Tysyacha Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 ...did Darth Vader have several Dark Jedi in his service, or not? They may not have been Sith, because they were of lower rank than Vader and the Emperor, but did they exist, at least?
Rogue15 Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 Mara Jade, as far as I know, but she was trained by Emperor Palpatine as an assassin.
woogiee Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 I dont think Vader had any in HIS service, but the Emperor did. I know its not cannon but my Jedi in Star Wars Galaxies was RP'd as an assassin for the Emperor
MachineCult Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 Like woogiee said, it isn't known if Vader had any but the Emperor did, as seen in Jedi Knight, a Dark Jedi was General of an Imperial fleet.
Hayden Kered Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 Lumiya> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lumiya She was not Vader's apprentice but he did train her as one.
Darth InSidious Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 There were several of the Emperor's Hands/assassins, but whether they even count as Dark Jedi...I got the feeling that they were more Dark Force Users...Not powerful enough to be called Dark Jedi...Palpatine was rather paranoid.
Hayden Kered Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 There were several of the Emperor's Hands/assassins, but whether they even count as Dark Jedi...I got the feeling that they were more Dark Force Users...Not powerful enough to be called Dark Jedi...Palpatine was rather paranoid. I'll agree to this, Palpatine never allowed Vader to have an apprentice of his own. Just like he told Anakin in ROTS, "all who gain power are afraid to lose it".
Tysyacha Posted June 7, 2006 Author Posted June 7, 2006 Rats. There goes my idea of co-writing a first-person Vader-era novel from the point of view of a Force User/Dark Jedi "In Vader's Service." P.S. The other author would be my teacher/Master on both counts, both when I was a Jedi and when I fell to the Dark Side.
Point Man Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Rats. There goes my idea of co-writing a first-person Vader-era novel from the point of view of a Force User/Dark Jedi "In Vader's Service." P.S. The other author would be my teacher/Master on both counts, both when I was a Jedi and when I fell to the Dark Side. Write it anyway. It sounds like a good idea for a story. The Star Wars universe is full of contradictions. Besides, just because the movies don't show it does not mean it can't exist.
Sabretooth Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 No, no in the movies but it's there in the borderline-canon crap-pile we call the Expanded Universe. I don't choose to believe it.
Darth Methos Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 ...did Darth Vader have several Dark Jedi in his service, or not? They may not have been Sith, because they were of lower rank than Vader and the Emperor, but did they exist, at least? Please forgive. I have never read a Extended Universe book. I have heard that the Crimson Guard were Sith. Am I wrong?
CapNColostomy Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 No, no in the movies but it's there in the borderline-canon crap-pile we call the Expanded Universe. I don't choose to believe it. But you do "believe" in the events that transpire in the films? Because I always thought that it was all fiction...*shrugs*
Sabretooth Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 But you do "believe" in the events that transpire in the films? Because I always thought that it was all fiction...*shrugs* *sniff* The guy did say it happened a long time ago in a galaxy far away... *cries*
Jae Onasi Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 Rats. There goes my idea of co-writing a first-person Vader-era novel from the point of view of a Force User/Dark Jedi "In Vader's Service." P.S. The other author would be my teacher/Master on both counts, both when I was a Jedi and when I fell to the Dark Side. I say go for it. The movies don't say that he _doesn't_ have something like this. The only thing I'll say is that having written my fic in 1st person, I dearly wish I'd done it in 3rd person, because 3rd gives a lot more freedom. I've had to do much more plot and dialog engineering in first person than I would have had to do in 3rd, and sometimes that's presented some unique challenges.
Inyri Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 Those challenges can be part of the fun of writing in first person. It does give a story an entirely new dimension that's not there in third-person literature, which can either be a good or bad thing dependant on how skilled the writer is. Tysyacha, if you don't intend to have your story jumping from the perspective of this apprentice to others, or don't intend to include scenes where this apprentice is not present, then I'd say run with the first person. It could certainly make for a very interesting account. "A day in the life of Lord Vader's apprentice" .
RC-1162 Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 actually, if youve read "the Crystal Star" then you'll know that vader trained two Firrerro to be dark jedi. they were Hethrir and Rillao. hethrir passed his exams and was a darksider Rillao was too kind hearted so hethrir (her husband\) left her
Ztalker Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 ^ ^ i didn't know that...i was led to believe that Vader was the military leader of the Empire, with Siddious on the background training Mara Jade etc. In the Heir of the Empire-books, Grand Admiral Thrawn mentions that Darth Vader was supposed to lead the defense of the second Death Star, and failed. He claims that it was Vader to blame for the loss of the Executor and all the other ships. From that, i concluded for myself that DV was more of a military guy...
RC-1162 Posted June 10, 2006 Posted June 10, 2006 hes more of a warrior. vader wasnt supposed to take part in the battle of endor, he was just to give the order to scramble the TIEs.
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