Concerning the media's bad view on video games

[RpTheHotrod]

Sick of these people who bad mouth everything while they don't even do research about things.

 

I agree about GTA III and that's about it. When it comes to prostution and sex, that's just wrong for minors to be seeing.

 

Now, onto game violence.

 

"Games are training kids to become killers!"

WRONG! *sigh* If a person ends up killing someone after a video game, it was NOT the game, the person was ALREADY a killer inside, and it just eventually came out. Proof? I play TONS of games, and am I thinking of killing people? Of coarse not! it isn't inside me.

 

Guns don't kill people, people do...

Games don't kill people, people do!

 

The problem is NOT video games. They already have murdered in their heart. The problem lies on how the person was raised, more than likely. Killers are killers, killers arn't put into training first (talking about criminal killers, not military).

 

"Oh! it's horrible! He learned how to use a sniper rifle after playing Counter-Strike and blew everyone away!" Ummm..lady...or..whatever you are... you can't "learn" how to use ANY weapon from a stupid video game. It's unreaslistic. Even most FLIGHT simulators can't even teach REAL PILOTS how to pilot well. They need actual flying experience...feel the...whatever they feel up there. If someone fired a gun in real life after playing Counter-Strike, they would be in for one BIG suprise...heh, they probably wouldn't even get the thing to shoot since the safety might be on. "Hey! My guns bugged! It won't shoot!"

 

It's a GAME. It isn't real life. If someone ends up killing or going crazy from a video game, they are simply stupid/moronic/idiotic and especially NOT MATURE...pick whichever applys. If they arn't mature enough to handle a simple video game, then they shouldn't be playing them. However, for the rest of us, it's just a game.

 

Now let's go play Jedi Knight II and cut eachothers arms off...ya never know, we might be training to actually use the force someday!

[Lunatic Jedi]

[standing ovation] BRAVO! W00T W00T! [/standing ovation]

 

Fantastic. Yes, I do agree with you. If some 13-year old kid shoots up his school because he saw it in an M-rated game, its not the game's fault. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PLAYING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! Don't the parents ever take responsibility for what their kids see?

 

I'll admit, I played my first M-rated game when I was about 10, (Perfect Dark) but that's because my mom knew I was mature enough to handle it. I've been playing my fair share of M-rated games, and I don't have any desire to savagely slaughter anybody.

 

People who have violent tendencies because they are violent people, not because they play violent games. If anything, games will keep people from being violent in reality, because they provide a healthy outlet for anger. If you blow off the head of a person who doesn't actually exist, your bloodlust will be satiated and you won't have an urge to do it to a real person.

 

As for those Columbine kids, did anybody notice that they were already ****ING PSYCHOS?! They were so insane that they finally snapped. The fact that they played Doom had nothing to do with it. The kids were keeping weapons stashes in their rooms, and one of the kids' father FOUND IT AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. Wouldn't it worry you if you found a bunch of sawed-off shotguns in your kid's dresser? Wouldn't it maybe prompt you to talk to you kid? Not even a little? Apparently it didn't for that guy. If Columbine was anybody's fault, it was that of the parents. You could tell they really didn't care until their kids murdered their classmates.

 

And just to let everybody know, GAMES DON'T TEACH YOU TO FIRE GUNS! If you went to the arcade and played a few games of Silent Scope, then went out and tried to shoot somebody with a real sniper rifle, the recoil would probably break your wrist, and make you completely miss the target and shoot the little metal flag off a mailbox somewhere. Games usually don't simulate recoil, and the few that do (like Time Crisis 2) don't simulate it accurately. In the arcade version of TC2, the gun jolts a little bit as the bar thingy on top moves each time you shoot. That's not how a gun really recoils.

 

In conclusion, somebody needs to show people that games don't make people insane or violent, and don't teach them how to use weapons. And when they do, its because that person shouldn't have been playing that game in the first place. Its the parents' responsibility to control what kind of things their children are exposed to. What puzzles me the most is why whenever something like Columbine happens, games are always pinned as the problem. Don't they ever target the more OBVIOUS mediums, like TV or movies? Kids see much worse violence in those forms of media than in any video game.

[teutonicknight]

I agree. If someone plays an M-rated game and starts thinking about killing poeple, then they shouldn't be playing the game in the first place.

[Clemme w/Stick]

I can only agree to this! Well, think that we havent had stuff like this in Denmark yet....*phew*! You know kids shooting up ppl at school!

 

-Clemme

[thehomicidalegg]

Video games don't kill people, People kill People:D

[Lunatic Jedi]

Exactly.

[GonkH8er]

Scott Miller put it nicely when he said, “Blaming video games, movies or music wrongly shifts responsibility away from the person who committed the act and the person's custodians. We seem to live in a society in which people do not accept personal responsibility."

