Deadeye Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 What I meant by "in a small way" was that you did not encounter them too soon, and then throughout the game. Maybe later on in the game when you uncover some big plot. Then the Imps can flow forth. It was great in JK1 when you heard the stormies talking then, Kyle says, "Stormtroopers!" That was a great moment, having not seen a single one up till that point. Speaking of giving the darkside some sort of advantage, look at JK1 If you chose light side, you had a balance during saber boss fights. But you ended up not being as brutal during the levels. With darkside, you had somewhat tougher boss fights since no one could effectively defend against each other's force powers. In the regular levels you had a great advantage in dishing out death to the stormies. I thought that balance was kinda cool, and very Jedi/Sith like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanceo9 Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 What are dark troopers.... somone wanna give me a screen... I WANNA KILL STORMIES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Dark Troopers were the enemies in JK1 that were like enhanced StormTroopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 It wouldn't be Jedi Knight without Stormtroopers. A bonus would be to include Imperial Snow Troopers and Imperial Scout Troopers with or without Speeder Bikes. I hope they bring back Imperial Probe Droids, Imperial Officers, Navy Troopers, and maybe a AT-ST Walker. I sorta like the Dark Forces idea of having Darktroopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 if they don't have stormtroopers in SP they will probarly have a playable version in MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 I probably wouldn't buy the game if they weren't in it. It wouldn't be Star Wars without Stormtroopers, probe droids, imperial officers, etc. Maybe they will show other imperial things like Tie Fighters, Imperial Shuttles, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlzWisHum Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Ok, I must say I voted #3 for sake of humor. But there is two things I'd like to kill the most: Battledroids (in appropriate AI) and that Rancor (Raven granted my wish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iodius Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 "Do you want to fight Imperials in JA??" Is the Pope a Catholic? Of course I do. I also think they should introduce an enemy called the "arrogant bystander". They see you whooping arse, they know you can whoop their arse, yet they still challenge you to a fight, and they always lose. Always. That would be sweet. Just force push 'em around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Originally posted by Deadeye What I meant by "in a small way" was that you did not encounter them too soon, and then throughout the game. Maybe later on in the game when you uncover some big plot. Then the Imps can flow forth. It was great in JK1 when you heard the stormies talking then, Kyle says, "Stormtroopers!" That was a great moment, having not seen a single one up till that point. Hmm... YES thats great... I mean that it would at first seem that imperium is gone and everything is about OK and you go and do some "minor" stuff here and there and then sometime (about in the middle of the game) you find some "indefinite" leads that there is may be something relatively big going on and you get order to go and investigate and you find out that there are some "old imperial remnants" and they send some X-Wing squads and... BUT then you find out that maybe it is not so small after all and that there are hundreds of imperial star destroyer preparing for launch and there are maybe millions of storm troopers or some new clone troopers or ... and then you get spotted... And after that point... you are no longer attacking (AND game should have similar ending like EP2 (= you kind of win but in the biger scale you lost.....) And then maybe next game will continue from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolsen Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I agree with you AJL... it would be sweet if they went with the Empire Strikes Back vibe and have a qasi-good ending with a touch of dread. ESB is the best Star Wars IMO (and many others), so why not have a similar feeling at the end of this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I would like it if some new new dark organization started to become a problem for the new republic (that just happens to have "guys with lightsabers" at their disposal), and that your sent to investigate. Then, after a while, you find out that this organization cooperates with the again growing empire and that a sinister plan is being put into action against the new republic.. or something of the kind. That would be great IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I like the progression of Sttormtroopers from DF ->JK -> JO in terms of models and AI. I would like to see them in JA. It will not, however, impact my decision to buy this game ... which I've already made (can I preorder?!?!). So long as I get a saber and force powers, I'll buy it ... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Originally posted by Squater I would like it if some new new dark organization started to become a problem for the new republic (that just happens to have "guys with lightsabers" at their disposal), and that your sent to investigate. Then, after a while, you find out that this organization cooperates with the again growing empire and that a sinister plan is being put into action against the new republic.. or something of the kind. That would be great IMO. Hmm... but those saber guys should be "elite/leaders"... Their real ARMIES should still be made of stormtroopers, clonetroopers, some kind of battle droids and devices... but this time it shouldn't be the best way to go that you try to kill them all... or actually shouldn't be able to... (there should be UNLIMITED amounts of them...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Originally posted by AJL Hmm... but those saber guys should be "elite/leaders"... Their real ARMIES should still be made of stormtroopers, clonetroopers, some kind of battle droids and devices... but this time it shouldn't be the best way to go that you try to kill them all... or actually shouldn't be able to... (there should be UNLIMITED amounts of them...