Jason Skywalker Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 So, apparently, Wookieepedia got a hold of a copy of the TFU novel. Spoilers are as follows: - Starkiller's real name is Jacob Nion. - After he duels with Vader, he is then killed by Palpatine, 2 BBY. One of the game's possible endings i'm assuming. - Jacob's mother died while defending Kashyyyk from Trandoshan slavers. - After Jacob's death, Juno joins the Rebellion. Those are the major points i saw. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Starkiller's real name is Jacob Nion. How is the name of the player character a "major spoiler"? After Jacob's death, Juno joins the Rebellion. How does a person like that get into the Empire in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Foley Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 How does a person like that get into the Empire in the first place? A person like what? And as far as this thread is concerned, I think wookiepedia is pretty much a festering pit of people claiming to have inside information. EDIT- Though I do like that his first name is a real world one. It fits more with the OT that way imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@RS Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 So, apparently, Wookieepedia got a hold of a copy of the TFU novel. Spoilers are as follows: - Starkiller's real name is Jacob Nion. - After he duels with Vader, he is then killed by Palpatine, 2 BBY. One of the game's possible endings i'm assuming. - Jacob's mother died while defending Kashyyyk from Trandoshan slavers. - After Jacob's death, Juno joins the Rebellion. Those are the major points i saw. Discuss. I like this, it looks like a nice plot... I like his name, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 His name doesn't sound Star Wars like... A lot of the stuff, I already knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@RS Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Well not all of the names are Star Wars like, like Luke, Leia and so forth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Well not all of the names are Star Wars like, like Luke, Leia and so forth yeah, but Jacob Nion sounds way more real-world than Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, and Han Solo (the solo part, lol). Don't forget they're pretty much the only people in the OT with regular-ish names. Mon Mothma. Crix Madine. Biggs Darklighter. Wedge Antilles. Bail Organa. Wilhuff Tarkin. Owen and Beru Lars. Heck, "Ben" is just Obi-Wan Kenobi's nickname... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Well not all of the names are Star Wars like, like Luke, Leia and so forth yeah, but Jacob Nion sounds way more real-world than Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, and Han Solo (the solo part, lol). Don't forget they're pretty much the only people in the OT with regular-ish names. Mon Mothma. Crix Madine. Biggs Darklighter. Wedge Antilles. Bail Organa. Wilhuff Tarkin. Owen and Beru Lars. Heck, "Ben" is just Obi-Wan Kenobi's nickname... QFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Lol, i knew i should have named this "MAJOR PLOT SPOILER and some interesting tidbits". Owen seems pretty real-world to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 owen might be, possibly even lars. Wilhuff is similar to some germanic names i've seen, but still, and han is real if you hit china. But, none of those sounds remotely as normal as Luke or Leia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Foley Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I'd say Owen is more real world than Leia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 lol, Leia is a real name, it's just usually pronounced Lee-uh and is spelled three or four different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 "Jacob Nion" doesn't sound powerful enough for someone who exhibits so much strength in the Force, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Jacob Nion... the bible popped up in my head for some reason. Still, anything is better than Starkiller. The fact that Juno will rebel herself seems quite interesting. From what we've seen so far she'll definetly change from an cold imperial to a more kind-hearted woman. I just hope that transition goes smoothly and don't look too forced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 If the spoilers are any indication, I think it's safe to say that Juno Eclipse will not be a proper Imperial officer at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Proper enough to Vader to place her by the Apprentice's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Foley Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 lol, Leia is a real name, it's just usually pronounced Lee-uh and is spelled three or four different ways. I've only ever seen Leah, though I guess you're right. But what about Owen Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Foley Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 If the spoilers are any indication, I think it's safe to say that Juno Eclipse will not be a proper Imperial officer at all. Making out with Imperial assassins isn't standard procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I've only ever seen Leah, though I guess you're right. But what about Owen Wilson? Leia/Léia is a quite common name in portuguese, I can assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 ^ Strange, never heard someone. Portuguese