Cygnus Q'ol Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I would actually fancy a large time span between TSL and KotORIII. At least 10 years or more. I would like the tales of Revan and the Exile to be faint stories in the past as we encounter a new set of plot points and conflicts. This game will be quite a while before it comes out (if at all), so I don't want to try to go back and re-hash the whole storyline all over again. I wouldn't mind crossing paths with past characters or engage in a few sub-plots that fill in some of the questions from the first two games, however, this game will need a fresh, new story with remnants from the others, but all new settings, planets and characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playloud Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I wouldn't mind a KotOR III that took place about 15 years after KotOR II. I would embrace a new story with slight references to Exile and Revan. Maybe they could cover their conclusion in the Jedi archives or something. It could be time to move onto another Jedi story, which takes place in Jedi antiquty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playloud Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Personally, I would want more than a "slight" reference. I would imagine they did something big, and now you have to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Maybe the aftermath to what had occured is what KotOR III would be about. You get to visit the same locations that Revan and Exile took off to. During your travels, you will learn about your part in the story. You never know, they could have placed everything into position, so 'you' the newer pc could take over or save the galaxy. It maybe revealed that you are one of Revan's teachers, and he/she (Revan) betrayed you in the past. Revan became so powerful that he/she ripped the Force out of you. Except a smal kernal, which will grow durring your travels. This will allow 15 years to pass. The PC could come out of being unconscious. Having the Force ripped out of you could be an even more tramatic experience, which leaves the Force user in a coma like state. One of your companions could have been searching the galaxy to find you, for they themselves were betrayed by Revan or Exile. You could be an instrument used to conflict revenge on Revan or to save the galaxy. (Sounds kind of like the Kreia story.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Architect Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I think KotOR III should definately take place after KotOR II and act as a 'trilogy wrapper upper' game which brings closure to the stories of Revan and the Exile. We should definately play as a new main character in KotOR III, in fact we will be; however the genders and alignments of Revan and the Exile should be for the player to decide, it should not be forced upon the player! The focus of the plot should be on the 'True Sith', it should answer questions such as... 1. Who are the 'True Sith'? What exactly are the 'True Sith'? 2. How long have they been in the unknown regions for? Why are they in the unknown regions? 3. If the 'True Sith' Empire is so great, then why didn't they attack the Republic/Jedi/Sith/Mandalorians after the Jedi Civil War when they were all in a clearly weak, vulnerable state? 4. If Revan still lives, what has he/she been doing in the unknown regions all of this time? Revan has been gone for four years, he/she has gone to 'fight them (the 'True Sith' in his/her own' way as Kreia puts it) but not even the likes of Revan can take on an entire Empire on their own, so what is Revan doing? 5. If the 'True Sith' were behind the Mandalorian Wars then how/when did they get the Mandalorians to launch an assault upon the Old Republic? 6. What did Revan discover in the unknown regions? How did Revan find out about the 'True Sith'? Who else apart from Revan, the Exile and Kreia knows/knew about the 'True Sith'? There are many other unresolved questions like these too but you get the theme. Now as far as when exactly should KotOR III take place, to me it does not matter, it depends on how the devs handle things, as long as these type of questions are answered, then for me, KotOR III could take place anywhere between 3-25 years after KotOR II, that's the way I see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I'd say anywhere between at least a couple of months to at most a couple of years after TSL. If KotOR3 is going to be to TSL what "Return of the Jedi" was to "Empire Strikes Back" - as I both think and prefer it to be for essentially the same reasons that The Architect has mentioned - then that would seem to be the timeframe for me. "Return of the Jedi" took place just one year after "Empire Strikes Back", and yet Luke had to grow more powerful in the force and the Empire build a new death star. All you need for KotOR3 is really for the Exile to find his way to the Unknown Regions and meet up with Revan, which could be as lilttle as a month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Palamides Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Sure Point. I think we all argee if K3 sets after the end of K2, The War in the unknown regions, Revan and all those things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalvaklu321 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 It has to be after K2. The buildup in K2 would become completely pointless then. Obsidian set it up so that if there is another KOTOR (i'd say there is a 90% chance there will be), it would have to be after TSL. Now, K4 could be any time, before, way before, or way after the original ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucied Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 well what if KOTOR 3 becomes a prequel? to explain what revan did to fall to the darkside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksylver Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 that wouldn't be a bad idea, but they wouldn't just leave the exile's story unfinished like that. Right now it is a cliffhanger and people want to know what happens in the search for revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Actually, K3 can start a few moments BEFORE the final event of K2, perhaps as the prologue. Then the ending of K2 can be more clearly explained, in another perspective. THEN the real story will start after K2 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Balor Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 well what if KOTOR 3 becomes a prequel? to explain what revan did to fall to the darkside You find how that happens K1 and K2 it was Kreia's teachings, the StarForge andTrayus Academy that lead Reven to the darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darca Lar Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 k3 should take place after k2, not much happens b/t k1 and k2, and we already know what happened before k1, so what happens after k2 is really the only vacant space there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 After K2 because it has several billion if not trillion ends to tie up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick5770 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Definatly after K2, too many loose ends to start before. And also, K2 was a sequel, so K3 should also be a sequel, not a prequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 If KotOR3 is a prequel, then it's not KotOR3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 After. I think Exile and Revan encounts