urluckyday Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I've always wondered something. What is so wrong with the Special and DVD versions of Star Wars? I mean it is pretty cool to get a nostalgic feel when watching the "original" Star Wars episodes, but I think that the DVD versions are just as great as the "originals". I don't know about you, but I love them either way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RellikRats Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hear, hear. Fanboys who get their panties all in a wad over George's "greedy sacrilege" or whatever-the-heck need to just relax a little bit and enjoy the ride. However, you do have to credit them for the release of the originals this coming fall, although some of them are even griping about that because it's not being done in exactly the very specific and totally the only possible freakin' way they wanted. Whatever. There's no pleasing some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 The versions I have are between '77 and the Special Editions, so I've grown up with those. Since some of the DVD changes sound odd (Han not shooting first, weird saber colors), I guess I would say the orignals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 A few things, like Han shooting first, are cooler in the originals. Also, they totally f***ed up the sabers in the DVD versions. We see Vader with a pink saber at various points, and even though these new blades are supposed to be more liek the prequel sabers, they are frequently assymmetric (the blade doesn't line up w/ the glow). Last, of course, is the inclusion of Hayden Christianson at the end of ROTJ, a decision which does not make sense in terms of the story. Furthermore, Hayden doesn't deserve to be in one of the better movies. I believe these are the primary gripes, and they are perhaps the only things I would like changed about the DVD version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RellikRats Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Heh, and I was so disappointed in the way Sebastian Shaw looked that I would have accepted almost anyone George decided to put in his place in the SE... Buddy Hackett Jonathan Winters Arnold Schwarzenegger The Elephant Man Anyone. Hayden worked just fine for me, although they could've made him look a bit older, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I agree, RellikRats. I have yet to hear a good reason that Shaw is better than Hayden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Well, I like the original more definitely. That having said, I do enjoy the enhanced graphics(like the touched up rancor) and outside footage on the planets, as well as some of the recoloring. I do not enjoy the "altering" stuff, like the crawling Jabba and new dancers, and I don't even want to mention Greedo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-O Kreesh Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I grew up with the original '77 versions. But I also like the updated "Special" editions. George could put out 5 versions of these films and I would still buy them...oh wait, he has put out 5 versions already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 Hayden is perfectly fine at the end. I mean either Shaw or Hayden is fine...they both work...Hayden was the embodiment of good Vader, but so was Shaw at the very end...it really doesn't matter too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woogiee Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 im not exactly easy to entertain ooo look a blue droid (10 points if you catch the reference) but I like both versions. though Im not sure I want to spend $30 for 2 versions of 1 of the OT movies, 1 of which i just bought last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Have not seen the new versions, so my vore go to the old ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 See the new ones too...good stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 To be honest. I think George is getting too money hungry. I am not a fan of all the edits to the Special Eddition, but I do like how he fixed them up. Sweet! I didn't like Shaw being replaced by Hayden, and I found no logical reasoning for it. I am not a big fan of Haydens, and I am not going to be one any time soon. I also didn't like Greedo shooting first, nor did I like the 'Little Shop of Horrors' head in the Sarlac. Everything else was pretty cool. My only problem with this mess is that George is releasing another set of his movies. If I knew he was going to re-release the 1977 version, I would have not bought the Special Edittion. It was a known factor that George added the Ewoks to Return of the Jedi, so he can sell merchandise to kids. I think he still carries the same mantality today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Hayden being there makes about as much sense as Shaw, Shaw ain't Vader, thus he isn't Anakin, Hayden is Anakin, and he was Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nostelgic reasons. Remember, I did not say there was anything wrong with the films. I did say I prefer preserving certain nostelgic elements of Episode IV,V, and VI Lets see who played Darth Vader: Episode III: Hayden Christensen (For five seconds) Episode IV, V, and VI: David Prowse (For 3 Movies. Except for Stunts.) James Earl Jones (Played Darth Vader. The Voice. 4 Movies.) Bob Anderson (Vader’s fighting for 3 movies.) Episode VI: Shaw (For 5 seconds.) Lets see who played Anakin Skywalker: Episode I: Jake Lloyd (For one movie) Episode II & III: Hayden Christensen (For 2 whole movies) Episode VI: Shaw (For 5 seconds.) From where I stand, I don't see why Shaw was replaced by Hayden. The character didn't have one solid actor the whole time. Maybe it should have been James Earl Jones. I just don't see any logic in changing the force ghost to Hayden. We could go back to Episode I-III, and change the actors heads to a digital younger David Prowse. Remember, Shaw also wore the Vader outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 I don't have a favorite really. I like them all for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 He doesnt want to forget about it...he wants to make it better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I'd say the special editions since I haven't seen the unaltered versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Where have you been? Home. School. Where else? I'm 15 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 What if George decided in about twenty years to change Hayden's face in Episode II and III to a digitally younger David Prowse (The Original Darth Vader)? Would you be upset? Think about it this way: Several of us have been bourght up with the original cut of Star Wars for 30 years. One day, George decided to make tweaks to his films. After making several cool tweaks, he also managed to make some argumental tweaks. The movie that I grew up with no longer exists. The movie that I fell to admire for its place in film history has been overhauled in a way that is indifferent. If the Star Wars saga was built from Episode I - VI, from the very beginning, I would probally not like the franchise. Episode I-III don't sit well with me. When it comes to George making changes to Episode IV-VI, this ultimately changes the story I grew up with. From my perspective: Luke Skywalker & Han Solo are at the center of Star Wars. To everyone who did not see the original 1977 cut, they see Anikan Skywalker at the center of Star Wars. Boba Fett is a prime example of another change, which I honestly didn't want to see happen. I felt that seeing Boba Fett as a child ruined my perspective of him. I rather think he is ruthless, but now I see him as a cheap kid in a bounty hunters suit looking for revenge. Mediclorians (sp?) are another example of horrible changes to the story. I grew up with the force being an energy filed, which a human can summons and control. Now, that idea was crushed by the medaclorians. Grrr.... Princes Leia's story is intresting. She was the only one who remembered what her mothers face looked like. Episode III messed that logic up. A five minute old baby will not remember the events that occur at the time. I personally thought Leia was brought up for a few years or so by her mother, and Luke was seperated from them to protect them fromVader. Combined, they act like a force beacon, which Vader could find and locate. Seperately, the force would bee too weak for Vader to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Well you better get yourself copies of the original cuts and see what awesome really means. I intend to when they are released on DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I indeed to when tey are released on DVD. You'll hate the end of ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 You'll hate the end of ROTJ. Why's that? I think it's amazing in both versions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 He's younger than me FFS, he'll think it's childish and inappropriate and he'll be glad that it was changed, and then he will try to forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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