Achilles Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Link First, let me start by saying :lol: Okay, Hillary sez: "If you will vote for me next Tuesday, you are voting for the most fiscally responsible candidate on either side of the aisle," Since I'm busy laughing myself out of breath over here, allow me to share a couple of quotes from the article: There are a couple of problems with this claim, though. First, her campaign is approximately $20 million in debt, even after she loaned over $11 million of her own money to the cause. Actually it's $11.4 but no point in quibbling over $400,000. Several vendors and suppliers have come forward to say they are owed money by the campaign, To put it mildly. Many of these vendors are actively trying to recoup what they are owed. Some of them report being lied to and many of the them complain that their phone calls aren't being returned. and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn, is owed $5 million for his services before he parted ways with Clinton. No comment (okay one comment: 9% of all campaign funds went to Penn's firm? Wow!). Second, Clinton received more than five times the number of earmarks than any other senator, according Taxpayers for Common Sense. Their report also found that Clinton is responsible for receiving over $2 billion in earmarks from 2002 to 2006, which is more than either Barack Obama or John McCain. Well that doesn't bother me. It's unfortunate that "earmarks" are synonymous with "pork barrel" these days, so I guess I'd need to see some evidence that these earmarks were going toward pork before I could... The report set off controversy when it was revealed that Clinton, and the senior senator from New York, Charles Schumer, supported a $1 million earmark for a Woodstock museum....feel comfortable lambasting her for...oh. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 You have no idea how badly I needed a good laugh today. I have no idea if her earmarks are pork or not, either. Since she represents the state with the biggest city in the nation, I'd expect her to have a few more than the senators from, say, WY or SD. The fact that she's a Clinton doesn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Oh, this is too good. Especially McCain's comments about Woodstock. Oh, and yes, Clinton was right about one thing: she has been the only one to give numbers. Whether those numbers actually mean anything is a completely separate matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdKnightR Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 OMG, that is so hilarious! If you want to see fiscal responsibility, look at the person in my avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesious Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Fiscally responsible indeed! Just... Wow... Okay, these are the worst three candidates I've ever seen in an election! Especially *cough* Hilary *cough*... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 You would've preferred Rudy Giuliani and Mike Gravel in the General Election, eh? That's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mur'phon Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hillary is a candidate? Well in that case the "wounded" black knight is a dangerous adversary:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 ^^^^ I guess we'll know more after today's Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting. If by some miracle everything goes in her favor, we might still be left with a convention fight in August. If any reasonable agreement is made, then we might be able to hope for an end to this by Tuesday. PS: TPM Media is doing live blogging from the meeting if anyone is interested in following along. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I assume we'll have a new thread as soon as a decision is reached, yes? A lot could be determined today. I'm a bit excited. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 I assume we'll have a new thread as soon as a decision is reached, yes? It's possible. A lot could be determined today. I'm a bit excited. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 A lot could be determined today. I'm a bit excited. It is a long way till November, but if the poll number hold up the next President of the United States could be determined today. I’ll be glad when we get back to deciding elections the old fashion way and actually counting votes. I’m tired of mediators and judges settling elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 I’ll be glad when we get back to deciding elections the old fashion way and actually counting votes. I’m tired of mediators and judges settling elections.You mean like "never"? The electoral college has always decided the Presidency EDIT: Except the time that the Supreme Court did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 And the time the Electoral Commission did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 EDIT: Except the time that the Supreme Court did. Yeah, and we all know how well that turned out _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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