get a Indian (for example) one instead? That is a bit annyoing, yes, but to fight about it? That's a bit over-exagerating.

 

Now, I agree about the context of censorship (to a certain level), perhaps they can censor XXX sites and so. But they don't need absolute control to do it. Otherwise, I don't quite agree with it.

 

Overall: It can't be that bad. Unless they start to use the Internet as a way for distributing propaganda against China, Russia; the Eastern European and the Middle Eastern countries. I doubt that the last thing would happen, but even if it does, you can dump Internet before you even pour yourself a glass of apple juice.

[El Sitherino]

Now, I agree about the context of censorship (to a certain level), perhaps they can censor XXX sites and so. But they don't need absolute control to do it. Otherwise, I don't quite agree with it.

That kinda defeats the purpose of pornography...

 

Overall: It can't be that bad. Unless they start to use the Internet as a way for distributing propaganda against China, Russia; the Eastern European and the Middle Eastern countries.

Yes, because people don't already do that.

 

Point is, censoring the internet kinda defeats the things existence. It's supposed to be a means of free communication. As in no one can tell you what and what not to say/do with your own connection to the internet.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Point is, censoring the internet kinda defeats the things existence. It's supposed to be a means of free communication. As in no one can tell you what and what not to say/do with your own connection to the internet.

 

I agree. The internet, with various blogs and forums, has been devoid of censorship for a while now. That gave everyone the opportunity to express themselves without fear of public or media retaliation. Up to recent times, trying to spread your thoughts and ideas was impossible to the common man. The freedom of the internet allowed the smallest man to have a voice in his community.

Censoring it would be the worst thing you can do. Yes, you censor the "bad" stuff but you'll touch the good stuff too. Next thing you know, we'll all be arrested for speaking our mind on the internet.

 

Frankly, people can be their own censors. Do you need the government to tell you not to do a google porn search? No. Do you need the government to tell you not to visit a pro-Al-Qaida site? No. Well, the latter is different, they put you under surveillance, but that's another discussion.

[Vladimir-Vlada]

Point is, censoring the internet kinda defeats the things existence. It's supposed to be a means of free communication. As in no one can tell you what and what not to say/do with your own connection to the internet.

In my opinion, as long as you can read the books you want, watch the films and cartoons you want, think what you would like to think and make things you like to make; everything is fine.

 

So if you get under survaillance from the goverment when you're on the Internet, grab a book, pour some apple juice, watch some cartoons and once in a while, read a chapter of the book you took. (That's what I do when I'm borred at any rate)

[RevanA4]

In my opinion, as long as you can read the books you want, watch the films and cartoons you want, think what you would like to think and make things you like to make; everything is fine.

 

So if you get under survaillance from the goverment when you're on the Internet, grab a book, pour some apple juice, watch some cartoons and once in a while, read a chapter of the book you took. (That's what I do when I'm borred at any rate)

 

*wonders if he realizes teh government already does that*

 

WFT you can't go look at any book you want since 9/11 or you'll have the feds on you butt >_> and screw cartoons I'll stick to anime thank you.

[Vladimir-Vlada]

*wonders if he realizes teh government already does that*

Well, the thing is we live in different countries. My country is one of the poorest in the world and one of the least developed ones (even though UN, EU and the USA bully us every 5 days), and the goverment can hardly even maintain the army, I don't think that that is the case here.

 

And as long as they don't sue you or arrest you, you'll be fine.

 

WFT you can't go look at any book you want since 9/11 or you'll have the feds on you butt >_>

Huh? They banned books???

 

and screw cartoons I'll stick to anime thank you

They're bassicly the same thing, you know.

[Hallucination]

@Revan:Remember that theres more than the just americans chatting on this forum. Your goverment might do that, but his might not. And I don't think books are illeagal in the U.S. And yes, controlling the internet is evil.

[Vladimir-Vlada]

^^Remember that theres more than the just americans chatting on this forum. Your goverment might do that, but his might not. And yes, controlling the internet is evil.

What does my goverment do? Sorry, I didn't really understand what were you implying to; can you explain me please? And controlling the internet is stupid, useless and a waste of time, energy and resources.

[Hallucination]

^^I was still reading when you posted. It was direct at Revan, sorry for the confusion.

[El Sitherino]

In my opinion, as long as you can read the books you want, watch the films and cartoons you want, think what you would like to think and make things you like to make; everything is fine.

 

So if you get under survaillance from the goverment when you're on the Internet, grab a book, pour some apple juice, watch some cartoons and once in a while, read a chapter of the book you took. (That's what I do when I'm borred at any rate)

Uh... you seem to not realize the point.

