Weapon X Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Originally posted by Quendi your guyses reactions are verry odd so a guy gets ****face while driving and wrecks leaving someone mangled and nearly dead. you guys see this one incodent and you say that you will never even touch a beer. why??? theres nothing wrong with having a few beers in the car just as long as you dont **** yourself up to badly. plus you guys are acting like once you have a beer you will have to drive. there have probably been wrecks that have done more damage then that to a person or multiple people but you guys see this and act like beer is the devil. I live ing wyoming and there are lots of crashes here some related to drinking and driving but you know what people around here still do it and barley any of them crash.look at me im still alive and Ive beel in plenty of cars with people drinking. you live in wyoming? what part? i didn't think anyone else on the forum lived around here, but i was wrong, plus, you're right. i've been in cars w/people who were drinking and had been drinking, the fact is, the stories of people like this are 1) they're bad drivers 2)they're at the point of not even being able to stand or remember what happened the next morning 3) they're egos are too big/they aren't paranoid. i drive just fine after a few beers, maybe cuz i'm a really good driver and/or i'm paranoid of getting caught, my friends drive perfectly fine while ****-faced, i've seen it, everyone i've seen driving while they were drunk has been perfectly fine, they use their blinkers, check their blind spots, ALWAYS stop when supposed to, never speed, and NEVER swerve, so, not EVERYONE who drinks and drives will cause an accident, i know cuz i've had first hand experience. and to maybe clear up a question or two, i live on the wind river indian reservation, may not mean much to some, but there are more white crosses out here where people have crashed while drunk than probably anywhere else in the world, so you can't say i don't know what it's like, cuz i've almost been in wrecks (one when i wasn't wearing a seat belt, but i wasn't in it cuz of a delay) and i've almost hit people on the sides of the road, wearing all black and their dark skin does'nt help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Originally posted by Lunatic Jedi Okay, that is really stupid. I'm sorry, but it simply is. Just because it hasn't happened to you before doesn't mean it never will. You're walking on the edge of a knife, and eventually your luck will run out. you have no clue about what he's talking about, i do, and it's not as bad as people think, what he's saying is, the people he's with drive just fine, same w/my friends, and you know what? you wouldn't even notice they were drunk unless someone told you, that's how attuned to it we here in wyoming are, sad yes, but it's the truth, people in big cities take shots of hard stuff, people here in wyoming buy and take BOTTLES, half gallon, fifths and that, all to ourselves, no shots, we just turn it up and guzzle, that's how WE "hicks" and "hillbillies" are able to handle our liquor, it's cuz we're just good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki GM Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Originally posted by Lunatic Jedi Okay, that is really stupid. I'm sorry, but it simply is. Just because it hasn't happened to you before doesn't mean it never will. You're walking on the edge of a knife, and eventually your luck will run out. luck has nothing to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 thats awful. but its not just DRINKING and driving, its driving when you're not 100% from anything. ive almost been killed twice in the past 2 months in cars. both times i narrowly escaped being crushed into a pulp. its funny, almost every person who saw the gash on my neck from the seatbelt (now its a scar and im told ill have it until i die) asked if the driver was drinking. and same for the second accident. both times the drivers were completely sober but in one instance the driver was in a very bad mood and in an awful mental state. the other time my driver was extremely happy about acing an exam and was too eager to go have fun. and its not just the people in our car, we almost hit another car when we were going 130 (instead we just hit a lightpole and only we were hurt) and the second time we DID hit another car, they did absolutely nothing wrong and were driving completely safely but they were nearly killed because our driver wasnt 100%. you all say this is horrible, and it is. but im sickened by the fact that you all started caring just now. maybe im pissed off because ive lived through these situations and am so damn scarred mentally that i can barely chuck myself into the car in the morning to go to school let alone go visit friends out of walking distance. life is precious but the way so many of you people disregard it daily by going too fast or just not paying attention so that you can get their an extra three minutes earlier. i understand not wanting to wait in a car while you're going somewhere and i wish we could all get where were going alot faster but not at the cost of our lives. im already on borrowed time and it sickens me to no end to see other people not giving two ****s about what they've got. taking their entire life for granted and whining how that girl doesnt like them, or that group wont let them play too. for christs sake people! you're alive. so LIVE DAMNIT! stop whining about everything and make it better. alot of things changed about me a little while back, i dont think all of them are for the worse. i plan to live and do what i want, but not at the cost of others welfare. and this isnt just about cars (if you hadnt yet noticed). watch those pictures and think about that during your day. thats one of countless needless pointless tragedies. dont dwell on them but keep them at heart when you find yourself in a situation like my all too eager to get home friend that ran a stoplight and almost killed a middleaged couple that had every right to be doing exactly what they were doing when they did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki GM Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I like this peoson :p:D he knows what hes talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Brilliant, Darth Talliusc, brilliant! I couldn't agree with you more. I always make a point of it to cherish life, and to not put myself in needless danger. You said it perfectly. Hats off to you, my good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I'm going to be sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=Arkaine=- Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Thats really sad ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git_sum_stuka Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 uggh..... that face almost made me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 That's