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I found the Mask

 

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Its call Vacuum Mask, and you get it when you turn the dark side at the Tample on the Unknow World. Bastila had it all this time i would guess.

This was in the most surprising place...Gamebanshee forums.

 

EDIT: RSM i have the gernade how do i throw it without a enemy?

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I think Revan simply bought the mask along with the rest of the outfit in some shop on Coruscant. It's a planet-wide city, they should have plenty of shops and tailors where you can buy masquerade gear. It's not fantasy where clothes or armor need to be enchanted or have been worn earlier by some ancient master to be of any use. There is nothing "Sith Lordy" about a gray/brown dress with a cape and hood and some body armor on and a face covering mask. The fact that Revan wore such a get-up was what made it a sith lord attire after Revan became a Sith Lord. :)

 

Judging by the cutscenes Revan had that or a similar-looking attire at least immediately after the Mandalorian war ended, and likely during the final stages of the war as well since Canderous didn't recognize him/her. :)

 

Then much later when the Starforge was found (s)he used it to produce a force powered variant of similar-looking garbs not to confuse the minions. ;)

 

At least that's my theory. Why complicate things when there is a simple solution at hand?

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Yeah, besides no where does it say that Revan had bought the robes, especially considering he never saw the surface of Courscant, he was raised by the Council on and never left Dantooine.....

 

Uh, hello? Revan was the commander of a third of the Republic fleet during the Mandalorian wars, a feat somewhat difficult to pull off if you never leave the surface of a planet. It's also fairly difficult to hold a speech in front of the Republic senate if you've never been to Coruscant. :p

 

Allow me to turn the question around. Where does it say that Revan didn't buy the robes. (Preferable some place without the phrases wiki or pedia in its name...) :)

 

"Oh no, that's Revan! He could not possibly have bought his clothes like everyone else does. Heavens no, he must have looted it off the corpse of some millennia old Dark side adept who in turn looted it from an even older master who was given them by The Force/God himself soon after the universe was created!" :roleyess::p

 

My theory expanded: Revan and Malak took a stroll on some busy Coruscant street in a free moment after having delivered a speech before the Senate pleading their support to the Republic war effort against the Mandalorians. Revan spots the custome in a shop display window and thinks it looks pretty cool and buys it. :)

 

Hey he coulda made his own robes......

 

Yes, of course. "Behold, Darth Revan, Dark Tailor of the Sith!". I think he could afford letting others manufacture his clothes for him, really. Not to mention having more important things to do than crafting elaborate masquerade costumes.

 

 

Holograms! The Star Wars galaxy has bunches of holograms I mean look at the end of the game Vandar and Dodanna, The Emperor was in a hologram on many occassions so :p to you to

 

I suppose he killed Mandalore in one on one combat aboard the Mandalorian flag ship as well via a hologram? Or force choked him from half a galaxy away and pulled Mandalore's helmet to him via telekinesis? Riiight... ;)

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"Oh no, that's Revan! He could not possibly have bought his clothes like everyone else does. Heavens no, he must have looted it off the corpse of some millennia old Dark side adept who in turn looted it from an even older master who was given them by God himself soon after the universe was created!"[/Quote]

 

Hey he coulda made his own robes......

 

Uh, hello? Revan was the commander of a third of the Republic fleet during the Mandalorian wars, a feat somewhat difficult to pull off if you never leave the surface of a planet. It's also fairly difficult to hold a speech in front of the Republic senate if you've never been to Coruscant.[/Quote]

 

Holograms! The Star Wars galaxy has bunches of holograms I mean look at the end of the game Vandar and Dodanna, The Emperor was in a hologram on many occassions so :p to you to

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Hey he coulda made his own robes......[/Quote]

 

The problem is the robe is being made of Star Forge.

 

Holograms! The Star Wars galaxy has bunches of holograms I mean look at the end of the game Vandar and Dodanna, The Emperor was in a hologram on many occassions so :p to you to

 

Eh...Holograms? No comments on that because it's too common.

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There is nothing "Sith Lordy" about a gray/brown dress with a cape and hood and some body armor on and a face covering mask. The fact that Revan wore such a get-up was what made it a sith lord attire after Revan became a Sith Lord. :)

 

It's a robe. Sith Lords (emphasis on the later part) don't traditionally wear dresses. :p

 

Jedi are very concerned about Sith-ish clothing. Even Anakin's Episode II outfit drew attention from the Masters. If it didn't involve anything black or similar, though, it wouldn't have been cause for alarm. :)

 

Judging by the cutscenes Revan had that or a similar-looking attire at least immediately after the Mandalorian war ended, and likely during the final stages of the war as well since Canderous didn't recognize him/her.

