Arreat Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/21/technology/playstation_fortune_112805 Sony will sucker millions of people into thinking they are getting a $2000 Blu-Ray drive for $300-400, much like they did with the DVD drive in PS2 only not to that expensive an extent. And not that you won't be getting a great Blu-Ray drive and it will be a terrific deal over buying a stand alone BR ROM player. Looks like Sony will be taking the position that XBox once has, same price and supposedly better graphics. I'll be picking up a 360 only because it has better FPS games ( Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero) Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Well, seeing that it is the CEO of Sony, I guess it's official enough. Though the words "sucker millions of people into thinking" seem a little suspicious. >_> Let's see: Cell processer, 2 $500 video cars, $2000 Blu-Ray drive... Seems a little like suicide to me, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Sell at a loss? How much? My God, those things won't be cheap to produce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 They're sony! F*** Pants! But seriously, I don't see how they could do that, other than because they're sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Near as I can figure, production costs for a PS3 have to be over 800 dollars. Sony is out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Better for them to confirm an overall price now, leaves time for people to save up or dig into their lifesavings. The thing with Sony is that once they figure out that they're not the most liked flavour anymore (and it will happen), they're gonna get soooooo burned once they've realised that making consoles at a loss is gonna drive them further into debt. At the moment with their current momentum they have nothing to worry about, but the only way from here is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Wow, CNN.com just announced that Howard Stringer is a chain smokin psycho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I like not being a part of the console craze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Um...it probably won't cost Sony that much to mass produce the systems. The whole capatilist thing and all - it usually only costs the companys a fraction of what it costs the consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Except production cost will be a minimum of $800 dollars due to the tech required to create the PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Remember that the PS3 is using new technologies and they're always expensive initially. Sony plans to be the first with the most powerful hardware out there and ride it out for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I'll laugh though if Blu-ray fails like betamax, Sony'd probably die at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 It's a dangerous gamble, and it'll certainly be interesting to see how it plays out in the end. I don't think they would do it if they didn't assume to make a profit off the venture. Still, maybe I'm putting too much faith in Sony. Time will tell, regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Remember that the PS3 is using new technologies and they're always expensive initially. Sony plans to be the first with the most powerful hardware out there and ride it out for 10 years. 10 years? I don't think so mister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I would laugh my ass off at all the PS2 fanbois While I come across as an Xbox fanboy, I'm really not, I also play my gamecube alot, and sometimes borrow my cousins PS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I'll laugh though if Blu-ray fails like betamax, Sony'd probably die at that point. I'm confident that Blu ray will do fine, mainly because of Sony and the PS3. The PS2 certainly didn't hurt dvd sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I'm confident that Blu ray will do fine, mainly because of Sony and the PS3. The PS2 certainly didn't hurt dvd sales. But that was way after DVD was the selected format. As it stands right now, HD-DVD seems like it may win out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 But that was way after DVD was the selected format. PS2 was the first DVD player I, and many people I know ever owned, because at the time, it was a cheap way to get a DVD player. They weren't 20-40 bucks a pop like they are now. In fact, I had no interest in owning a DVD player at all until I decided to get a PS2, as I'm sure was the case for many other people. You couldn't give away a DVD in Japan until Sony released PS2. So maybe history will repeat itself. But to be frank, I don't care about what it'll play other than games. I'm getting it for games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 @ TiE²³: But that is Sony's plan, they've said it before that they're gonna make this console last for as long as possible. And about PS2 and DVD. The PS2 has always been a terrible DVD player, one of the worst you can get in fact. DVDs didn't take off because of the PS2, it took off because movie companies switched from making VHS tapes to make DVD discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 And about PS2 and DVD. The PS2 has always been a terrible DVD player, one of the worst you can get in fact. DVDs didn't take off because of the PS2, it took off because movie companies switched from making VHS tapes to make DVD discs. Okay, once more. PS2 isn't responsible for DVD alone. But when it was released, the PS2 was a cheap alternative to standard DVD players. I never said it was a good DVD player either, but I'd wager it was a better DVD player than the Gamecube. PS2 doubling as a DVD player didn't hurt DVD sales. It's not like DVD's were huge already when PS2 came out. And lots of movies are still released on VHS, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 And about PS2 and DVD. The PS2 has always been a terrible DVD player, one of the worst you can get in fact. DVDs didn't take off because of the PS2, it took off because movie companies switched from making VHS tapes to make DVD discs. PS2 didn't "make" dvd a winning format - for one thing it wasn't exactly competing with anything else - but it did help the momentum by putting a cheap dvd player in a lot of homes... at a time when they cost several hundred pounds each. That said, the PS2 was a pants dvd player, and within a few months you could buy better stand alone dvd players for £40 in the shops. Still, reality and perception are two different things, and the peception that you are getting more value by getting a games console and DVD/Blueray player is a powerful one... even if in the long run you don't end up liking or using the "free" player. All the independent analysts I have read seem to theink blueray is by far the favourite - but then a lot of them are placing a lot of value on the PS3 factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 So your point is the PS2 plays DVDs and the GameCube doesn't?... Obviously the PS2 didn't HURT DVD sales, that would be pretty impossible, but it was clearly suggested earlier in the thread that the PS2 had a big and in brining forth DVDs which isn't true. It is true that Sony included the ability to play back DVD movies on the PS2 because they wanted to further a format they had invested in, but when it comes down to it, the movie makers are the ones who ultimately brought it forward. On the other hand... The PS3, if Bluray is successful, will be the flagship and will take a far more important role than the PS2 ever did with DVDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 The $300-$400 statement is incorrect. Correction: An earlier version of this story appeared with statements erroneously attributed to Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony Corporation, regarding pricing and availability of the PS3. Stringer has not commented publicly on how much the PS3 is expected to cost, or how soon it will appear in the US after the Japanese launch in spring 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 PS2 helped dvd sales (in a small way) and DVD helped PS2 sales (in a small way) but in the end neither was that crucial to the other. And the combination turned out to be not that great anyway. DVD didn't have a competing format to worry about, so PS3 may have a bigger effect this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxStar Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Um...it probably won't cost Sony that much to mass produce the systems. Its the miracles of child labor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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