just down-right horrible... Those dumb people who drink and drive, to think that most of the time they come out of these situations unscathed... The courage that girl has to find the will to live...bravery if I've ever seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I'm speechless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I've seen before and afters of her before, sad story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 I cant help but asking... I thoght people Like you dont believe there is Evil in the world? What do you call killing somone else even if you think your just putting yourself in danger? I totally Agree with you Darth Talliusc, I've nearly lost my life on more than 1 occasion and it annoys me how people think that nothing bad can happen to them or that they will never become another statisitc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin you live in wyoming? what part? i didn't think anyone else on the forum lived around here, but i was wrong, plus, you're right. i've been in cars w/people who were drinking and had been drinking, the fact is, the stories of people like this are 1) they're bad drivers 2)they're at the point of not even being able to stand or remember what happened the next morning 3) they're egos are too big/they aren't paranoid. i drive just fine after a few beers, maybe cuz i'm a really good driver and/or i'm paranoid of getting caught, my friends drive perfectly fine while ****-faced, i've seen it, everyone i've seen driving while they were drunk has been perfectly fine, they use their blinkers, check their blind spots, ALWAYS stop when supposed to, never speed, and NEVER swerve, so, not EVERYONE who drinks and drives will cause an accident, i know cuz i've had first hand experience. and to maybe clear up a question or two, i live on the wind river indian reservation, may not mean much to some, but there are more white crosses out here where people have crashed while drunk than probably anywhere else in the world, so you can't say i don't know what it's like, cuz i've almost been in wrecks (one when i wasn't wearing a seat belt, but i wasn't in it cuz of a delay) and i've almost hit people on the sides of the road, wearing all black and their dark skin does'nt help Its People like you that cause problems like what happened to that girl! You think that you can handle it, your so smooth... When you hear the boom and the flames around you, you'll wonder if it was all worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 you actually have no clue what your talking about, it's different for everyone, and i've only done it twice, and the only time i'd ever drive under the influence of ANYTHING is in either an emergency or when my parents changed their minds and i had to get home, so you know what? you know nothing of what it's like here and to clear up some things, i've never swerved or done anything illegal or dangerous when driving while i was buzzed, i can still drive better than a LOT of other people when they're SOBER! so what do you have to say to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki GM Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by ZDawg Its People like you that cause problems like what happened to that girl! You think that you can handle it, your so smooth... When you hear the boom and the flames around you, you'll wonder if it was all worth it. no it isnt. its the people that drink to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Oh. Dear. God. There's no problem with drinking or driving, but you should either do one or the other. And if you absolutely have to drive, drive responsibly. The reason many of these accidents are so bad is because drunk teens are driving 90 mph everywhere they go - it's no wonder crap like this happens. She should know better than to get in a car with someone like that, but there's almost no chance a teen will actually do it. When I look back on some of the stupid stuff I did in my earlier years, i'm surprised I came through it unscathed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 There is a simple solution to people in wyoming (im from western south dakota, there are people like that everywhere with hill billies btw) and people drinking and driving unresponsibly is to raise driving ages from 14,16,18 whatever... to 20 21 22... something where you will be responsible and will no not to drive. Although there are plenty of older people who are irresponsible as well. Driving is for responsible people. Drinking is for stupid people. (with a few exceptions, but the types of drinking these people do who get in accidents are indeed stupid) Binge drinking is for morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZePhyR Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 omg, i would've rather died than live like that. I feel so bad for that girl. She was really pretty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted February 10, 2003 Share Posted February 10, 2003 Argh!!! I can't see it!!! Can someone enlighten me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by CagedCrado There is a simple solution to people in wyoming (im from western south dakota, there are people like that everywhere with hill billies btw) and people drinking and driving unresponsibly is to raise driving ages from 14,16,18 whatever... to 20 21 22... something where you will be responsible and will no not to drive. Although there are plenty of older people who are irresponsible as well. Driving is for responsible people. Drinking is for stupid people. (with a few exceptions, but the types of drinking these people do who get in accidents are indeed stupid) Binge drinking is for morons. k, i'm from mitchell SD and visit regularly, people are quite a bit different here than there, same w/rapid city too, but i don't really think you know what you're talking about. if people drink under the age of 21, then what would stop them from driving while under the age of 21? what you said wouldn't work, i know people who drive to school who aren't legal too, the cops and school officials know it, but they also know that people here in wyoming are a little bit different, that's why we are able to trust our kids to have guns our houses, my dad always has and always will have guns, even when we were all little, and you know what? we all knew where the key was, but my dad put fear into us that if we even touched them when he wasn't around and he found out about it, we would wish we were dead, fear works for us, but people in bigger cities have no fear (from what i've seen) in wyoming every one i know of is afraid of what their parents would do to them more than the law, parents here know how to raise their kids, now i'm not saying we're the ONLY ones who know how to raise our kids right, but i think we are the best, cuz every kid works hard from an early age, they make money, respect things, and almost NEVER disobey parents, that's why we're different than the rest of you, plus my dad is a principal, i'm ALWAYS on good behavior around him, he grounded me for losing a fight, made fun of me, then when i won the next one, he grounded me even longer, and still made fun of me! p.s.