Mass Effect 3

[Lynk Former]

ME3 is a good game, it's just that very last part which puts a lot of folks off.

[jedi_consular16]

ME3 is a good game, it's just that very last part which puts a lot of folks off.

 

This. Probably the most accurate but concise statement that can be made about the game.

[Taak Farst]

Yeah, I'm with Lynk.

In my opinion, the game is fantastic, and the best of the trilogy. It had amazing gameplay, emotion-filled cutscenes and there were little things that made the game mindblowing, such as the interaction of the squad being what it is, such as going down to the lounge and seeing Garrus have a war story-battle with James.

 

So far, it was set up to be the perfect ending to a fantastic trilogy, but then the ending came. Not only was it a horrible ending to Mass Effect 3, but also a horrible end to the trilogy. There was ONE thing the ending set up did that I liked;

 

When Harbinger hits them all with the beam, and Shep wakes up, looking as bloody and worse for wear as he ever has done. This made me feel a sudden wave of shock and fear, because I realised at this point, that Shep IS human, and that he is mortal.

 

 

Call me dramatic.

[DarthParametric]

I think that might have been the case had the realities of mortality not been lessened (or completely removed) by the start of ME2, where Shep is killed and brought back to life with space magic.

[Achilles]

There was ONE thing the ending set up did that I liked;

 

When Harbinger hits them all with the beam, and Shep wakes up, looking as bloody and worse for wear as he ever has done. This made me feel a sudden wave of shock and fear, because I realised at this point, that Shep IS human, and that he is mortal.

It's not just that part though. Shepard is wracked by fear, doubt, and regret throughout the whole game. They went to a lot of effort to paint him with a very human brush this time around. The scene you mentioned is just final part: at the end Shepard is reduced to little more than his will.

[mimartin]

at the end Shepard is reduced to little more than his will.

Which is the reason I love the game so much and love movie characters like Indiana Jones and Jack Ryan so much. They did extraordinary things, but you always felt they were humans, not supermen with guns. I guess that is why I can forgive the ending somewhat for its short comings, because the ride up to that point was nearly perfect.

 

 

The dreams annoyed me even more then the ending my first time through. It wasn't until I accepted they were part of the game and really listen to the voices did I understand the meaning of the dreams. It also helped me understand (in my own mind) why Casper looked the way it did.

 

[Achilles]

They did extraordinary things, but you always felt they were humans, not supermen with guns.

This theme is especially prevalent in the sub-plot with James.

[Taak Farst]

Clicky, and yeah, it's real.

[Achilles]

“We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts"

 

Thanks guys.

[Taak Farst]

I was knocked off by that too. I always wanted something changed in the ending, but I didn't want it at the expense of other DLC, which is seemingly now the case. We only have ourselves to blame, though.

[mimartin]

Don't blame me.

[Lynk Former]

It's BioWare's fault for making the decision, they shouldn't have bowed to pressure in the first place.

[Achilles]

A fair point.

[DarthParametric]

By "reprioritized", I gather that just means they'll get that out the door first. All it will be is like a couple of minutes of cutscenes tacked on to the end to try and placate people. They aren't actually changing the ending. I doubt there will be much change in what other content they had planned. If anything they'll need more to make up for giving away that thing for free.

[Taak Farst]

It's BioWare's fault for making the decision, they shouldn't have bowed to pressure in the first place.

 

Clear example of the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario.

 

And does it seem to anyone else that Summer is a long wait for a few cut scenes?

[Lynk Former]

BioWare isn't the first developer to feel this kind of pressure and they're not going to be the last.

[DarthParametric]

And does it seem to anyone else that Summer is a long wait for a few cut scenes?

Not really. They didn't plan for it, so they have to start from scratch. Other DLC usually starts development before the game is released, so it is ready to go not long after launch.

[Achilles]

Clear example of the 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario.

Meh. In all fairness, it probably isn't that bad.

 

This sounds optional, so the people that like the game the way it is won't suffer anything other than a delay on DLC that they will probably buy anyway. On the other hand, some percentage of the people who felt the end needed more will get what they want. Granted some percentage won't, but I suspect that Bioware knows this already.

 

So they won't lose anything with the people that liked the game and might move a few more people into that category. Whether or not that number is sufficient to justify the odd precedent that they are setting will have to be determined later.

 

EDIT: Looks like there's a FAQ up already.

[mimartin]

Looks like there's a FAQ up already.

 

Nothing I can't live with there. Maybe they will have more Tail in the Extended Cut.

[Achilles]

My sources told me that they are saving that for the pay DLC. Apparently, there are plans for a mini-game involving the buttons on Tali's suit and some QTEs and a special "Achievement".

[Lynk Former]

My sources told me that they are saving that for the pay DLC. Apparently, there are plans for a mini-game involving the buttons on Tali's suit and some QTEs and a special "Achievement".

 

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[Prime]

It totally needs the fist pump QTE from Ace Combat: Assault Horizon.

 

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[mimartin]

I hope they also go back and fix the start of Mass Effect 2 (when the crew abandons Shepard) and Arrival (where Shepard gets knocked out and time passes without the player being able to see it). Then they can tackle the big stuff like making Mass Effect playable again.

[Lynk Former]

Next up from BioWare... MASS EFFECT TRILOGY using the updated ME3 engine reacreating the entire trilogy with all dlc included etc in a billion disc set (for 360 at least).

[Achilles]

I'll buy it so long as it includes an Extended Cut explanation for how "organic life is a genetic mutation" and a CE shot glass for when I feel like playing the Unofficial Mass Effect Drinking Game (drink once if a planet is either tidally locked or a captured object. Drink twice if it's both).