of Portugal or Brasil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 ^ Eh, yes. I was referring to Brasil. But I assumed that it was common on the old world as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Graffiti Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Wow, that actually sounds really dumb. If the spoilers are any indication, I think it's safe to say that Juno Eclipse will not be a proper Imperial officer at all. What did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotélēsticus Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Let us be rational. Stuffing the story of TFU inside a Star Wars main plot will leave LA—in my own humble estimation—with only two options that are canonically accepted: A) The one they have chosen with Starkiller (Jacob) dying at the end and Juno changing sides for his sake. B) He will disappear after his failure in turning Vader to his cause. In that case they will save him for another advenrture, against the New Sith Order perhaps. Now for me, I’d rather stick with the martyred hero and the vengeful beloved option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What did you expect? A proper Imperial officer, with basic Imperial values and ****. There's been more then enough turncoat Imperial officers in the EU. Kyle Katarn, Crix Madine, Jan Dodanna, the list goes on and on. Just for once, could Lucasarts have a single Imperial character other than Vader and Palpatine who is evil? Even a little evil? Let us be rational. Stuffing the story of TFU inside a Star Wars main plot will leave LA—in my own humble estimation—with only two options that are canonically accepted: A) The one they have chosen with Starkiller (Jacob) dying at the end and Juno changing sides for his sake. B) He will disappear after his failure in turning Vader to his cause. In that case they will save him for another advenrture, against the New Sith Order perhaps. Now for me, I’d rather stick with the martyred hero and the vengeful beloved option. Keep in mind that I am not trying to be imperious, but I'm far less than satisfied with either possibility. I'd rather LA did something original for once. The Apprentice being killed by Palpatine was good, but it's still too clichéd. The Star Wars EU has literally overflowed with former villains who persevered through the evil and was redeemed by the good people around them and died heroic deaths to inspire others in the fight for justice, yadda yadda yadda. How about the Apprentice and his girlfriend both being killed by a non-movie character? How about the Apprentice staying dark-sided from the beginning? Why did the supposed geniuses at Lucasarts never think of that? They could've had a good EU character (like Cronal or Jerec or whoever) kill the Apprentice, but instead they opted to use the same movie characters over and over. Why does the Apprentice have to be a hero at all? We've had enough heroes. Has there been a single game since TIE Fighter (released over a decade ago) which has a real storyline where the player is a serious, honest bad guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotélēsticus Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Keep in mind that I am not trying to be imperious, but I'm far less than satisfied with either possibility. I'd rather LA did something original for once. The Apprentice being killed by Palpatine was good, but it's still too clichéd. The Star Wars EU has literally overflowed with former villains who persevered through the evil and was redeemed by the good people around them and died heroic deaths to inspire others in the fight for justice, yadda yadda yadda. How about the Apprentice and his girlfriend both being killed by a non-movie character? How about the Apprentice staying dark-sided from the beginning? Why did the supposed geniuses at Lucasarts never think of that? They could've had a good EU character (like Cronal or Jerec or whoever) kill the Apprentice, but instead they opted to use the same movie characters over and over. Why does the Apprentice have to be a hero at all? We've had enough heroes. Has there been a single game since TIE Fighter (released over a decade ago) which has a real storyline where the player is a serious, honest bad guy? I see what your point is and I am inclined to agree on that for true. For like you I am tired of placing the same characters in a different timeline but with the same fates. When I first heard of the Apprentice I thought that at last LA will elevate their tales into an epic level, rather than sticking to the usual hero cycle (Joseph Campbell’s hero cycle). I thought it would be more pleasurable for player to play an anti-hero rather than a hero. But like I said, the canon plot restrains this kind of fates. For instance, they could have made him succeed in murdering the Emperor and then fight against Vader. In fact they would have more options to set in motion if the timeline was different. I think they could have done this more easily with Revan. Still, with the options introduced, I cling with what they have chosen, and pray they will finish this with more satisfying way, not the usual hasty LA way. As a matter of fact, I remember Haden Blackman speaking of a sequel in one of his interviews, telling that ALL CHARACTERS will be included. In the light of this, I think we have to wait and see what will really happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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