will be bloody perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 One possibility would be to set it 15-20 yrs in future, with your character being sent to look for the Exile and/or Revan or at least info about whatever became of them. In this way you could bring in Brianna/Disciple and Carth, Bastila, etc...to be the ones sending you out on this mission of discovery. As these characters all stayed behind to rebuild the Republic/Jedi order while the Exile went in search of Revan and the mystery of the true Sith. Perhaps you're the "love child" of Revan and Carth/Bastila, thus adding a slight twist to the story and an urgency to your quest. However, don't think it's necessary to have K3 follow right on the footsteps of K2. A minimum of 5 years would be a decent interval. But anything beyond 20 might be a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperSkeele Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 i think it should start befor the end of K2 but not to long befor the end what do u think OK, my twisted idea: It should be Revans journeys in search of the evil in the unknown regions starting maybe a year after the end of K1 and end in a victory that yeilds a dark mysterious question, and then KOTOR 4 should be the Exile's Journey into the Unknown following Revan's footsteps after K2 WITH CARTH !!!! (who just couldn't stay behind, and somewhere along the journey he realizes he is sensitive to the Force and goes completely Jedi) And then KOTOR 5 would take place in the forgotten realms of the ancient Sith where Exile finds Revan as Revan is attempting to infiltrate the heirarchy of evil to get close to the ULTIMATE Sith Lord who is only seen physically by his closest Sith servants.....and KOTOR 6..... A sequel means it follows something. If KotOR III were to happen at any point other than after KotOR II, it wouldn't be a sequel, and therefore shouldn't be KotOR III. I hadn't heard that the next chapter was definately going to be a "Sequel" perhaps it's a Prequel or a demiquel, a hemiquel, a susquiquel, a spheriquel, a midiquel, a quasiquel, or just another loosely related story. I think though that the term Sequel as used in the preceeding statements relates entirely to the release order and not to the story order. I believe I correctly understood the inference and the general themeology of the posted idea in that it was intended to signify the order in which the titles were offered, and in that was stated correctly as "Sequel". Once the title is released the Author of the fiction will determine which of the qualifiers will be used, so for the sake of being precisely specific, KOTOR 3 will most likely be released at a time after KOTOR 2's release (unless we make some astounding scientific advances) qualifying it for now as a "Sequel" in terms of or synonomous with "the following" release. Yes, I am a wise-@$$, or more precisely..... Anyway, I'm a fan of jumping back and forth in time, so I would like to see the next release take place with Revan as the PC shortly after K1. I still think KOTOR3 would be more appropriate than KOTOR 1.2 in this circumstance, but that's a matter of opinion. I'm just chomping at the bit to find out what happened to Revan, and it would be really cool to take a ship out into the unknown regions to explore the dangers that lurk therein. Hey, it worked in Pulp Fiction ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Nihilus Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 well KOTOR 3 is going to come out on 2007 dont you think thats a long time for a game (thinking) I heard they going to give the exile and Reven genders WHAT do you think?....also other good games are coming out for XBOX 360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadYorick Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 TSL left everyone hanging. Because firstly you see the Ebon Hawk fly through space and then the game ends. All the speculation is that the Exile goes into the forbidden regions. But what happens to the Ebon Hawk and the rest of her crew? Did the Exile leave them on some planet just like Revan or take them along? But I would like something like KOTOR1's storyline. Where you play as someone who had their memory wiped and was actually a jedi or sith. But I would really want to see what Kreia said was "True sith" and hope that they include the forbidden regions in the next game. Also if they are going to give Revan and the Exile actual genders they should do what they did in KOTOR 2 and have someone talk about them. Then correct them when they think they are male or female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Which means customizing "your" Revan and Exile. Whether that be: LSM REvan / LSM Exile LSM Revan / DSM Exile LSM Revan / LSF Exile LSM Revan / DSF Exile (this is My Revan and Exile choice) LSF Revan / LSM Exile LSF Revan / DSM Exile LSF Revan / LSF Exile LSF Revan / DSF Exile DSM Revan / LSM Exile DSM Revan / DSM Exile DSM Revan / LSF Exile DSM Revan / DSF Exile DSF Revan / LSM Exile DSF Revan / DSM Exile DSF Revan / LSF Exile DSF Revan / DSF Exile Yeah 16 choices. So? From a storyline perspective, it isn't that hard. And for showing their faces? Not hard either. Remember where you could choose "your" lightsaber color in Kotor II. That was a value you could set. If Kotor III shows you a selection of faces, you can set "a value" as well. And if the programmer didn't make a mistake you should have the face of "Your" Revan / Exile appear. It might this time show DS faces if you want one of your characters to have this alignment off course. Very simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 After TSL. Long enough for some of the Order to get rebuilt a bit so that there are a few masters to chat with. I don't want to feel like I'm the only Jedi in the galaxy, either. If you make it too long after TSL there wouldn't be much believability in finding any trace of Revan and/or the Exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Yeah 16 choices. So? From a storyline perspective, it isn't that hard. The difficulties that can arise from implementing this kind of feature are quite 'hard'. And for showing their faces? Not hard either. This would be quite difficult to pull off, and almost impossible to implement in the game without it being instantly realised by the players of the previous games for what it is. I have stated several times before about this kind of feature... How do you go about this without having a pre-game quiz, or having to look at mug shots sometime in the game. Both are not very good options and are very transparent. You don't want this kind of detracting 'feature' in a game. Remember where you could choose "your" lightsaber color in Kotor II. That was a value you could set. If Kotor III shows you a selection of faces, you can set "a value" as well. Comparing the TSL lightsaber selection (which is limited by the way to only colors and the in-game limited hilt styles) to having to select a 'face' for Revan and the Exile is not even remotely equal, they are two different things and implementation would be drastically different. And if the programmer didn't make a mistake you should have the face of "Your" Revan / Exile appear. It might this time show DS faces if you want one of your characters to have this alignment off course. Very simple Not "Very simple" as you put it, to implement 'Revan and the Exile's faces' in a potential K3 would be a lot more difficult that you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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