 

Here's one from Matt Grose

 

“The entertainment industry is not responsible for raising your kids. They are there to entertain people, that is their job and it is what they are paid to do. What they are not paid to do is, tell your kids the difference between right and wrong, baby-sit them, or make sure your children are not getting into trouble. I am not trying to say that parents are fully responsible for their child's actions. But I now know, it is not the entertainment industry's fault that these things happen in our society.”

 

 

I did a huge essay on this topic a year or 2 back. I'll see if I can find it

[Luc Solar]

Too bad that no-one will contest the stuff said above. I'd love to hear the arguments of some "concerner mother" who thinks all video games should be banned.

 

Blaming video games for the actions of some psycho is so retarded that I get upset even thinking about it.

[Sir Brass]

I'll save y'all the disertation and just get straight to the point. I agree with everything you people have just said. It goes along with my way of thinking, so I have no counter arguements to make. He!!, my mother, if she saw this, wouldn't argue with y'all, b/c she'd agree (many concerned mothers are concerned with why the blame isn't being properly laid on the parents of these psycho kids) with y'alls' statements.

 

Guns don't kill people.

Video games don't kill people.

The government executes people, but only

PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE! Stop laying the blame on video games, ya lawsuit-loving lawyers!

 

 

-this post full of grammatical error was brought to you by "I don't give a flying f*ck", the motto of all college students currently enjoying their winter break.

[vegietto]

ppl kill ppl and your right video games don't kill ppl it just maked them lazy

[C'jais]

Yes, I agree with everything said above.

 

To make it more spicy, what are your opinions on including sex and prostitution in games? Does it screw with people's mindsets as much as the concerned mothers claim violence does (which it obviously doesn't)?

 

Me, I'm all for swearing and sex in games - if children get bad morale from it, they were something wrong with them in the first place.

[lightspeed]

These are all great points and all of them are very true...but i'm afraid to point out that this is NOT going to stop the media since I doubt they visit lucasforums on a regular basis.

 

So how about we start thinking about how to get the media's attention since there not listening to any of this at the moment. There's always the phone calls,petitions and chain letters so maybe if we all start spammng the sources of this junk constantly then maybe something might happen!

 

Well I'm sure this was a completely useless post but I needed to let off a little steam

 

OK, I'm back to being myself now:o

[Taos]

Originally posted by GonkH8er

Scott Miller put it nicely when he said, “Blaming video games, movies or music wrongly shifts responsibility away from the person who committed the act and the person's custodians. We seem to live in a society in which people do not accept personal responsibility."

 

 

 

I think this quote here from Gonk sums up my feelings best......

[RoguePhotonic]

I think if anything violence in games is a good thing....then people that want to kill people can take the anger out in games and not otherwise........

[RpTheHotrod]

Why I'm against cursing and sex in games?

 

Killing is obviously a no-no and isn't everyday life to kids thinking...however, sex and cursing can make kids (from games AND movies) think that it is a normal, everyday thing, and that something is wrong with you if you arn't having sex 24/7. (STOP DROOLING!)

 

Seriously though, I've met so many kids in tears because they arn't having the sex life "everyone else" (from watching movies) enjoys. I'm from a place where it's common for 13 year olds to have frequent sex.

 

BTW, just for fun, I was browsing through those online dating things to meet people, just for fun...and I came across a kid posting on it...here is his statement

 

"most of all i want somebody who really cares and isn't just in it for a one-night or two-week fling.i love flirting and if you can do that then more power to you.i hate flambauyant guys and i steer very far away from them cause they annoy me..and if you enjoy the weekend clubs and wild crazy times..then don't bother..i have met enough coked up jerks in my lifetime "

 

btw, this is a boy...

[Sir Brass]

Rp, I agree with you as well. Sex and such does not belong in video games which many kids will find appealing (and if it has sex in it, then kids will finid it appealing), though violence is acceptable in certain games, since video game violence can be a healthy way of releasing pent up anger. I once was really pissed at my parents for something, and instead of losing my temper, I silently went up to my room, booted up Return to Castle Wolfenstein and MASSACRED the living daylights out of every nazi I saw in the single player game (this was when I didn't even dream of going online with the game b/c of my 56k hookup). And ya know what, within 20 minutes I had calmed down and was able to think much more clearly. However, sex and such in video games have the opposite effect, b/c they make kids imagine that what they're seeing is normal, when in fact its extreme fantasy. I'm proud to say that even though I'm in that age range which can be touched by sex, etc. in video games and be influenced by it, I have resisted it. I know its fantasy, and that no one in reality really has that kind of a sex life (except for pimps, whores, and brothel maddams, and all of those are really shady and sick minded folk, usually). However, like you said, many kids get the wrong idea and think that the sex lives of people on TV (especially in those soap operas, my gosh those are the WORST!) and in video games is normal. So, I'm not against violence in video games, and pro parental supervision, but against lots of sex and prostitution in video games.