Die Another Day Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 After MikeDoggg2004's thread, using the word 'gay' in a very offensive way, I was just wondering... is there anyone in here who is homophobic? I mean, strongly anti-homosexuals? By the way, this is a nice thread, not a place where people can come and insult the gay community. Any nastiness and I'll delete the whole thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBell Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I personally dont think its wrong, but i do sometimes find it disturbing to see Gay people kissing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•-BLaCKouT-• Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 For the record, no. Not at all. Now I hate to use this cliché, but "some of my best friends are gay" (I can't believe I just said that) consequentally I've got no problems with it. I know people who have, mind you. Anyway, back on topic; I knew what Doggg meant when he referred to the game as 'gay', and I don't think he meant it in an offensive way. (not to the gay community at least). Although I can see why he was reprimanded for it. I use the term myself sometimes, although only in company that I know will understand what I mean. I remember reading an interview with the creators of South Park once. They were asked about their usage of the word 'faggot' in the movie and TV series. One of them (can't remember which) said something along the lines of: "I know lots of gay people who aren't faggots, and plenty of 'straight' people who are." I know what he means. Hopefully you will too. Anyways, just my 2p's worth Peace out, B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBell Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thats a good point B, i sometimes use the word gay when someone is being really obnoxious and i'll just say " Jeez, she/he is so gay" without even knowing he/she's sexual prefrences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I don't hate gay people, I just don't like homosexuality. I believe in the Bible and it's teachings strongly, and according to it, it's a sin, and I try my best not to live in sinful ways. I am not a "homophobe" because I am not scared of them, so don't point a finger at me saying I am. I think this thread belongs in the senate chambers more then anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homuncul Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I'm not against gays. Just I think it to be unnatural. And since common people is what I see every single day, it's a bit not something that I look normally at. Stil let it be, just I don't like escalation from both sides when for example some company fires a man cauze he's a gay, or a gay using his sexual minority preference starts the court process for egocentric reasons or just to earn some money from his "title" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 i once saw two gay people at disneyland, STEREOTYPICAL gay too, tiny leather vest on one, tiny mesh shirt on the other, tight leather pants, and a leather hat (village people style) i was just like :quesbrn: and started shouting stuff at them because that was just wrong, you don't need to go around looking like that in DISNEYLAND, a family place, maybe it's different than wyoming but if they came here they'd probably be run out of town (by highschoolers and college kids mind you) people in wyoming are really STRONGLY against gay people (don't anyone say anything about The Incident, that's not the extent that we all go to to get our point across) i'm not afraid of them, just don't want them around me because almost NONE of them realize that straight men don't wanna have to fight off the advances of guys. we DO have gay people that live in my town (like 5 or 6) and as long as they don't stare or look at someone in a way that makes them uncomfortable then it's all ok, one of them was checkin me out at mcdonalds one time (he's a manager) so i just shuffled behind my friends. personally i can't stand gay people because it's just not the natural way of life, as people here put it, don't enter the exit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrackan Solo Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I don't hate gay people, I just don't like homosexuality. I believe in the Bible and it's teachings strongly, and according to it, it's a sin, and I try my best not to live in sinful ways. Thats my view, I dont hate people that are gay and beat them with sticks, but I think it is wrong to be homosexual, because my God says it is. AND, I think it wrong when gay people dress like ep2 said and goes to Disneyland? Its not right to dress like that in a kids place and walk around like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by Thrackan Solo Thats my view, I dont hate people that are gay and beat them with sticks, but I think it is wrong to be homosexual, because my God says it is. AND, I think it wrong when gay people dress like ep2 said and goes to Disneyland? Its not right to dress like that in a kids place and walk around like that. it IS wrong, i never had to see that as a kid and i don't want my kid to see it, so let's make it NOT