 

I think since you obviously lack the ability to grasp the situation, you should probably not talk in this thread anymore. Anyway, this has nothing to do with boredom, this is about that under guidelines the UN and U.S. Government would like to make means we cannot say what we want, infact they could make it illegal for you to talk to me about books, it might interfere with the way the government wants to educate me.

[SITHSLAYER133]

bah its utter nonsnse but i would like to see them actualy try it would be hilarious stupid

[RevanA4]

Huh? They banned books???

 

nope in the US the feds can at will pull your library record to see what books you have been reading. heck they even can pull your isp records and see what you have been doing on the net

 

>_>

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

The U.N couldn't do so. It's not in their power, since they have none. Every country in the world has a right to their decisions, as there is no global force to enforce anything, just countries that agree with each other to do something, like clean-up time in pre-schools. Also, the internet isn't a tangible thing, it's every computer on it, but it's not on any computer or server. Besides, it was a US Department of Defense project and we haven't listened to the U.N. Ever.

 

Also, I've done my homework on the PATRIOT act (it's an acronym for something-or-other), it apparently violates all but 2 US Constitutional amendments, the one about guns and the one about the voting age. Therefore, don't move, your movements may be considered hostile by the surveillance team looking over your shoulder

 

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=websense_banned

[Darth InSidious]

In my opinion, as long as you can read the books you want, watch the films and cartoons you want, think what you would like to think and make things you like to make; everything is fine.

 

So if you get under survaillance from the goverment when you're on the Internet, grab a book, pour some apple juice, watch some cartoons and once in a while, read a chapter of the book you took. (That's what I do when I'm borred at any rate)

 

 

But don't you see? This is the slippery slope to an Orwellian Big Brother dictatorship. First the internet, then everything else, and finally your thoughts. Over here, an 80-year-old was arrested at the Labour Party Conference for "terrorism", after he shouted "Nonsense!" at Tony Bliar! Five years ago I would have told you you were joking if you told me that. Now....

 

Edith: Oops, I forgot: "Hail Blair!"

[Vladimir-Vlada]

I think since you obviously lack the ability to grasp the situation, you should probably not talk in this thread anymore. Anyway, this has nothing to do with boredom, this is about that under guidelines the UN and U.S. Government would like to make means we cannot say what we want, infact they could make it illegal for you to talk to me about books, it might interfere with the way the government wants to educate me.

Oh, sorry. I didn't put it the correct way, what I was going to say.

 

I was meaning to say that it's not worth it to try and think that UN has gone too far this time, because it is obvious that UN and the EU is being lead, mostly, by a bunch of pompous jerks and morons. Do you really think that they will do it, and if they do, that they will be able to keep it under control? They can't even spell right, much less control something they made.

 

The only thing they know how to do is bully my country and my nationality for no apperent reason at all (and if you find a reason, DON'T believe it, it's pure propaganda).

 

And also they said that IF they even do agree that such thing should be done. And we all know how thye tend to get tackky when it comes to these things. So apparently, it is doubtful that they will even do such a thing, because they are intolerant jerks.

 

But if they do such a thing, we could start protesting, boycotting the internet, making our own servers and so on. Acctuely I would do all of the metioned things.

 

But don't you see? This is the slippery slope to an Orwellian Big Brother dictatorship. First the internet, then everything else, and finally your thoughts.

I would gladly lead a Rebellion if that happens.

 

Edith: Oops, I forgot: "Hail Blair!"

ROFL! Another " 'Allo, 'allo' " fan.

 

I hate Tony Blair. During 1999, he was one of the generals that was leading the bombardments against my country, he blew up a hospital close to my mother's hospital when she was pregnant with my brother. I was 9 at the time.

 

I wish to see Blair apologising to everyone in the world...

 

Fon Strom: Hail Blair!

Gering: 'Air!

[Hallucination]

I know this is off topic, but did you say blow up a hospital? As in filled with doctors and nurses and sick people?

[Vladimir-Vlada]

Yes, the hospital blew up. Luckily, not many people were in there, but still at least 20 died; some were even pregnant women.

 

* Let's a tear out of his eye in the honor of the dead ones... *

 

I remember a lot of other buildings were blown up. As far as I recall, in Belgrade:

 

1 hospital (theone I mentioned)

6 solitaires

The National TV station

The Main World-Wide Telecommunications tower which allowed the communication between cities and so.

 

And last, but not the least:

The Academy of Science and Art

 

On-topic: Controlling the Internet is as stupid as banning cars.

[Emperor Devon]

Heh. Outlawing abortions, making killing a pregnant woman count as murdering two people, giving the U.N. control of the internet... some people have WAY too much time on their hands.