Rancilk Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 *cough*Good? Don't know about you but the word "Light Saber" doesnt seem to properly show on 1.4 i mean come on the thing is a laser for god sake IT SHOULD ONE HIT like 1.2, but anyway this is multiplayer strategies right? so il ask something How in the World you get good at 1.4,Play like 1.3 Newbies?im so confused,Remenber in 1.3? When u get grip and push you off the edge You actualy could save yourself out of it!But i realized that in 1.4 Once there a newbies behind you u get screwed....So A FFA i should just DFA forever.....Il say it Again,The Thing is a Saber,CTF is the most frustrating mode of jk2 i ever played , Team Energize and Team Healing is there a way to kill a Carrier?Well there always the kick + DFA but this might take forever anyway if any of you guys got good tip for 1.4 well tell me em because right now i believe this game getting worse on evry patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerowingzero Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Bah i'm not geting payed enough to promote Promod. Maybe i should just put it in my sig or something. K if 1.04 was a jk2 player and so was Promod 1.04 would be like "haha fag i am offical" and Promod would be like "My saber combat system makes the lightsaber more than a plastic glowing stick" and then 1.04 would try to DFA promod while it is typeing, and promod would dodge and hit 1.04 in the back. Anyway get Promod, removes all random encounters and makes all outcomes relayant on skill. offical site: http://www.oculis.org/promod/ (it's not working) Place to find promod servers: http://www.qtracker.com search for jk2 games and sort by mod. Place to download at jkii.net: http://www.jediknightii.net/files/index.php?link=file&id=902 Read the readme!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teutonicknight Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Hm... do you just copy paste you ads in every post? Yeah, try out promod, it's great:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerowingzero Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Lol actually i wrote this one first, and rather than typeing the whole thing again, i copy and pasted it and got called a punk. you heard me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Maximus Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Another thing to do would be to ask the server to set this: seta g_saberdamagescale "2" seta g_saberboxtracesize "-1" seta g_saberdmgvelocityscale "1.2" seta g_saberdmgdelay_idle "350" seta g_saberdmgdelay_wound "0" seta g_saberghoul2collision "1" seta g_sabertracesaberfirst "1" seta _saberalwaysboxtrace "1" Now you have a lightsaber again without loading promod. Try it for yourself in a lan server. Bet you will like it. Not as complete as promod but its way better than stock 1.04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashRam Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 agreed. Pro mod is much better then any of the patched versions of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Originally posted by FlashRam agreed. Pro mod is much better then any of the patched versions of the game. Now if whiners would take note that promod is the solution and stop whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Originally posted by zerowingzero Bah i'm not geting payed enough to promote Promod. than stop it all i've heard about it is that it's all that's bad about 1.4 and that kind of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerowingzero Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Originally posted by Lightning than stop it all i've heard about it is that it's all that's bad about 1.4 and that kind of stuff Huh? Jedimod> 1.04 Promod> 1.04 Your responce= unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by Sith Maximus Another thing to do would be to ask the server to set this: seta g_saberdamagescale "2" seta g_saberboxtracesize "-1" seta g_saberdmgvelocityscale "1.2" seta g_saberdmgdelay_idle "350" seta g_saberdmgdelay_wound "0" seta g_saberghoul2collision "1" seta g_sabertracesaberfirst "1" seta _saberalwaysboxtrace "1" Now you have a lightsaber again without loading promod. Try it for yourself in a lan server. Bet you will like it. Not as complete as promod but its way better than stock 1.04. I tried these settings and they do indeed make 1.04 much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 With QTracker, how is it possible to filter Promod servers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtifeX Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 To sort out ProMod servers in qtracker, just click on the "game" column header at the top of the table, then scroll through the list. It should now be sorted alphabetically by gamedir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Another thing to do would be to ask the server to set this: seta g_saberdamagescale "2" seta g_saberboxtracesize "-1" seta g_saberdmgvelocityscale "1.2" seta g_saberdmgdelay_idle "350" seta g_saberdmgdelay_wound "0" seta g_saberghoul2collision "1" seta g_sabertracesaberfirst "1" seta _saberalwaysboxtrace "1" Now you have a lightsaber again without loading promod. Try it for yourself in a lan server. Bet you will like it. Not as complete as promod but its way better than stock 1.04. I know what g_saberdamagescale, g_saberghoul2collision, g_sabertracesaberfirst do, but could someone fill me in on what the others do? Thanks for any help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Originally posted by