Chewie Bakker Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 There are aspects to the saberists code that I don't like. A FFA server is a Free For All, and there's an option to spectate. If you want to watch, choose "spectate" I believe that it's cowardly to attack a defenseless Jedi, but sitting in the middle of a FFA with your saber off? Unless trying to initiate a duel, sounds like stupidity to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted April 16, 2002 Author Share Posted April 16, 2002 *BUMP!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twins of Doom Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Originally posted by acdcfanbill actually, on my 800x600 screen, the links are covered by a pic... just thought i'd let you know... i'm updating it so that it will say "this web site works best in internet explorer 6.0 and 1240 X 768 and then it will say how to change to 1240 X 768;) but nobody answered my question..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[del] Twitch Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 I do like the idea of using the tag, to get to people to duel. Sometimes I want to duel, on a FFA, and don't know who to trust....so I don't bother. So I'll use it, for now at least. - [del]Twitch -SC- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Cyph Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Originally posted by Chewie Bakker There are aspects to the saberists code that I don't like. A FFA server is a Free For All, and there's an option to spectate. If you want to watch, choose "spectate" I believe that it's cowardly to attack a defenseless Jedi, but sitting in the middle of a FFA with your saber off? Unless trying to initiate a duel, sounds like stupidity to me. Read the JDG Code It says in there that don't expect the code to be followed in a public FFA server that makes no mention of it. Originally from the JDG Code Most of these can ONLY apply to a public or private server that makes mention to the -SC- or [JDG] rules. If you're on a FFA server that doesn't make any reference to either, play however you like, but remove the -SC- or [JDG] tag from your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 However, I've already kicked 3 people for laming on my SC/JDG server 2 of them came back and played nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Originally posted by Soul-Burn However, I've already kicked 3 people for laming on my SC/JDG server 2 of them came back and played nicely. There, you see? What kind of lamer just kicks someone out of their server for killing them? You people talk about your imaginary honor, but when it comes down to it, you're just another whiner with rcon privileges. How about showing some balls and trying to kill them instead of kicking them? If you suceed, then they'll leave on their own, beaten and embarassed. All you're proving by kicking them is that you can't handle tactics outside your ruleset. You'll never get any respect like that. Not from me, nor anyone else that doesn't bend knee to your so-called Code of (dis)Honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacMeth Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 world war III ASC vs SC damn its a game G-A-M-E ppl play games for FUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 It's my ****ing server. Whatever!! I can do what I want!! BacMeth, you're 100% right.. and what I find fun is playing with nice people and not people who play against the server rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Originally posted by Soul-Burn It's my ****ing server. Whatever!! I can do what I want!! BacMeth, you're 100% right.. and what I find fun is playing with nice people and not people who play against the server rules. That's right, you have the ability to be as much of a no-skill, kick-happy lamer as you want on your own server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 A. I can win against you any day. B. I don't like wasting my bandwidth on people like that. C. You are not worth my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Originally posted by Soul-Burn A. I can win you any day. A. I can good english you any day. B. I don't like wasting my bandwidth on people like that. C. You are not worth my words. Please do post whatever server it is that you infest. Maybe I'll drop in sometime and say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyunch Click Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Quick question from the peanut gallery: So when are you two: Soul-burn and Artifex, going to duel? I mean, so far you've had this great cross thread war going, ( I've had to go for popcorn at least 3 times), since it appears that you have these differences that will never be settled by words, may I recommend deeds? Try a neutral server, agreeable to the both of you, settle on a force level and weapons, demo the matches, say best of 7 and then post links in a new thread. While it would end the drama that has been going on for multiple pages in multiple threads it would finally close the incessant "I'm more leet than you" bit that seems to have taken root here recently. Then again, I've just been lurking, reading and shaking my head at the whole state of affairs. What do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFJake Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Hey, my brother told me all about the Saberist Code and I started following it, I think it is fun, I like duelling... I like it because I don't like to run around at try to get as many frags as possible because I don't think I can become a better player by doing that. I duel and watch to learn. Rasta's Chilling Grounds is the very best server! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 Click, it's not that these are "two forces roaming the boards" but two opposing concepts: 1. Having Fun, and trying to make everyone have fun. 2. Take everything so seriously and think that ruining everyone's fun is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Originally posted by Fyunch Click Quick question from the peanut gallery: So when are you two: Soul-burn and Artifex, going to duel? I accept all challenges. Full-force Saber-only, No-Force all Weapons or any combination thereof. Doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyunch Click Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 I do understand that it is two concepts, I don't need you to explain what is going on here. I believe that it is quite apparent as to what is going on here, but thanks for offering. I should probably remove my earlier post as it was an attempt at levity, with an undercurrent of seriousness to it. While, I have followed your posts and the "concept" since it's inception, my point in my post was to say: Look, you two aren't going to change each other's minds. That should be readily apparent to a frozen mammoth by now. Since the concept of the Saberist code is out there now and since the concept of the anti-Saberist code is out there: Could you guys give it a rest for a while? Or perhaps tone done the vitriol? You don't agree. It is highly unlikely you WILL ever agree. For those of us who found it humorous in the beginning it is now old and tired. Live by your own codes. Who gives a crap what someone else thinks about your code? It is yours, not theirs. It will not damage you in the slightist. Artifex has already stated that he wont smurf using the sc tag so don't worry. Please, just give it a rest. Some of us