MaulerZ Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by whitedragon im jokeing around. why not make fun of me Why are you giving me ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by MaulerZ13 Why are you giving me ideas *activates lightsaber* oh just looking for an excuse. btw cant you think of something more origienal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 MaulerZ13 is using Tyrions method of ascending the ranks in a matter of days. I get up the next morning and he's already a sithlord. I been here since June and I think I post too much:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 I couldn't vote!:(I've read the first two books, but not the third, and there was no option for that on the poll:(... So I voted secret option number 5...can you guess what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 YODA?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 gandalf > yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by XERXES gandalf > yoda Oh yeah, I forgot. Maybe I should get the audio books and listen to them in my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubatus Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Just a few notes to Xerxes' presentation of the whole balrog wings and size argument. Just like Melkor created dragons both with and without wings so too could it be with balrogs. But in opposition to dragons being made of flesh balrogs are twisted spirits of fire and in combination with the manipulative 'living' shadow of which they consist they are probably flexible when it comes to size and shape. Like their master, Melkor, they can probably adjust their size greatly at will and their wings might be conjured by will too. Perhaps the wings of a balrog has no practical use but to add to their terror like men of status use cloaks to embellish their position. Maybe the unique use of these wings is to envelop an opponent to fully surround her with their terrible presence. Willpower is a very important part of Tolkien's universe. It is willpower more than anything makes the heroes of his world face up to and overcome the evil terrors brought forth by Melkor and his lieutenant Sauron. Great wings looming over its enemies would definately add to the willcrushing terror of a balrog. As to Gandalf coming flying down the steps, to fly is an old term for fleeing as Gandalf uses himself; 'Fly! This is a foe beyond any of you. I must hold the narrow way. Fly!' and 'Fly, you fools!' - both quotes taken from the book as the fellowship encounters the balrog. Gandalf is more powerful than he lets on and maybe, just maybe, he has the power to fly if thus inclined but in this instance I think he's just fleeing. Just my thoughts and ideas on the matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Great books. Read. Capish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Sorry to say, but I've never read further than 100 pages in FOTR... I got bored with it, simply. Whereas "The hobbit" is easy to catch on with and full of excitement from the start, LOTR is incredibly heavy and tedious to read in the beginning. I'm the quite the heathen in my RPG group because I haven't read LOTR, but all that have read it agree that it is very heavy and boring to read throughout the saga, specifically in the start. The hobbit is much easier to swallow and in most cases better written, at least it didn't got me unhinged in the start, considering I was 9 years old when I read it. Did you guys know that Tolkien first invented the elven language, and *then* decided to make a world for it to be placed in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teutonicknight Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 I've read the LOTR trilogy 3 times. The hobbit 2 times and the silmarillion 1/2 times:o Never got to finishing it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Nebelwerfer_ i personally have read them all, except the silmarilion so youve read unfinished tales and NOT the silmarillion? that sounds a bit strange to me! iv read all the LORD books and also the silmarillion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaulerZ Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by whitedragon *activates lightsaber* oh just looking for an excuse. btw cant you think of something more origienal Are you trying to say yours is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by MaulerZ13 Are you trying to say yours is? ok ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 werd jubatus. The wings are probably also to intimidate potential enemies. note: I did not come up with that, i got it from a website/middle earth eneyclopedia it is extreemly interesting PM me for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 whitedragon, mauler will you guys just chill out? Its a frikkin sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Slayne Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Yep, I've read most of Tolkien's stuff. Most exellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Starblazer Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 I've read "The Hobbit" and the three "The Lord of the Rings" books. I read "The Hobbit" about 2 years ago, and read the trilogy last summer, in anticipation of the movie. I borrowed the books off my friends, but last week, I ordered the two books, and they're now here. Yes two books, not four. I got "The Hobbit" and I got the unabridged version of "The Lord of the Rings", mostly because I just wanted to get that original style, big honkin' book I'm reading "The Hobbit" again now, and then will move on to "The Lord of the Rings" afterwords. I plan on picking it up at least once a year, probably a while before each movie comes out. I really love this story, and if you've seen the movies but have not read the books, I recommend you read them, for it will give you a much better understanding of the movies. EDIT: On a side note as some others have mentioned, not only did Tolkien write the books in his spare time, and created the languages first, that's the reason why he wrote the books. He wrote "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" in order to give credit and background to his created languages. Did you know that he was an English Proffesor? Oh and another thing, ever read the bible? Guess who you have to thank for translating it...? Yep, you guessed it. Most modern versions of the Holy book are based on translations by none other than J.R.R. Tolkien himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by XERXES whitedragon, mauler will you guys just chill out? Its a frikkin sig. hey were just playing around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-=Chi3f=- v.2 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Originally posted by Nebelwerfer_ i personally have read them all, except the silmarilion Yup, read them all and love them all, much more thatn the movie. But I think that the movie is the best it could be and does justice to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 i always thought balrogs were twisted maias or melkors followers and they took the form with shadow and the fire whip because thats the form they wish the world to see them and thats what they see themselves and over time this twisted their 'soul' or whatever they have and they kept that form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 i read all the books except the history of middleearth series which was really..really ...uh...in-depth, and the movie was great. it did the books justice....unlike that other cartoon movie ....*shivers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[RAA]-=Chi3f=- Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Originally posted by thehomicidalegg i read all the books except the history of middleearth series which was really..really ...uh...in-depth, and the movie was great. it did the books justice....unlike that other cartoon movie ....*shivers* Yeah the cartoons give me the chills too. Maybe they'll release a megapack with all the movies including the toons. *shivers* I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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