Lynk Former Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Okay now the release of Ep I and II has basically screwed all the Extended Universe stuff to hell Some may hate how it's done that some like it, some don't like it but don't mind cause small things like Coruscant were included But anywayz... there is one thing in Episode 2 that has me a LITTLE confused... The Swoop Anakin used to search for his mum on Tatooine... Is the Swoop an official creation or an extended universe creation? I can trace the creation of the Swoop back to Shadows of the Empire but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 what about ROTJ, those wheren't really swoop bikes, but they shure looked like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 2, 2003 Author Share Posted February 2, 2003 those were military speeder bikes i'm talkin bout Swoops, the speeders best described as 'engines with seats' the fast mutherbitches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegietto Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 the swoop is not that bad of a vehicles to drive when u look at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 yes, i know, i've read SOTE too:p but they do have a certain resemblemce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 2, 2003 Author Share Posted February 2, 2003 yeah, they're both speeders, but the Swoop is about a million times more faster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 I'd say that Lucas used the Swoop idea from EU in the movies. But EU originally got the idea of Swoops from the speeder bikes in the movies. So really he got the idea thirdhand from himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well the swoops really have a story in themselves... I mean the Z-95 came from the idea of the X-Wing but it's never gonna be used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 The swoop bikes can also be seen in A New Hope Special Edition as Luke, Obi-Wan, C3-PO and R2-D2 pull into Mos Eisley in Luke's speeder. The swoop bike riders (part of the gang that go after Luke in Shadows of the Empire, if I remember correctly) frighten the big Ronto with the Jawa (I think) rider falling off, remember? In the same scene if you look really close, you can see Dash rendar's Outrider pulling away in the background as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well I guess Shadows of the Empire IS accepted by Lucas or at least LucasFilm... it's strange though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Yeah, I know. Maybe it's something to do with the way that Shadows of the Empire was made. It was actually agreed with LucasFilms that the story would be made into a book, a comic, and a game (but not a film) that all tied in accturately with each other (except for the game, which had to have slight changes to it to make it a playable mission-based thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Tattoine is basically hicksville. In Hicksville, everyone has a Harley. On Tattooine Everyone has a swoop. Questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova_wolf Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Basically, its like in real life - the swoop is a civilian version of the military speeder. No weapons, more speed and comfort. No biggy. Anway - they first appeared in Rebel Assault series... How could you forget that bitchin' mynock and princess sequence - HATED IT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 Well accordin to some sources Swoops are twice as fast as the military grade and the suped up ones are just plain dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentSmith Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 No doubt the swoops seen in the EU are based upon the speeder bikes from RoTJ. They were used in several stories and books and then found their way into Episode II I gather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 there's one in ANH special edition, it startles the ronto. it's the exact same kind seen in Shadows of the Empire (even the rider is the same...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 oh yeah, you're right there is a swoop in AHN SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 From the Database on http://www.starwars.com The Flare-S swoop was developed for the extended Mos Eisley sequences in the Special Edition of A New Hope. An entirely computer-generated creation, the film's sole Flare-S was operated by a cone-headed driver that some development sketches jokingly referred to as "Born to Hover." Though designed for the 1997 re-release of Star Wars, the Flare-S was first revealed in the Shadows of the Empire multi-media adventure. The Flare-S design was resurrected and modified for the swoop's brief appearance in Episode I. So the Swoop was developed for the ANH:SE, and is therefore not an example of an EU creation appearing in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted February 4, 2003 Author Share Posted February 4, 2003 Okay ANH:SE was realese 1997.... Shadows of the Empire released a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiil ealier than that In 1996 The book form I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 Okay ANH:SE was realese 1997.... Shadows of the Empire released a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiil ealier than that In 1996 The book form I mean. Yes, but the ANH:SE was already in pre-production before then and Steve Perry took the idea from ILM, not vice versa. The Swoop was already going to be in the movie, regardless of whether or not it appeared in SotE. The same can be said for the ASP droid--Vader sparred with one in SotE, but the droid was already designed for the Special Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemme w/Stick Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 You actually see a Swoop in ANH (Special Edition). Its in the Mos Eisly approach seen. The one whos driving it, almost hits a Rhonto. -Clemme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Do people ever read these posts before writing replies? The same thing has been posted at least seven or eight times now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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