are bored with it, not all of us, as I'm sure there will be many who flame me for this; but some of us are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Overlord Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 I have seen wisdom. Fyunch Click is right. You must do what you think is right, and kick anyone who puts you down, proving you are a better player for your experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Artifex I am with you brother. I fully support what you are saying. It's like this - the server sets the rules as to kill limits / force levels / and weapon choices. So if you are one of those people that constantly complain about someone using guns on you, go to a Saber only server. Or start investing some force points in Pull to disarm those guns. I don't see Anakin or Luke Skywalker saying "but this is star wars, please don't use guns on me you dishonorable storm troopers..pretty please". Same with people who don't like getting pushed off ledges or gripped. Either invest some points in Absorb or go to server without force powers. But I am sick of these people going to a public server and trying to tell others how to play the game. These fu**ing NAZI's need to grow up. Now they want to form their little Nazi party and start kicking anyone who isn't part of it from PUBLIC servers. They want to take over these PUBLIC servers. Down to Hell with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul-Burn Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 Spidey, Artifex is against that even in PRIVATE SERVERS, where the admin set these rules. He said he's gonna go to these servers where the admins set the rules and lame around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Jeebus, people! just have fun! all this "code" stuff is for losers and geeks with no life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Cyph Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by Ikhnaton Jeebus, people! just have fun! all this "code" stuff is for losers and geeks with no life! Heh, read the thread again please? I have fun dueling. Therefore I started a Guild for people who like Dueling as well. I'm having fun. I don't think its been said anywhere in this thread that we aren't having fun. Oh, I do have a life by the way. I do things other than sit on my computer all day. I go out driving, visit my friends, and go into the city often. Yet I want to have a Code that hopefully some others and I can play by, to have more fun in game. So, I guess your whole "all this code stuff is for losers and geeks with no life!" just got countered. Originally posted by Spidey But I am sick of these people going to a public server and trying to tell others how to play the game. These fu**ing NAZI's need to grow up. Now they want to form their little Nazi party and start kicking anyone who isn't part of it from PUBLIC servers. They want to take over these PUBLIC servers. I don't know whether to laugh at you, or feel sorry for you, for the fact you called us nazis. I think I'll laugh. I don't go into servers, and tell others how to play the game. If I go into a server, I give out pointers to new players (as in how to do moves, string combos together, taunt, etc), and have a ball doing so, because I know that eventually I'll help them so much that they beat me, and that makes me feel good knowing I've been able to help someone. Form a Nazi party? Hardly. I started the JDG simply for people to join if they like Dueling. Kicking anyone who isn't part of it from public servers? Right, and you've only got Soul-Burn's post saying he kicked two people because they weren't playing by the house rules on his SC/JDG server. So, they got kicked, for not following the server rules. There isn't anything too hard about that to understand is there? Take over public servers? Seriously, what ever gave you that idea. Public servers are for everyone to play on, providing they follow the servers House rules. If they don't follow them, by either not knowing, or deliberately breaking them, generally, what else would you expect to happen? It's like people going onto a CS server with friendly fire on, deliberately teamkilling, getting kicked or banned, and then having a cry saying "I didn't know" even when its clearly stated in the MOTD of the server thats its friendly fire, and you'll be kicked or banned for team killing. Originally posted by ArtifeX There, you see? What kind of lamer just kicks someone out of their server for killing them? You people talk about your imaginary honor, but when it comes down to it, you're just another whiner with rcon privileges He kicked people for not following the servers house rules. Is that so hard to understand? I don't condone kicking people without giving them some warning. If they continue to do what was an offense against the server rules, then you kick them. Heck, if the server rules were "no bowing, anything goes", I'd obviously just not bow, and accept anything that happens. I'd have fun doing so too. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullseye_the_gr Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 i agree with the code and will follow it from now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by Soul-Burn Spidey, Artifex is against that even in PRIVATE SERVERS, where the admin set these rules. He said he's gonna go to these servers where the admins set the rules and lame around. Just exactly how am i going to get into a private server without the password? You -SC- losers should be free to prance about and hug each other while under the protection of a passworded server. Unless, of course, I find out the password. Then I consider that a license to rape and pillage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by Obi-Cyph It's like people going onto a CS server with friendly fire on, deliberately teamkilling, getting kicked or banned, and then having a cry saying "I didn't know" even when its clearly stated in the MOTD of the server thats its friendly fire, and you'll be kicked or banned for team killing. What kind of admin would turn on friendly fire then threaten to kick anyone who kills a teammate? He kicked people for not following the servers house rules. Is that so hard to understand? I don't condone kicking people without giving them some warning. If they continue to do what was an offense against the server rules, then you kick them. Heck, if the server rules were "no bowing, anything goes", I'd obviously just not bow, and accept anything that happens. I'd have fun doing so too. *shrug* I know it's complicated, so I'll go reeeal slow. If you want to duel all friendly-like with your -SC- bend-over-buddies, then... Run... A... Duel... Server... ...and set up the rules the way you want. That way, the "house rules" are inherent to the gametype. But, if you make the eggregious error of standing around with your saber off waiting to duel in an FFA gametype, then... Don't... B1tch... When... I... Kick... Your... Ass. I will use any means allowed within the gametype rules to turn you into paste. If weapons are on, I might just shoot you with a rocket. If full force is on, I may use push to throw you off a ledge. The end result is the same, I get a kill off of you, and you most likely start b1tching about how I'm, "NOT FOLLOWING THE CODE!!" Grow some balls. Don't get mad and kick me--I'll just laugh at you even harder. Get even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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