acceptable, i flat out said "HEY FAGS! GO PUT SOME CLOTHES ON, THERE'S KIDS AROUND HERE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJackal Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 In Canada Gay mariage is finally legal. thats right I said FINALLY. I support the gay community. I myself am straight but I have a bisexual friend and a few lesbian friends. As for those comments that homosexuality is un-natural.... animals from nature have homosexual acts allmost all the time. Watch TLC or Discovery Channel and you will eventually see a show that mentions it. As for ep2 Anakin's little tantrum (sp?) at the gay couple in Disney Land. Why did you scream at them? Because of your personnal views and your believes that these people are corrpution the young? Thats like saying TV makes children stupid and playing video games makes them want to kill people. I was with my girlfriend in plublic recently and I was giving her a hug and a few kisses. A 30 year old women was waiting for the bus with us and asked us not to show that type of emotions publicly in front of her children. That pissed me off and I bluntly said to her: "what corrupts more your children. the fact you smoke cigarettes around them or the fact that I can show emotions to an other person" Back to the homosexuality topic. I have a friend who IS homophobe. When he herd Texas and a few other southern states banned sodomy (homosexual act of sex), however the supereme court overruled the law he said "ah dammit". I asked him if he was homosexual and he started saying BS like oh no. I dont hate them I just hate it when i see or think of them kissing of having sex. I got fed up and told him to move there if that is his attitude. People, throughout history there has been a social change and debates that had to be done in courts and protests. Languages, religion and skin colours had been the previous hurdles in society. The next one is homosexuality. Face it. Accept it. If not... just live with it and leave the gays amd lesbians alone. thank you -jackal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by obi-wan13 I don't hate gay people, I just don't like homosexuality. I believe in the Bible and it's teachings strongly, and according to it, it's a sin, and I try my best not to live in sinful ways. I am not a "homophobe" because I am not scared of them, so don't point a finger at me saying I am. I think this thread belongs in the senate chambers more then anywhere else. Oh yeah the Bible thats a real compassionate book, according to them its wrong for pregnant women to have abortions to save themselves. The Bible can't be interprated as literal, their homophobia was a result of the cultural norms of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Eggplant Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 anything which occurs in nature is therfore natural by absolute deffinition now some people like spiders some are afraid of them same can said for snakes, lizards or any animal some people like mountains while others like beaches its a question of choice and geographic location. best thing to do is if you are phobic about something stay away from it, or some might think as I do, try to become aware of and unafraid of phobia by mastering it. this does mean change your sexuality, it means be aware of other possibilities and look at them objectively. not every dog you meet is going to bite you (unless it is a hot dog, they are just waiting to rise up and take their revenge) no seriously despite sexual orientation people are people, you should always remeber that before you judge too harshly someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by Darth Murphy Oh yeah the Bible thats a real compassionate book, according to them its wrong for pregnant women to have abortions to save themselves. The Bible can't be interprated as literal, their homophobia was a result of the cultural norms of the time. Homosexuality was one of the many reasons that God destroyed the cities of Saddom and Gamhorra. I think that's proof enough that God is not for Homosexuality, not just the veiws of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by TheJackal In Canada Gay mariage is finally legal. thats right I said FINALLY. I support the gay community. I myself am straight but I have a bisexual friend and a few lesbian friends. As for those comments that homosexuality is un-natural.... animals from nature have homosexual acts allmost all the time. Watch TLC or Discovery Channel and you will eventually see a show that mentions it. As for ep2 Anakin's little tantrum (sp?) at the gay couple in Disney Land. Why did you scream at them? Because of your personnal views and your believes that these people are corrpution the young? Thats like saying TV makes children stupid and playing video games makes them want to kill people. I was with my girlfriend in plublic recently and I was giving her a hug and a few kisses. A 30 year old women was waiting for the bus with us and asked us not to show that type of emotions publicly in front of her children. That pissed me off and I bluntly said to her: "what corrupts more your children. the fact you smoke cigarettes around them or