- drinking is NOT, i repeat, NOT for stupid people. if you say it's only for stupid people then YOU are stupid, not the ones who know how to behave/act when drinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Warrior Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin k, i'm from mitchell SD and visit regularly, people are quite a bit different here than there, same w/rapid city too, but i don't really think you know what you're talking about. if people drink under the age of 21, then what would stop them from driving while under the age of 21? what you said wouldn't work, i know people who drive to school who aren't legal too, the cops and school officials know it, but they also know that people here in wyoming are a little bit different, that's why we are able to trust our kids to have guns our houses, my dad always has and always will have guns, even when we were all little, and you know what? we all knew where the key was, but my dad put fear into us that if we even touched them when he wasn't around and he found out about it, we would wish we were dead, fear works for us, but people in bigger cities have no fear (from what i've seen) in wyoming every one i know of is afraid of what their parents would do to them more than the law, parents here know how to raise their kids, now i'm not saying we're the ONLY ones who know how to raise our kids right, but i think we are the best, cuz every kid works hard from an early age, they make money, respect things, and almost NEVER disobey parents, that's why we're different than the rest of you, plus my dad is a principal, i'm ALWAYS on good behavior around him, he grounded me for losing a fight, made fun of me, then when i won the next one, he grounded me even longer, and still made fun of me! p.s.- drinking is NOT, i repeat, NOT for stupid people. if you say it's only for stupid people then YOU are stupid, not the ones who know how to behave/act when drinking I do not usually express my anger on these forums but this is different from a personal note. Drinking+Driving=Irresponsible Drinking is ok within limits. But even if you are a good driver, alcohol EFFECTS YOU. If a deer jumped out on a road and you had to make a split second decision you would most likely be able to avoid it if you were not under the influence of alcohol. Now, I do agree with you to some point. If it is an emergency and you have had very little to drink then yes, I agree it should be ok. i can still drive better than a LOT of other people when they're SOBER! so what do you have to say to that? That isn't saying much seeing that alot of sober drivers drive irresponsibily too. The point is alcohol effects your reaction time and hand eye coordination. Think about it. You have 1 beer. No problem. You are driving home and hit a person crossing the street. "I only had one beer". No one will care. You will take all the blame. They will say you could have seen the person, you could have stopped in time. Maybe it is true, and that even if you were sober you still would have hit the person. But why risk it? Ep2 Anakin I am not arguing with everything you have said and I support you for the most part. Drinking is not stupid. Socialized drinking is fine in my opinion. But driving while under the influence of alcohol is not ok. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 the point i was/am trying to make is, not everyone is the same when it comes to alcohol, people handle it differently, and they act differently, you shouldn't be so quick to judge when you don't know everything about everybody's personal experiences when they have been drinking in the past. alls it does is show you're quick to judge someone because of the general population. p.s.- one beer won't show up on a breathalizer, you could fake that;) and it depends where the person was, crosswalk (your fault), intersection when YOU have the right of way (their fault), middle of block (you have the right of way, again their fault) pedestrians don't have a lot of options when it comes to crossing the streets, 90% of the people i see crossing streets do it illegally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 I use to drink and drive a lot, don't do it so much anymore. That's because I don't usually go out barhopping and the like anymore. But only once, just once, did I believe I was to inebriated to drive. But you gotta get home somehow, and it was all backroads, so I drove about 30mph and pulled over frequently so the passengers could puke All the times I drove after drinking, I know my reaction times were slower then normal. I know my judgement was skewed. But hey, you gotta get home somehow. I've also drove when I was very tired, and to this day I still sometimes nod off behind the wheel. But hey, you gotta get to where you're going, usually regardless of your physical state. Drove stoned as well, same as driving drunk. Out of all the times I was driving under the influence, I was more worried about getting pulled over then getting into an accident. I wasn't driving at the top of my game, but I was more then able to maintain. Drinking doesn't automatically equal loss of ability to drive, it just means you won't be able to drive as well as you would if you were sober. But anything could effect your driving skills, lack of sleep, not paying attention to the road, daydreaming, etc. Now, most of these drunk driving accidents are caused by people driving recklessly, when they should be driving conservatively considering their decreased ability to drive well. Or, people who are damn near too bombed to walk, yet they decide they should drive. Bad choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 All the times I drove after drinking, I know my reaction times were slower then normal. I know my judgement was skewed. But hey, you gotta get home somehow. I've also drove when I was very tired, and to this day I still sometimes nod off behind the wheel. But hey, you gotta get to where you're going, usually regardless of your physical state. Drove stoned as well, same as driving drunk. Ever hear of people staying sober for the night to drive the others home? Me and my friends rotate this position, although I usually end up taking it because I dont drink (dont realy like it). It's the "Hey, you gotta get home somehow" mentality that nearly killed a family friend and left him with the brainpower of a 7 year old (24 yr old college senior). And he wasnt driving, it was some other guy that "had to get home somehow" in another car... btw, I couldnt read the website. When I clicked that, it was all in german, I think. And there's links to porn sites on the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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