Matt-Liell Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Have u ever not understood something in Star Wars? Ill try to answer your questions if u have any and maybe we'll all learn something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 yeah in episode II in the scene where yoda was concentrating through the force why did we hear Qui Gon Jin say "No Anakin No!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-Liell Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 u mean when qui gon says it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Even though I have my own version of what I think it means, I would like to hear what you think the whole 'Luke in the swamp on Degobah going into the darkside forest and cutting off Vaders head and it turning out to be his face thing' means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Originally posted by Matt-Liell Arroblade u mean when qui gon says it? yeah through the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I´ve read about this, Yoda was very concerned about hering his voice. It was something about that one who has became one with the force could never retain his former identity (like Obi Wan when hes a spirit). While meditating, Yoda had felt a traumatic event befall young Anakin Skywalker. At that very moment, he also heard the voice of Qui-Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master slain a decade previous. It was impossible for a Jedi to retain his identity after becoming one with the Force, yet he had heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-Liell Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 -s/<itzo- - what is happening is that anakin is slowly making his way to the dark side and yoda is hearing jumbles of his pain and suffering and other events of his life through the feelings of anakin! (well to my greatest knowledge) leXX- i think its cause luke is slowly gaining the power of the force and though he doesnt know about the realuty of his father the force is trying to convey to him that vader is in some way "him" later we find out that hes his father! and also because his desanty was slowly leaning towards taking his fathers place because of his attitude towards learning the force! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekx Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 I didn't understand what Qui-Gon was doing at the end of EP1, he was either begging for his life infront of Maul or getting microwaved in the red glowy thingy. In the end I found out he was meditating Still confused me at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-Liell Posted November 23, 2002 Author Share Posted November 23, 2002 ya he was meditating! but it didnt help him then did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 the way i see it lexx luke struck darthy down in anger .... and so .... was darthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 My take on the Degobah cave is that yoda told luke that what was in there was only what he took with him. Therefore when Luke chose to take his weapons he was bringing his aggression and his lack of trust in with him. Then when he sees vader he is the first to strike, and cuts off his head with his anger and aggression. The resultant explosion exposing Vader's face to be his own is showing him that in using his aggression and hate he begins down the same path that vader took. And that quote you gave Matt-Liell is from the Episode 2 Novel, not canon, and therefore is not really able to be used for an argument concerning events in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-Liell Posted November 23, 2002 Author Share Posted November 23, 2002 the quote i gave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 i agree ET .... thats what i was saying .... only with more words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Well, what about the fact that Qui-gon, at the end of Episode 1, when killed, did not become one with the force. When Jedis die, their spirit leaves their physical body, and so the body disappears. It happened with Yoda, and Obi-wan, so why didn't it happen with Qui-gon? I think this somehow links into the voice we hear of Qui-gon in Episode 2 somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olo Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 OK Matt-Liell, in the original episodes 4-6 I always wondered if Leia wore a thong or not? Do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Originally posted by Olo OK Matt-Liell, in the original episodes 4-6 I always wondered if Leia wore a thong or not? Do you know? i'm not sure about that, but i know she wasn't allowed to wear a bra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpYzEr Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Originally posted by Olo OK Matt-Liell, in the original episodes 4-6 I always wondered if Leia wore a thong or not? Do you know? In ROTJ in the Jabba scene, she didnt seem to wear anything under that thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Sorry Matt-liell.....someone else gave that quote......my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 My theroy on that whole "One with the Force" thing is that perhaps only the most powerful and force consious (prepared) Jedi can project themselves from beyond the grave. If the Jedi isn't prepared to die, or powerful enough they simply cannot project themselves from beyond Just my theroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightspeed Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Well I definately learned something (assuming all this is true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekx Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 On Qui-Gon not appearing as a Spirit... I remember finding a site that featured all the midiclorian counts for all Jedi / Sith a while ago.. According to that Qui-Gon didn't have very many (Obi-wan had a lot more, about double) so it might have something to do with how many midichlorians they have. I never understood what the first words Bib Fortuna said.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 I'm responding to the Luke Dagobah scene. From what I read somewhere it says that Dagobah was a very dark planet. It had a lot of negativity and the Dark Side. That was why Yoda chose to reside there cause they could not sense him over all the Dark Side stuff. I also agree with the previouse post's about Luke and it showing him that he was slowly following the path of his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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