 

Although I don't think Revan wore that specific outfit during the Mandalorian Wars, I found an explanation I like about the matter somewhere else, in which people from Deralia considered it a taboo to show their faces.

 

Allow me to turn the question around. Where does it say that Revan didn't buy the robes. (Preferable some place without the phrases wiki or pedia in its name...) :)

 

It's also possible that the Jedi gave them to him. Given how there've been Knights whose outfits strayed from traditional ones and how Jedi usually don't bother with money, it's likely that Revan could've asked for and been given the outfit he wanted. :)

 

Yes, of course. "Behold, Darth Revan, Dark Tailor of the Sith!". I think he could afford letting others manufacture his clothes for him, really. Not to mention having more important things to do than crafting elaborate masquerade costumes.

 

If I may make a point, stoffe... Dark Lords making their own clothing and weapons is not unheard of. If you've heard of Sith alchemy, it's an art that can't be done by common laborers or droids. Armor or weapons that are infused with the power of the dark side are much stronger than regular ones, and can even enhance the power of the wearer. As ridiculous as it may seem, it's often preferrable for Sith Lords to make their own clothes and weapons. ;)

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A likely explanation would be that Revan had his face disfigured in one of the battles in the Mandalorian Wars, and instead of opting for a plastic surgery, he decided to put on this cool mask and accompanying robe he found on eBay.

 

Or he/she simply fell to the dark side. But yeah, masks on eBay only cost something like 1p now and plastic surgery costs a lot more. And since it's the Christmas season, they're giving masks away for free.

 

Off-topic: And this must be the first Thread I've seen that has had forty three posts being posted after Grivis made this Thread, while I've been offline.

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Ehm...just a quick thought...

 

The machine in the Star Forge can make 2 robes right? LS and DS.

But the Star Forge was CHANGED into a factory. There were fighter factorys all over the place, baraks, etc.

 

So maybe Revan used a similar machine on some DS planet he visited to make the original robes an mask, and 'made' a similar one on the Star Forge, since it can 'build' everything you wish, including such a machine.

 

Seems logical to me...

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The problem is the robe is being made of Star Forge.

 

Where does the game say that the robes Darth Revan wore were created at the Star Forge, other than in a single item description that conflicts with the rest of the story of the game? (A description on an item that only looks marginally similar to the actual robes Darth Revan was shown wearing the the game.) If you go by item descriptions and "later overrides earlier" criteria then half of KotOR1 never happened due to what some item descriptions in TSL says. :)

 

And even if a Revan robe was created on the Star Forge that doesn't preclude that Revan had a similar-looking attire already earlier and only made a more high-quality version of them at the SF that looked the same. Do you only have a single set of clothes? No? Then why would Revan wear the exact same clothes permanently? The stench if anything would make that unbearable after a few years. :)

 

 

It's a robe. Sith Lords (emphasis on the later part) don't traditionally wear dresses.

 

Darth Revan's attire was an armored robe. The thing the Star Forge plops out for you near the end of the game is most definitely a dress. :p

 

 

Jedi are very concerned about Sith-ish clothing. Even Anakin's Episode II outfit drew attention from the Masters. If it didn't involve anything black or similar, though, it wouldn't have been cause for alarm. :)

 

So what does make clothing "Sith-ish"? As far as I know there have been no strict Sith dress code presented and every single sith lord presented in the movies and games have been dressed radically differently in their own style. I'm compelled to believe there is no such thing as a Sith dress code, only the personal taste in clothing of each individual that achieves the rank of Sith Lord.

 

If Revan's attire could be labeled as a Sith outfit, then what would make it so? Can you point out a single Sith Lord in recent memory (that the people of the era would remember) before Revan rose to power that was dressed in a similar manner? :)

 

That it became the commonly known appearance of the Dark Lord after Revan assume that mantle is another thing. But if he wore it before openly being a Sith, during the Mandalorian Wars, I doubt anyone would wonder why their acting Grand Admiral was wearing a "Sith outfit".

 

It's also possible that the Jedi gave them to him. Given how there've been Knights whose outfits strayed from traditional ones and how Jedi usually don't bother with money, it's likely that Revan could've asked for and been given the outfit he wanted. :)

 

Well, if he bought it in a shop or if someone else bought it for him is pretty much the same. But I don't think the Jedi are unable to acquire a taste in clothing and buy what they want themselves. After all if you look at the movies there is a rather distinct difference between the attires of, say, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Aayla Secura, both of whom are Jedi. Just like Sith Lords can have a personal taste in clothing so can Jedi. :p

 

The fact that the Order provides for them doesn't mean the Jedi don't have or need any money. This isn't Star Trek, the Star Wars universe is depicted as having a rather capitalistic galactic economy. The Jedi won't need to get a job to earn money, since they technically work for the Jedi order and are provided what money they need through them.