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Of course they should be elite, the "guys with lightsabers" wasnt meant serious. Yup, unlimited amounts of good ol' stormies.... mmmm. Slicing thousands of stormie heads off... mmm And I agree with you that it should end in a bit of a dark way. A defeat in the victory kinda... maybe your victorious, but then, in an end cutscene, you see... something threatening... cant come up with anything right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 (unlimited stormtroopers or clonetroopers or battle droids or...) I meant it so that you should FEEL that the enemy is SUPERIOR over you and that you have to be stealthy or the game is going to get REALLY HARD but still even if you rush in it shouldn't just trigger GAME OVER... But instead those quards or what ever would make alarm and the enemy would send those troopers (and every time you kill one trooper they send two more...) so couldn't just kill them all but you would have to hide/backoff/... (somehow make them think that you are not there anymore...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Game should end like EP2 (in small scale you win but in big scale you are far from victory...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Story example: You get order to go to investigate some old imperial base where is now some small activity and when you get there you find out that everyone in there have been killed but you find some "trace" and you follow that trace to some other place and from there to some other place (things keeps getting worse and worse all the time...) Finally you find out what this is all about.... These bad guys are building new space crafts even more powerfull than Super Start destroyer and that they are also making some battle droids or clone soldiers or... (Soo then you inform your master and... soon you get information that if this ship with its 10000 sondiers and 1000 tie fighters is complete it will mean the end of the rebublic and rise of the new empire and bla bla bla...) Soo then you have to try to sabotage this project but thing go wrong and then your jedi friends come to help and then you all sneak in to that ship and try to take it out.... But then you find out that this damn ship is not in really in developement like you though... its just completed soo you call the new rebublic to send its fleets to fight against it and... (and there are huge battle where lots of X-Wings and jedis and your side troopers die but in the very end you barely succeed to destroy the shield generators and new rebublic destroys the ship... VICTORY!) Game "complete" but... (now you find out about the truth you see how hundreds.. maybe thousands of new superior Hyper Super Stardestroyer take off from all planets around you...) then yodas "ghost" comes and says: "the shroud of the dark side has fallen. begun the Hyper Super Stardestroyer war has..." So... you "win" that first battle but in big scale... things are now worse that ever... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettingShadow Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Yes, I understood what you meant with 'unlimited' amount of bla bla bla.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoast2895 Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 i dunno, i wanna see imps but maybe on a side story or working for something bigger. i'd like to see a new type of enemy or at least a larger variety cuz if it like jko and i mostly not see new enemies, i'll be dissappointed. but killing stormtroopers is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FmmF3 Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I want Biker Scouts and Snow Troopers like in MotS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Personally, I am tired of the stormtroopers. I want a new enemy, new storyline. I like the challenge.. I'd prefer every stormtrooper to be replaced by a Difficult Desann Clone. I want every enemy to seem like a boss... None of this shields stuff.. If I get shot or sabered, I want my character to feel it... Besides, why would a jedi need shields when he has a lightsaber... its like Hello, it technically IS a shield. I want the game to play more like a FPS like Rainbow Six, that if you are shot when holding a gun, you die, none of this 100% or 50% health... And if someone gets hit in the chest or higher, they die, no bringing health down to 33%, any way.. Like I said, I don't want stormtroopers in the game (AT ALL).. I want a new, stronger, better enemy.. Nothing like a 2yrd old could shoot up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi_Kwiet Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Whoa I just had an idea! Fighting stormtroopers on bikes! then you would find a bike and there could be a levle like that! Hey maby on one levle you and an ally would have to gang up on an ATAT! sry i'm getting a little off tipic but the fact remains i will be dissapointed if there are not imperials in JA. Bear this in bind Raven VERY VERY DISSAPOINTED!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesdomain Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I think stormtroopers are essestial to Jedi Academy. It wouldn't be a Jedi Knight game without them. I personally think an addition of Imperial Scout Troopers with speeder bikes. I want to be able to kill a Scout Trooper (ROTJ) and steal his bike and use it against the other imperial bad guys. I also think it would be cool to steal a AT-ST and AT-AT Walkers and use it against stormtroopers. Or to blow up a door to get into a base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Killing stormtroopers was one of the coolest thing about jkII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I actually had more fun killing off the Gungans with the JarJAr mod, then I did with the original game... Plus, with the advanced AI mod a friend made, it made it a better game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I've decided, Stormtroopers stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted April 9, 2003 Author Share Posted April 9, 2003 Wow I'm so glad you decided :p I'd rather have someone from Raven here saying "Oh there will DEFINATELY be stormtroopers in JA, lots of 'em!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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