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Bioware isnt making it, so it probably has to be either obsidian or lucasarts. Between the two, I would definately have Obsidian do it. Kotor 2 showed that they can handle pressure and still make a really good game. Since Kotor 3 doesn't seem like it is going to be rushed, I would like to see how well Obsidian would do if it wasn't being rushed by Lucasarts.

 

I would rather not have Lucasarts do it. They wouldnt be nearly as good as Obsidian.

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That would be at the whim of the producer, not the developer. Why everyone blames Obsidian for all of K2's shortcomings is still beyond me. They simply do what LucasArts tells them to. If that's "push for an early release because we want profits" then that's what they do, because if they don't they break their contract. :nod:

 

The last thing a new developer wants is to purposely put out a poor product. It gives them a bad name. Obsidian isn't stupid, they were simply doing what LA told them to, which is a shame as it made certain people think it was Obsidian's fault. I'm fairly confident that NWN2 will prove that Obsidian is not only quite able to put out a good product, but that they are quite up to bar with BioWare. BioWare would not have handed them K2 if they were not.

They had a deadline. They didn't meet it. Some of the blame should be placed on them as well.

 

 

Personally, I don't give a damn who develops the game so long as they keep with the style of the last two and are able to incorporate everything the writers envision into the game.

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the same tech-demo that obviously isn't for kotor...but Star Wars 2007. :rolleyes:

 

Yes, but so what?

 

2007 is close as gaming schedules go, and gaming engines can be used in multiple games.

 

I sincerely doubt that KotOR3 is being worked on right now for an early 2007 release, because we would have heard something about it by now, if that were the case. We haven't even heard that it's going to be made at all.

 

If KotOR3 happens, I doubt we'll see before mid-2007 at earliest anyway (and 2008 sounds more plausible to me), so I could easily see the engine used for both games.

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Ok then, I agree with you. So I was wondering, what if Lionhead did k3? Anybody remember the sucess that was Fable?

I could live with Lionhead doing it. I liked a lot of things with Fable: The Lost Chapters. Real time aging of your character was pretty cool (although I think the game aged you too quickly). Bethesda (the makers of The Elder Scrolls series) could handle it, but they do more open-ended stuff. I don't know if they would want to handle something so story-driven as the KOTOR series.

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Lionhead COULD do it, but I don't think that they're even in the running for it.

Bioware WON'T do it, because they passed TSL on.

Obsidian is UNLIKELY to do it, although, they may see it as a chance to prove that the poor show from TSL wasn't thier fault.

Lucas SHOULD do it, because it's their game in reality.

 

Of course, that's all my opinion.

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Well, I guess Obsidian should do it or LucasArts itself. Obsidian did a good job and they should have more time to finish it. Bioware would not do it. As goldberry said they passed the development on to Obsidian. It would be the best if Obsidian would do it instead of passing it again and again to new developers. But on the other hand, I prefer to having it passed to a new developer instead of having no K3.

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Yes, but so what?

 

Kotor uses an D&D ruleset. You can't just pick an engine an start working. It doesn't work that way, imo. It would be very simple if it was. Just licence the Source Engine, program stuff, and release it.

SW2007 is obviously a shooter-ish engine. In another little movie, about LA compagny itself, you can see an action sequence of SW2007 at the end. It shows an Stormtroper haning on a ledge, trying to climb up again. It's obviously a shooter-isn engine.

 

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Only a company that knows how to use the D&D ruleset should be alowed to make the game. This includes Bioware, Obsidian and possibly even Blizzard.

An action-game developer like Lionhead would make it to action-ish. Not to mention the development under Molyneux. Release date would be set around 2015 in that case :xp:

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Kotor uses an D&D ruleset. You can't just pick an engine an start working. It doesn't work that way, imo. It would be very simple if it was. Just licence the Source Engine, program stuff, and release it.

SW2007 is obviously a shooter-ish engine. In another little movie, about LA compagny itself, you can see an action sequence of SW2007 at the end. It shows an Stormtroper haning on a ledge, trying to climb up again. It's obviously a shooter-isn engine.

 

I could be mistaken, but it seems to me a graphics engine just runs the graphics, no matter what rules are applied to the game.

 

And though KotOR games do use d20 Star Wars rules as a base, they don't exactly take those rules as holy scripture - many of the feats and powers are expanded on freely with those rules serving only as a base (no force-skills in KotOR, for example).

 

I would agree, however, that I don't want a shooter-ish KotOR3. One of the things that works for KotOR is that it's still turn-based, which means the outcome of battles depends greatly on the skill I've built for my character, and not whether I'm good at pushing buttons.

 

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Only a company that knows how to use the D&D ruleset should be alowed to make the game. This includes Bioware, Obsidian and possibly even Blizzard.

An action-game developer like Lionhead would make it to action-ish. Not to mention the development under Molyneux. Release date would be set around 2015 in that case :xp:

 

Not sure if this is really that much of a problem. Love them or loathe them (and the latter is true for me), d20 rules are pretty easy to pick up. Still, I also think that either Obsidian or Lucasarts itself should do KotOR3...

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I know MS is not a favorite of a lot of folks, but they'd certainly have the resources to hire in people knowledgeable with the first 2 games.
Microsoft Game Studios has a few development houses it owns. Lionhead is owned by MGS. Bungie is mentioned further on in the thread but I don't think they make RPG's. Rare may be an outside shot but again they don't seem to have any RPG-making experience.

what if lionhead did k3 anyboby remeber the sucess that was fable?
OK. Don't know much about Lionhead so I'll have to do more research.

bungie could do it!
I'm thinking you and FiEND_138 were not being serious about Bungie Studios making KotOR 3. Please advise if you were serious and the reasons why since as far as I can tell Bungie only does FPS games like the Halo series.

Only a company that knows how to use the D&D ruleset should be alowed to make the game. This includes Bioware, Obsidian and possibly even Blizzard.
Blizzard doesn't seem like much of a possibility to me. Blizzard seems like they are too busy with Worlds of Warcraft to be involved with anything else. As far as the combat system for the next KotOR goes, who knows what it will be like?
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I'm going to give a big NO to Blizzard. If they are to work on anything besides WoW, it had better be the next Diablo or Starcraft game.

 

At the moment I am reserving judgement. If Obsidian does well with Neverwinter Nights 2, then I am going to definately want them to do KOTOR 3. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Lucas Arts is waiting on as well.

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Bioware all the way! The plot for KOTOR I had a plot twist with the revelation and all that. KOTOR II TSL by Obsidion did not have a plot twist and I thought the story was just sort of dumb...you find the jedi masters or you try to wipe out all the jedi..sounds alot like Star Wars Episode III. I think Bioware made a truly captivating game while Obsidion improved the combat but slacked off on the story. I would truly like to see Bioware develope the third KOTOR that is if it happens...

 

BioWare would not have handed them K2 if they were not.

 

Bioware only handed them K2 because they were occupied with Jade Empire and Mass Effect.

 

Only a company that knows how to use the D&D ruleset should be alowed to make the game. This includes Bioware, Obsidian and possibly even Blizzard.

 

Don't forget Atari and Wizards. they made D&D together and NWN with Bioware.

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