 

 

If I may make a point, stoffe... Dark Lords making their own clothing and weapons is not unheard of. If you've heard of Sith alchemy, it's an art that can't be done by common laborers or droids.

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As ridiculous as it may seem, it's often preferrable for Sith Lords to make their own clothes and weapons.

 

Ah yes, the Extended Universe's attempt to turn the Force into traditional Fantasy Magic in the otherwise tech-scifi Star Wars universe. Call me a purist but there is nothing in the movies that even hints at such things, and that is why I tend to stay away from the EU except for a few games. :) Over-reliance on ability-boosting items to the point where character skills and abilities become irrelevant is a failing of many RPGs I'd rather not see carried over to starwars.... "Young fool... your pitiful skills are no match for the power of my ROD OF LORDLY MIGHT +200!!!!111one". :roleyess:

 

This isn't the Dark Ages, there is a whole industrialized galaxy that specializes in manufacturing all things so you won't have to do everything yourself. And if you don't want an off-the-shelf attire you can have one tailor-made to your specifications if you have the money, which I doubt would be a problem in this case.

 

Besides, imagine to your inner eye Malak sitting in front of a sewing machine carefully crafting his red body tights attire he wears as a Sith Lord? Is that the kind of imagery you want to think of every time you see a Sith Lord? :p

 

Long story short I just think it's taking Jedi and Sith mysticism a bit too far if even the underwear a Sith Lord wears must have some mysterious background and ritual significance.

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I'm sorry, but the idea that Revan went down to...I dunno...Deralia Clothing Inc., and then took something off the peg is a bit...naff, IMO.

 

Why shouldn't Revan be able to sew? Soldiers need to be able to repair their own clothes in the field, I'd imagine. Presumably Revan did, too. Sure, seeing the Dark Lord in front of a sewing machine isn't terribly awe-inspiring, but maybe he force manipulated the robes together or something....Anyhow, he's hardly likely to do it in public, now is he...

 

re: underwear: Why? Nearly everything Pharaoh wore had a mystical significance...

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I take it as Revan had the pre-Star Forge 'normal' version of the signature 'robes' (That Revan made or bought somewhere) and then had the Star Forge make identical ones that were 'magical' after they dicovered it, so it could have all those 'Monty Haul' magic bonuses on them. :xp:

 

I'm sorry, but the idea that Revan went down to...I dunno...Deralia Clothing Inc., and then took something off the peg is a bit...naff, IMO.

But that's how it is in Star Wars... you can have things made. It costs credits that's all. They wouldn't me 'magical' though.

 

I had a group of players that designed and had built many different things and it isn't that uncommon.

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Basic Bounty Hunter (Mandolorian Styled) Armor: 12,500 Credits

 

Additional Jango Fett Armor Modifications: 42,500 Credits

 

Look on Jango's face when pwnd by Mace Windu: Priceless

 

For everything else there is the Imperial Express Card Don't leave Coruscant without it! :xp:

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And even if a Revan robe was created on the Star Forge that doesn't preclude that Revan had a similar-looking attire already earlier and only made a more high-quality version of them at the SF that looked the same. Do you only have a single set of clothes? No? Then why would Revan wear the exact same clothes permanently? The stench if anything would make that unbearable after a few years. :)

I play in a history re-enactment group from time to time, and they use 'armor' in their 'fighting'. Some of them never wash it. After a few months (let alone years), the armor reeks and practically can stand up on its own.

 

Darth Revan's attire was an armored robe. The thing the Star Forge blurts out for you near the end of the game is most definitely a dress. :p

Yeah, and apparently the Rakatans had an ancient copy of Cosmopolitan because that thing was just dog-ugly. Very last millenia. Burlap sacks have more features. Of course, I suck in the fashion department so I can't complain too much. :D

 

Well, if he bought it in a shop or if someone else bought it for him is pretty much the same.....

This isn't the Dark Ages, there is a whole industrialized galaxy that specializes in manufacturing all things so you won't have to do everything yourself. And if you don't want an off-the-shelf attire you can have one tailor-made to your specifications if you have the money, which I doubt would be a problem in this case.

I was thinking s/he had it made personally for him/her myself. Conquering the galaxy leaves little free time for shopping. :D

 

 

Besides, imagine to your inner eye Malak sitting in front of a sewing machine carefully crafting his red body tights attire he wears as a Sith Lord? Is that the kind of imagery you want to think of every time you see a Sith Lord? :p

:lol: That image just does something weird to my head.

 

Long story short I just think it's taking Jedi and Sith mysticism a bit too far if even the underwear a Sith Lord wears must have some mysterious background and ritual significance.

They can call it whatever they want. As long as it's clean, Mama Jae is happy. :D

 

@RH--Imperial Express Card-- :lol:

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