the fact that I can show emotions to an other person" Back to the homosexuality topic. I have a friend who IS homophobe. When he herd Texas and a few other southern states banned sodomy (homosexual act of sex), however the supereme court overruled the law he said "ah dammit". I asked him if he was homosexual and he started saying BS like oh no. I dont hate them I just hate it when i see or think of them kissing of having sex. I got fed up and told him to move there if that is his attitude. People, throughout history there has been a social change and debates that had to be done in courts and protests. Languages, religion and skin colours had been the previous hurdles in society. The next one is homosexuality. Face it. Accept it. If not... just live with it and leave the gays amd lesbians alone. thank you -jackal werd. and that lady you talked about. i had a similiar problem accept the lady and man were racial (my gf is japanese) they said "how could you do that in public, and furthermore how could you do it outside your race?" I hate texas. this place sucks it's full of biggots. I have to help defend friends when these arrogant rednecks pick on them because they are arab,asian,gay,punks(like punk rockers, like me), and so many other things. of course like any other country the men don't care if it's lesbians they just hate gay men. this biggotry disturbs me alot. I'm very paranoid from all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrackan Solo Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin it IS wrong, i never had to see that as a kid and i don't want my kid to see it, so let's make it NOT acceptable, i flat out said "HEY FAGS! GO PUT SOME CLOTHES ON, THERE'S KIDS AROUND HERE!" Thats a little harsh man, Im not afraid of homos just I dont feel comfortable. You shouldnt "persecute" them for it. Just maybe ask them nicely to maybe put something more appropriate on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Saying oh that is gay...or something has really nothing to do with gay people....it's just a different way to use a word... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin it IS wrong, i never had to see that as a kid and i don't want my kid to see it, so let's make it NOT acceptable, i flat out said "HEY FAGS! GO PUT SOME CLOTHES ON, THERE'S KIDS AROUND HERE!" Lucky I wasnt there, you would have gone home with a broken nose. Yes, there are kids around. But you're making the problem even worse by shouting "fags" at the top of your lungs. There are kids around, they dont need to hear that. Also, you're drawing attention to the very people that you dont want kids looking at. I have no problem with gay people. I dont mind if they wear tight clothes or funny hats, because they're just clothes. They're just catering to a certain fashion. You dont flip out and go screaming when a girl wears a tight pair of jeans and a tanktop. I only get bothered when they go making out with each other in public, but not any more bothered than if two straight people were making out in public. I also dont really like it when they hit on me, but it's only happened once, and he was really just messing with my head (found out later he did like me, but he wasnt gonna make an issue because he knew I'm straight). The idea that gay people would be "run out" of a town just for being gay is really a throwback to times of intolerance. Ignorant people doing ignorant things. Such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Originally posted by obi-wan13 Homosexuality was one of the many reasons that God destroyed the cities of Saddom and Gamhorra. I think that's proof enough that God is not for Homosexuality, not just the veiws of the time. Again that can't be taken literally, The Bible isn't word for word true and cannot be taken literally, that story was a myth, homosexuality isn't wrong, and accepting homosexuality is the greatest showing of Christian Love, that one is accepting something that has been so reviled over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 ep2 Anakin your ignorance sickens me, it's that type of attitude that caused the Holocaust, my advice to you is the next time you want to give your opinion go jump off a cliff. * Okay... I don't really like ep2 Anakin's hatred either, but since this thing landed in the Senate, please try to keep it civil, huh? --- Skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Another Day Posted July 3, 2003 Author Share Posted July 3, 2003 Alright, before we begin, I think you all should know that I am a homosexual guy. There. I said it. The Bible also teaches us about love, doesn't it? Now, if two people love each other enough, what should stop them from expressing themselves? If anything, gay relationships are much deeper and more meaningful than straight relationships. Think about it - how many straight guys have let their girlfriends go off saying "It's a girl thing"? When two guys are together, they both understand each other much better, making for a much more open and meaningful partnership. People seem to have this preconception that homosexual men are only out for fun. They sleep around, not really having lasting relationships. Let me say that I've