The Paranormal

[Tommycat]

The lights in the forest have been happening a long time.

 

The statues: I found out about it from some people who lived there. Every area has their own ghost stories. I know about the Coloradi Springs ones because I took the time to visit each one of them. I even have a shirt that was shredded while in the tunnels under the CC(the rarest of the encounters, Physical manifestation and post encounter evidence). I saw the old theatre that was burned down, filled with people.

 

Trust me I was a skeptic before. Hence why I visited each of the places. I'm still trying to find rational explanations for every thing that I have seen. I'm trying to avoid telling the whole stories of what happened in the past for these places, as if you know the history it may color your experience should you go there. Lets just say that in the tunnels, something VERY bad happened to a woman down there.

[Rev7]

You have some good points there... Where would I find out more about these 'moving statues' though? You know those statues and the lights in the Black Forest of colorado could easily be practical jokes created by people who like to scare people... Right?

It is possible that these are jokes, but I think that it is highly unlikely.

I even have a shirt that was shredded while in the tunnels under the CC(the rarest of the encounters, Physical manifestation and post encounter evidence). I saw the old theatre that was burned down, filled with people.

I am really curious. Would it be possible for you to explain what happened a little bit more? Did you actually have this shirt on while it was "shredded"? And the theatre?

[Jae Onasi]

Of course anyone who does not believe in ghosts, I recommend you head to Colorado Springs. If you are a man, go through the basement levels of the old convention center. I say man because women tend to have very frightening experiences(some have stated that they had been raped with no physical signs of it)

 

Run with me, friends, towards the danger!! [/MST3k spoof of Cave Dwellers.

 

 

There are plenty of natural phenomenon that we have yet to learn about completely that we might describe as paranormal right now.

 

Also, the brain can do amazing things. It can convince you you've seen things that you haven't (ask anyone who's had a hallucination), haven't seen things that you have, feel things you don't, don't feel things you should. The 'placebo effect', where people feel better when taking a placebo instead of a real pill occurs about 35% of the time. Why? Because people believe enough that it helps that the brain is convinced it is helping.

 

Sometimes the brain processes information at a level below our perception. There's a center in the brain that processes rudimentary visual input that never makes it to the higher processing parts of the brain for it to be 'perceived'. That kind of sensory function may be affection some of these 'supernatural' occurrences.

 

People's perceptions of events can vary widely--I've stopped at some accident scenes and asked people what happened (knowing about the accident tells you a lot about what to expect with the victim(s).). I can ask 3 people what happened and everyone will have quite different memories of the event even though it may have happened mere moments earlier.

 

In addition, in a high stress/high adrenaline moment, we don't always think clearly, even if we think we're thinking clearly. I was in a lodge one time and dropped a large bench on my foot one time. I thought I broke it. I didn't want the guys sitting 20 feet away to know I was hurt because then they would find my friend the paramedic who would make me go to the ER in West Virginia at midnight on a Saturday night. Jimbo was in the restroom. Did I sit down and wait for him to come out? No. I picked up the bench, walked carefully across the room trying not to limp much to avoid attracting the other guys' attention, and thought to myself "gee, I don't feel any bones grinding." Was that a rational thing to do? Absolutely not. At the time, however, it felt entirely reasonable, because the shock and adrenaline did weird things to the thinking processes.

 

I could easily see many paranormal experiences turning out to be an unusual but natural phenomenon, and someone seeing or hearing it became scared, and the brain processed the phenomenon in an inaccurate way as a result. Some of it may be pure fraud (crystal ball readers who are nothing more than very good at body language and pop psychology). Some of it might be things we may never fully understand.

[Tommycat]

I am really curious. Would it be possible for you to explain what happened a little bit more? Did you actually have this shirt on while it was "shredded"? And the theatre?

It is kinda hard to explain everything. Yes, I was wearing the shirt. It was a couple of years back when I was setting up for a stage show. I had to get a few things from the basement(actually, I was the only one willing to go down there, as the crew simply refused to go down there). There's a long corridor underneath. There are areas where it is poorly lit, and while walking down there I felt this VERY uncomfortable feeling. The kind of feeling you would get eating a hamburger at a vegetarian convention. I took a few more steps and found out why the crew refused to go down there at night. I heard a scream for help. I ran to where I heard it from, and when I opened the door, I was literally knocked off my feet by nothing. I could feel something scraping at me, and when it was over, I had a shirt that was torn up(no scratches on me) and a strong desire NEVER to go down there again.

 

I later learned that back in the earlier days the passage used to be used to transport prisoners from the jail to the courthouse(which is now the site of the CC). It turned out that a woman was delivering food to the prisoners through that tunnel, when several very nasty prisoners were escaping. She didn't survive the ordeal, and from what I have since learned she was trapped down there over the weekend with them. The prisoners were killed before they escaped the tunnel.

 

The theatre is something different. It's attached to the CC though. There's a small door that leads from the CC main stage to the lower level of the old theatre. It had been closed for some time. I opened the door, and saw the theatre filled with people. I closed the door when they started staring at me. Trust me, nothing will freak you out more than the lifeless stare from a couple hundred pairs of eyes. I checked the door again, and when I opened it, there was no audience.

