Rev7 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Thread ripped in two. This is the spinoff of this thread. ~tk102 I think that God wants followers to see if they are actually loyal to Him. I think that if you are playing a game when a "god" is the main character, it is sinful. 1st commandment out of the 10 commandment is " You shall have no other Gods but me. " Playing a game that makes you a god is not right in the Eyes of my God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Playing a game that makes you a god is not right in the Eyes of my God. don't click me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 don't click me thats not cool man Edit: Anyway, any help would be good, especially from the Chrisitan wing of the LF Board. YOu asked the "Christian wing", and Christians only believe in one God. Use the edit button instead of double posting, please. --Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SykoRevan Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 I'm god enough in The Sims, where I control all the tiny little people But forgive me if this was stated already, but what genre would this game be? Adventure, Fighting, RPG, RTS, MMORPG (for more gods than Mt. Olympus ) It could be a game like the Sims, where you create the universe, and make sure it doesn't destroy itself, and you also have the ability to do things to the people, like make them drop dead, pick them up and throw them in the ocean, and other things which are meaningless, yet also addictive fun. *sigh,* if only it was possible in real life, I'd pick up some WBC protesters, and throw them into the Bermuda Triangle. And yes, in this game, the Bermuda Triangle should exist, as well as Bigfoot, so you could pick him up and put him in a taxi cab. Other activities include creating a plague of locusts inside a restaurant (which would severely lower their health department grade), creating natural disasters, rebuilding cities, knocking them down again with another natural disaster, and burning bushes (not the president... unless you enter a cheat code ) P.S. How come the Christian God is the only one you can't make video games about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Eyes of my God. Do you capitalize every body part of God's? Like would a crescent moon be "His Toenail" or something? Also tee kay that game is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Uh...Rev, you don't have any clue what you're talking about. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" is talking about Polytheism, not talking about playing computer game where you play a god. Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 Uh...Rev, you don't have any clue what you're talking about. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" is talking about Polytheism, not talking about playing computer game where you play a god. Geez. Actually I think that I do know what I am talking about. Scope said, " 1) Is playing as an all-mighty god somehow "scarligeous" or "sinful"?" I only put in my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't think I'm going to hell for playing Black & White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I don't think I'm going to hell for playing Black & White. I hope not, or i shalt be condemned to the fiery pits myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 Having an opinion automatically make it a valid one? I said, "just putting in my two cents". That is what I believe to be true, and no one has to take that in to be the truth for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I ask that every time someone says they want to play as Revan in K3. Mask of the Betrayer starts at level 18-20, KotOR III can too! I think that if you are playing a game when a "god" is the main character, it is sinful. (Why?) I do know what I am talking about. Scope said, " 1) Is playing as an all-mighty god somehow "scarligeous" or "sinful"?" I only put in my two cents. I said, "just putting in my two cents". That is what I believe to be true, The third time's a charm, I think I've got your opinion down now. All that's left to explain is why I should consider it valid. (Say, perhaps a thread-splitting to Kavar's would be a good idea if the sinfulness of deified video game characters is discussed any further?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 I never said that you had to take my opinion and beleive it to be true. I know this may be off topic, but Christianity is based on faith, ED. We all get to choose what we believe in, and this just happens to be what I believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Uh, ED, opinons are just that, opinons. They don't need to be justified. I'm okay with Rev7 says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Thank you SilentScope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I never said that you had to take my opinion and beleive it to be true. We all get to choose what we believe in, and this just happens to be what I believe in. I'm glad to hear that you've found something you believe in. Unfortunately, however, it still hasn't gotten rid of that annoying question of mine. I could say, for instance, "It is sinful to wear blue pants." Most people's reaction to this would be "Why do you think it is sinful to wear blue pants?" were my response to be "I believe it is sinful to wear blue pants. You do not have to believe the same," it probably wouldn't be very satisfactory to whoever asked, namely because it doesn't answer the question. I guess that's what comes with believing in Absolute Truth. You've stated numerous times I don't have to believe your opinion. Good to know you think so, but not terribly relevant. If you would claim to have a valid opinion on a matter you should at least be able to explain why you believe as you do. Nothing is right simply 'because it is'. Uh, ED, opinons are just that, opinons. They don't need to be justified. My opinion is that they do. And don't tell me I'm wrong, it's an unjustifiable opinion. You've admitted so yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 I'm glad to hear that you've found something you believe in. Unfortunately, however, it still hasn't gotten rid of that annoying question of mine. I could say, for instance, "It is sinful to wear blue pants." Most people's reaction to this would be "Why do you think it is sinful to wear blue pants?" were my response to be "I believe it is sinful to wear blue pants. You do not have to believe the same," it probably wouldn't be very satisfactory to whoever asked, namely because it doesn't answer the question. I guess that's what comes with believing in Absolute Truth. You've stated numerous times I don't have to believe your