Prime I know what g_saberdamagescale, g_saberghoul2collision, g_sabertracesaberfirst do, but could someone fill me in on what the others do? Thanks for any help... I asked the same question on the coding forum and here is AsK's reply pasted in: g_saberBoxTraceSize: defines a box size for tracing saber hits box size is controlled using these other variables: g_saberghoul2collision makes the trace box bigger by 3 times g_saberghoul2collision enables Ghoul2 engine usage while calculating collisions, making the model bounding box very close to the model outline, instead of being just a BOX And it also makes blocks harder to execute. g_saberdmgvelocityscale: controls the knockback you experience when hit by a saber g_saberdmgdelay_idle: once in how many milliseconds (or rather the units which level.time is calculated in) damage the other player if the saber is touching him g_saberdmgdelay_wound: defines the delay for dealing damage after the saber hit the player. g_sabertracesaberfirst: from a peek that I saw, it disables the tracing of saber against another saber hit. The behavior of the saber is then the same as in duels. g_saberalwaysboxtrace: forces the trace to be always as if the player is using the fast (blue) stance of the saber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvuk Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 g_saberdmgvelocityscale: try setting this to something like 25000. I did it in a 16 player FFA server (and changed the map to duel_bespin) and it was hilarious :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Thanks Darth Kaan, I appreciate the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 Does it do any good to use these settings if the server does not have them set ? Can a client use saberdamagescale "4" on a server where it is set to "1"? I don't think it can, but what do I know Iam an old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 That is correct griff38. If you are playing on another server that doesn't have them set, your settings won't be used. They will be used if you are fighting bots or set up your own server. That is why I am "frustrated" that more 1.04 servers don't have increased saber damamge (g_saberdamagescale 2 or greater). From what I've seen pretty much everyone agrees that the saber needs to do more damage. This is one obvious solution, but most servers just have it set to 1. Just my pet peeve I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 just remember that g_XXXXXXXX cvars are all serverside settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Got it, thanks. Yea, I mean come on I want my saber to kill with 1 stroke more often than not. When I run my server I have saberdamagescale at the maximum "4" and I set cg_dismemberment and c_dismemberment to "100". If you have never played this way you really owe it to yourself to give it a try. My ip: 66.177.42.28 All are welcome "Its awlays Darkest just before the Light." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehomicidalegg Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 g_dismember 100-300 : server cg_dismember 1-3 : client 0 turns it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Your welcome Prime, glad I could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMule Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Originally posted by Prime That is why I am "frustrated" that more 1.04 servers don't have increased saber damamge (g_saberdamagescale 2 or greater). From what I've seen pretty much everyone agrees that the saber needs to do more damage. Originally posted by griff38 Yea, I mean come on I want my saber to kill with 1 stroke more often than not. Wasn't the whole idea of 1.04 to move away from overpowered saber fights, where everyone, including noobs, just had a bunch of scripted-to-hell movesets, and people rarely used any of the rest of the weapons? I agree with fixing it so that when some punk gets behind you, you're not jacked over from their grip, but the rest is crap. I don't want a bunch of loser noobs ganging up on me with sabers in a confined space, and not being able to get out of it because they can kill me in just one slash. That's bull. If you're skilled, you can do just fine with a weaker saber. My brother tore it up in an FFA game. He was kicking the collective arses of at least 4 lame saber-scripters on there, usually with weapons OTHER than the saber. If all you can do is push one button, you need to climb back on your short bus and go home. Sorry, but it just can't be said enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I understand what youre saying "TheMule", for me though saberdamagescale "4" and max dismemberment most closely resembles what it must have really been like in the days of the Japanese sword masters. They did no swordfighting, they swung for the body not the opponents sword. I know I know, what the sith has Japanese swordmasters got to do with this game........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMule Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Nothing wrong with dismemberment, it's the saber power thing that keeps bugging me... If it becomes that strong, other weapons are direly outmoded, save for sniping, and those occasional long shots with the missile/heavy repeater secondary fire. If we wanted to be realistic and have one-slash saber kills, we really oughta make the weapons one-shot kills too, unless you have shields. Whatever happened to BALANCE??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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