 

I later learned that the theatre next door was burned in the 1930's(which made the attire I could see make sense). The tragic accident killed all the audience members. I heard that they will clap at performances in the CC that they like.

 

@Jae:

Yeah I fully believe that most "paranormal" experiences are really the mind playing tricks. The situations I saw and experienced I still have a hard time believing myself. The dancing statue for instance, I still wonder if it was more due to the fact that I was on a road trip with friends, and I was told they would dance beforehand, so my mind may have actually made that up. Other times though I experienced similar experiences as others with no prior knowledge of what had hapened or what was "supposed" to happen.

[Rev7]

Also, the brain can do amazing things. It can convince you you've seen things that you haven't (ask anyone who's had a hallucination), haven't seen things that you have, feel things you don't, don't feel things you should. The 'placebo effect', where people feel better when taking a placebo instead of a real pill occurs about 35% of the time. Why? Because people believe enough that it helps that the brain is convinced it is helping.

I have to say that I agree. The brain is a very powerful thing. I have noticed that when certain things happen to me, it is normally when I have been very tired.

 

@Tommycat-- Wow. Perhaps that is something like that lady experienced. Just speculation though...

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The theatre incident reminds me of another television documentary on 'paranormal activity in Gettysburg', or along those lines. I guess that there is a college campus on some of the battle grounds. I guess that 'the paranormal' is a frequent occurance. A new student and one of the...I think it was one of the deans or someone that was/is a authority figure, got into an elevator. They pressed what floor number that they wanted to go to and the elevator was taken to the old abandoned basement. But as you can probably predict, they didn't see the basement. They saw a Civil War makeshift surgery room. The surgeon held out his hand asking for the ladies to come help him. These women didn't move, and the elevator finally kicked in. Those women were later taken back doen to that floor, and the floor was barren, dirty, and abandoned.

[Arcesious]

I agree. When I was little, I used to get so tired soemtimes that I thought things in my room where moving, and I thought I saw ghosts, but when i ran scared to my parents they told me it was because I was so tired that my eyes were playing tricks on me. It's not that hard to hallucinate after all... you don't even have to be tired.

[*Don*]

I'm one of those guys that has never had any paranormal experiences but wishes that he had.

 

There's a house in the central forests of New Jersey where they say the New Jersey Devil was born. People who visit it late at night claim to see ghosts and other such scary things.

I went there (I think on mischief night) last year hoping to get scared. Unfortunately nothing of the sort happened. The couple next to me started screaming and yelling but I seriously couldn't see anything. I was quite disappointed.

 

At any rate, I really want to see a paranormal event.

[Rev7]

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Hmm. Very interesting. I really haven't been through what would be called a "paranormal event". I have no desire to either. Why exactly do you want to see a paranormal event *Don*?

[*Don*]

^^^

Truth be told, I don't know myself.

 

I guess its just that I sometimes crave excitement and witnessing a paranoramal event would certainly stir things up a bit.

[Rabish Bini]

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Hmm. Very interesting. I really haven't been through what would be called a "paranormal event". I have no desire to either. Why exactly do you want to see a paranormal event *Don*?

 

Why do people go to horror movies, when they know that they're gonna get scared?

(To pick up chicks, lol )

[Hayden Kered]

^Scared? I don't find blood and gore to be scary. Most horror movies that I have seen make me laugh more than they do scare me.

 

I thought of something just recently that might explain the "face" in the photos I posted, since the object is appearing at the base of my window perhaps at the time a car was passing by. It might just be the headlights and the camera made it appear to be a face.

[Quanon]

I've had some weird sensations, just 2 years back, we did some tests with our class on how easy it is to "fool" your body and brain.

 

One of our trips took us to this cave. Now caves are small, low, and there isn't much sound and for the fun of it we turned out our light.

 

Pitch black, I can tell you, we all had very differant feelings and a sort of "madness" going on.

 

Our eyes are easly fooled ( movies are a great example). When the brain gets no more information it sometimes makes it up.

 

Ever did that "tunnel" vision effect, just roll up a piece of paper , stare through it for a minute and then look to your hand.

 

You'll often get the effect there's a hole in your hand.

 

There's tons of things that can easly effect your brain.

[JoeDoe 2.0]

I personally don't believe in ghosts or anything along thos elines, but sometimes I hear some stories or pics and it makes me wonder a little, that maybe NOT ALL of the stories i've heard are made up or hoaxes

[Rabish Bini]

It's sorta like havin a dream, there is nothin goin on so your mind makes something up, like Quanon said, but I still believe that there is more to some stories than it seems...

[Web Rider]

I believe in the paranormal, but I don't have any proof or evidence or personal experiences to support me. I have a powerful imagination and horrible vision without my glasses, so I have learned not to always trust my eyes.

[PoiuyWired]

Well, I think 99%+ of there events are either hoaxes, coincidances, , uncommon natural occurance, misunderstanding, under influence (drunk, high and otherwise) or your mind playing tricks.

 

Now, for that less than 1%, thats the real unexplained. The hard part is to find that less than 1% and to investigate. But before that you would have to go thru lots of cardboard UFOs, rubber duckie sea monsters, mutated chihuahuas, and twinkies shaped like jesus.