opinion. Good to know you think so, but not terribly relevant. If you would claim to have a valid opinion on a matter you should at least be able to explain why you believe as you do. Nothing is right simply 'because it is'. Christianity is based on faith, ED. Generally the only proof is the Bible, and your own personal experiences. That is really all that I can think of. Besides, I have NEVER stated that it "is right simply because it is". Not once. I am also very glad that you finally "get" my opinion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Er...to better example Rev7's ideology: Think of it this way. By pretending to be God, you can do stuff that, well, the real God wouldn't do. You could say, "Oh, the real God is moronic for not doing A, so I'll do A." Playing as God therefore would allow you to take up the role of God, and think you are as GOOD as God, even though, well, you only have the intellect of a human, and God's intellect is too vast for you to comprehend. You will do something that the real God won't like, and besides, to pretend to be God and do what God would do is an act of hubris. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 ...along those lines yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Different genre with different kinds of characters! I cite Revenge of the Sith and any other SW game that involves playing powerful Jedi from the start, touche Prime! Christianity is based on faith, ED. Generally the only proof is the Bible, and your own personal experiences. Since your case about sinful deified video game characters appears to have been drawn entirely from the bible's word we can discount the latter. While I'm glad you've been able to tell me 'because the bible says so' rather than 'because this is what I believe', I'm afraid you've still not provided a sufficient answer. If you could explain that answer further (whether it's because you think the bible presents a sound argument against deified video game characters or because you think everything in it is true simply because it's the bible) that would go a long way in explaining your position. I have NEVER stated that it "is right simply because it is". The foundation of your argument relies upon it being wrong because the bible says so, in other words an appeal to authority. Until you explain further your reasoning for taking what it says for granted (or in your case, taking your extrapolation of what it has said for granted) you are basically saying 'it's right because <unarguable person/idea/thing> says it's right.' However, that can be augmented with what I mentioned in the above paragraph. I think. You don't, otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread. If you'd like me to argue those points with you as if they were your opinion, however, just give the heads up and I'd be glad to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 You will do something that the real God won't like, and besides, to pretend to be God and do what God would do is an act of hubris. The question is: Why would God dislike something humans do? Since the human intellect is so negligibly miniscule, God would hardly care about what humans do, and instead think of our wars and inventions as real cute (I can imagine him posting 'lolhumans' pictures all over 4chan). Besides, since God is in control, he can just avert us from doing something wrong. Once again, something in religion that makes no sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Once again, something in religion that makes no sense!Once again, something in religion that is caught with phrases like "god moves in mysterious ways". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Since this is turning into another religious debate, I'm moving it to Kavar's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Since this is turning into another religious debate, I'm moving it to Kavar's /shakes head. Erm. Um. tk, is it possible to move it back to Ahto.. or maybe spiltting the topic... not the cleanest split, but done ~tk If you'd like me to argue those points with you as if they were your opinion, however, just give the heads up and I'd be glad to. Not my opinion. His opinon. *points to Rev7* I don't believe in his opinon (why I am thinking of this God Game after all ), but I wanted to articulate it for him, just because. I said "I think" because I think that was what Rev7 believed in, that was his opinon. Now that Rev7 confirmed, I can now retract the "I think" comment, because now that I know that is what Rev7 believed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 To be specific, "thou shalt not have any god's before Me." is referring to believing in other gods before God-god. You could, in theory, believe in other deities second, third, fourth, ect...to God, if we're only taking that one Commandment into question here. I'm sure there are more lines that say "no other gods AT ALL", and if somebody would like to provide them, I would be glad to see some. In any case, I think video game gods don't count here for a couple of very valid reasons. A: You know the "god" you are playing as is digital, and has no relevance to reality(as other historical deities would.) B: you know it's all pretend. Since digital people can't choose to worship God-god, you are taking nothing away from God-god that He could have had. Which is where the whole "no god's before me" comes in because you're making people worship you instead of Him. Now, if it is your(Rev7), personal beliefe, from what you have interpreted from you're experiances and how YOU think the Bible applies, then the following statement by you: Playing a game that makes you a god is not right in the Eyes of my God. is inaccurate, and should read more along the lines of: "I believe that from what I have read regarding my religion and how I have personally interpreted my religion that it is not OK in my opinion to pretend to be a god in a digital format." Or something along those lines with an excessive amount of times noting that it's you're opinion. otherwise, as has been asked, I would request of you to provide lines beyond "thou shalt not have any god's before me" from the Bible to back up you're claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 is inaccurate, and should read more along the lines of: "I believe that from what I have read regarding my religion and how I have personally interpreted my religion that it is not OK in my opinion to pretend to be a god in a digital format." Or something along those lines with an excessive amount of times noting that it's you're opinion. I think that was joke mate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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