dewayne26 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 i know there so many hints that your Revan. but one just hit me dead on..i should noted it earlier. but Vrook all but tell you in coucil meeting with you. what if we train this one and the dark lord should return. that almost give it away if you pating attention. that and the visions. which even before i got far into the game i was wondering bout them. i thought to myself why is my character seeing Revan. but i was curious did anybody i see something but it didn't click until the next play thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 i had a litle suspicion when Vrook said "and the dark lord should return". i was wondering, why is he accusing me of bringing back Revan? then i thought of the possibilty that Revan might me either me or one of my party. but what i thought after that was: Nah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone L68362 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Yeah, that one line is way too obvious, but I still never really caught it in my first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewayne26 Posted July 6, 2006 Author Share Posted July 6, 2006 lol hoonestly until later my play thru i thought bastila was Revan at Juhani:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Yeah, that dialoug always annoys me. And you should see it at the flashback, when you relise you are Revan, but you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 First time i heard the line I thought he meant "If this one becauses a Jedi and Revan returns will he be trained enough to be able to with stand maybe being captured and turned to the dark side". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVandar205 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I think it could be assumed early on that the player character saw Revan because of his force connection with Bastila and since her encounter with Revan was such a powerful and recent memory. Also it could be assumed that the force wanted the player to see Revan because of the possibility of an upcoming duel with him and because its linked with his destiny and has to do with the whole star forge/star map thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrVorlon Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I thought we were going to have to fight Revan. I took Vrook's words, "and the dark lord should return," as a foreshadowing of an event to come. It so common to talk about a supposedly dead character, and then at the end he is revealed to not only be alive but is also the mastermind of every event the main character has been through. So I am fully expecting a showdown with Revan. Hell, there was a time I thought Bastila was Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewayne26 Posted July 8, 2006 Author Share Posted July 8, 2006 I thought we were going to have to fight Revan. I took Vrook's words, "and the dark lord should return," as a foreshadowing of an event to come. It so common to talk about a supposedly dead character, and then at the end he is revealed to not only be alive but is also the mastermind of every event the main character has been through. So I am fully expecting a showdown with Revan. Hell, there was a time I thought Bastila was Revan. Â i know thought she was too it be great plot twist find out she a true siith posing as a jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davinq Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Yeah, that one line struck me right away. Â I never liked Vrook, specially in TSL, he's such a cynicist of your actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 ^^^ I didn't care much for Vrook myself. After the first couple of dialogs with him I was thinking,"Why doesn't he like the PC?" Then of course shortly after the Leviathan I realized why. Â But yeah, for my first KotOR play through I didn't catch on that my PC was Revan until it was actually revealed. It was cool to be surprised like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feagildin Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 There's a dialogue between vrook and vandar that's even worse, depending on what you say. I forget how it goes, but vandar starts saying something about the ds, and vrook cuts him off. I never liked Vrook. He's way to grumpy to be a Jedi Master. grumpy is an emotion, after all. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast-Thrasher Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I never caught on until it was revieled on the Leviathan. When it happened my mouth just dropped, I was like HOLY...WOW, got off my chair and I explained what happened to my dad and he just looks at me really wierd and goes ok... then I realized wow big nerd moment but it was still sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 i played kotor after the sith lords, so i was kind of expecting that i would turn out to be revan due to all the fuss that was made about him/her in TSL, otherwise i was thinking all the fuss about a dead dude - for me it was confirmed when carth an bastilian talked about the force doing terrible things to a mind, then bastilia going on about turning an enemey to your side - its a shame i couldnt of played it before TSL - then i would of been like wow! i never saw that coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*bAsTiLaJeEdAi* Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I had no idea that the 'Padawan' was Revan. I guess I sort of was not paying much attention to every detail because I was so excited about getting off Taris the first time I played. Seriously it took me forEVER! And the other times I played I skipped through most of the dialogue. Feagildin I agree. I dont like Vrook either. He is a sanctimonious schmuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I'm like most of you. I couldn't stand Vrook. I kept wishing I could destroy him for fun and it be part of the game plot. So naturally when TSL came out.... Â *You get the idea* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 heh, i DLed the training arena mod that takes you in the duel ring and where you can choose your training opponent. K1. i always choose the group that Vrook is in, and kill him using only Force powers and i don't think there is anybody who likes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandrak Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 heh, i DLed the training arena mod that takes you in the duel ring and where you can choose your training opponent. K1. i always choose the group that Vrook is in, and kill him using only Force powers and i don't think there is anybody who likes him.  I love Vrook, he's the best character in the entire game, Just Kidding  Vrook is the annoying, and i agree he is too grumpy to be a jedi master, i think he could have secretly been a sith lord, anyway...  I thought i was revan right after I was told by Malak and Bastila. I guess i should have seen it but I didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Lightning Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 It came as a shock to me when I found out i was Reven. Guess I wasn't paying attention enough to figure it out for myself! Anyway... Vrook. The most annoying Jedi there is in the game. Reminds me of Mace Windu, always arguing with you about decisions/actions. Still, we need a Jedi like that once in a while, don't you think. I was glad to finally kill him in number 2 however! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Mace is teh kewlness of the Jedi Order, man! what are you thinking? Vrook is an idiot who doesnt like anything you do. i wish the game was a virtual reality game, then i could go and kick his a$$ hard. and he wouldnt do anything to me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Lightning Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Mace is teh kewlness of the Jedi Order, man! what are you thinking? Vrook is an idiot who doesnt like anything you do. i wish the game was a virtual reality game, then i could go and kick his ass hard. and he wouldnt do anything to me too Don't get me wrong, I'm also a big Mace fan. I mean towards Anakin, he didn't seem to like him much, and he was also the one who said Anakin shouldn't be trained. Vrook is the same; he didn't want Revan trained as a Jedi when Bastilla brough him to the Jedi council. Other than that, I think Mace is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 yeah, i guess that's the only similarity. but Mace did that because he sensed great problems in the future, or something like that. Vrook refused the training because he was just plain scared that Revan would return. what a wimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleOfHarpenden Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 ye but to be fair revan could have destroyed the republic with ease but for some reason revan saw a much larger picture than Malak ever did or the Emparor for that matter all they wanted was to be the most powerful(idiots) ye first time through i was so shocked that i was revna on second time throught i was like omg i'm such an idiot i think the thing about Vrook is that i didnt liston to him he's such a loser i just didnt care what he thought, i loved it when i could kill him in TSL i kept playing it(i use whirlwind then lightning great combo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi3112 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 IMO Vrook's line doesn't give it all away all by itself. However combined with all the other hints it does give it all away. And there's the whole Revan did this, Revan did that talk. That's way too much dialog concerning a dead character. I mean, suppose you're not Revan, in that case all that dialog is irrelevant and Revan would have pretty much the same relevance as Exar-Kun. We don't see the same amount of dialog spend on Exar, now do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davinq Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Good point jedi, but yet during our first playthrough we still had no idea, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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