been with the same guy for three years now, and I love him more than anything in the world. There isn't a thing I would not do for him, hell, I would even die for him. Now, this sounds just like any other guy and girl falling in love to me. So what's the problem? Hoexual men using their sexuality as some title, a way of gaining special treatment, is quite wrong. I'm nothing special, I'm just an ordinary guy. I have an ordinary job. I drive a middle-of-the-range car. I have an ordinary house. I never use the fact that I am gay in order to draw attention to myself or those around me. That is something I hate. Someone mentioned gay guys chatting up straight ones. Here lies our problem (yes, I admit it). Straight guys walk down the street, checking out the girls who pass. It's exactly the same for homosexuals, except from the fact that we check out the guys. We can't help it, especially if we don't know if the guy is gay or not. My best friend is straight, and when I told him about my sexuality he gave me a huge hug... there is a big difference between close friendships and relationships, you see. My best friend trusts me not to do anything, and I trust him not to go ballistic. Public displays of homosexual affection is something I try to steer clear of. When Anthony and myself are walking down a street, we won't hold hands or wear odd clothing. I don't want to start a confrontation because I don't want to offend anyone passing in the street, since I don't know if they are anti-gay or not. I'm not here to start a huge argument, and I'm not going out to find a fight. If people have a problem, I'll steer clear. My problem is that I'm as bent as one of Uri Geller's spoons - everyone seems to know I'm gay before I meet them! Ah well... I'm hoping that the people in the LucasForums who have posted here won't do anything nasty in the street (or at DisneyLand, for that matter). I can understand parents wanting to protect their children, and I can understand how homosexuality can be viewed as unnatural. That's you're own perception. Me, I'm happy with my life and I'm madly in love with my boyfriend. What should be anyone's problem with that? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Me, I'm happy with my life and I'm madly in love with my boyfriend. What should be anyone's problem with that? And herein lies the most important thing of all. Ones happiness. If you're doing something or living a certain way that makes you happy, then how can anyone argue with it. And one certainly argue that love is wrong. Love is never wrong. I think it's very cool and brave of a homosexual guy to be able to discuss something that so many ignorant people have such a huge problem with. Big props to you, Die Another Day, and any other homosexual people on these boards who choose to speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Another Day Posted July 3, 2003 Author Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks, ShockV1.89. Kind words indeed. Just in reference to your signature - Go Banana indeed. See... a sense of humour after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrackan Solo Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Well, quite frankly, the Bible clearly says a man shall not sleep with a man the way a man sleeps with a woman. Its wrong, its a sin. There is no way around it. Now I am not saying that I hate you DaD but I think what you are doing is sinful but I am not going to point at you and call you names. But I really hate it when gay men hit on straight men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePhotonic Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 What trips me out is what christian is to say that it's wrong?...people are born this way...there is nothing they can do about it....just like anyone who is straight cannot do anything about that...it's natural.....but the point is don't christians believe god has something to do with birth?...so if it makes you gay then??? I say "it" because if there was a god that's the only way you could describe it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 "I don't hate black people, I just don't like racial differences. I believe in the Bible and it's teachings strongly, and according to it, it's a sin, and I try my best not to live in sinful ways. I am not a "racist" because I am not scared of them, so don't point a finger at me saying I am." "people in wyoming are really STRONGLY against black people (...) personally i can't stand black people because it's just not the natural way of life" "Thats my view, I dont hate people that are black and beat them with sticks, but I think it is wrong to be black, because my God says it is. Thats a little harsh man, Im not afraid of blacks just I dont feel comfortable. You shouldnt "persecute" them for it." For the love of God, listen to yourselves. It's disgusting. DAD, best of luck to your and your boyfriend. Hope you never meet guys like these. EDIT: Thrackan, the Bible was clearly written by jingoist bigots. 'Coz God would never let such pathetic differences interfere with his master plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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