IG-64 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX Proud of what he is? He's a born as a homosexual male, gives him the right to be honest about it, no? Also, if God would see you as a sinner for being what you really are, that's the most wrong thing ever. well, IMHO, theres no such thing as being born a homosexual male. EDIT: Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie™ Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX I'm an atheist, and I'll go and be honest: I think that what you've been doing has been a bit too extreme. Others should be left alone in their beliefs, if they want to be a Christian, they find it out when the time comes. Same for being a Buddhist, Moslim, spiritualist, or for the hell of it, even Satanist. Many people claim to be healed by religious entities, personally, I don't believe that. I believe that physical and mental health have a very strong connection in your mind and body, so if you believe you can get well, you will get well. Visions of the future, well, I can't explain them, but I do know they exist, and can be extremely frightening and hard to deal with - same goes for knowing how other feel. Don't misunderstand me on this, tho, I beg you. I'm not accusing you of being a liar, or for that matter, a bad person. I believe that that story is exactly what has happened as seen through your own eyes. And about homosexuality - I don't believe it's a sin, it's gene-defined. if your genes tell you you're attracted to members of the same sex, don't be afraid to come out for it. Hell, even froma religious point of view, it's not wrong - didn't Jesus say to be who you are, and to be proud of what you are? Homosexuals can be people too, in fact, a friend of mine who is homosexual, actually saved my life. In my opinion, it's not wrong to be gay, it's wrong to judge people for being gay. That you are there for your friends, is a great bit of character, and something to be extremely proud of. However, they've got lifes next to you, often it's best to keep a little distance, if that person really needs help, he or she will come to you, and allow you to help him/her. Keeping multiple sortalike contacts will eventually lead to being surrounded by people you know very well, and who actually do care about you - and don't be afraid to tell the problems you've just written down, to them. That's a sign of trust, bigger than you could possibly imagine. Admittedly, there isn't much time left for you to do this, but you should try, it's never too late. The step you took by creating that website is large, and I seriously think you've got more mental strength than you might realise, if you're able to do something like that - I know I wouldn't be able to do this. If you'd die, I'd know for sure that I will cry, despite the fact that I hardly knew you. You say you consider your life a failure, I don't think it is. Look at all that you've come through, all that you might have meant for people, for what good came to them thanks to your help, is that really a sign of failure? I don't think so. I think it's a sign of you being near mental invincibility, something a lot of us can only dream of. From the view of your religion, you've lived an almost perfect life, judging by what I've just read. I wish more people could be like you, but sadly, i don't think there are much. I know I've dedicated my life to helping others, but the effort you have put into it is, from any damn point of view, incredible, and earns you my full respect. I have no idea of what the cause is of, as you put it, your coming death, but I wish with all my heart, that somehow, a medicine, remedy or cure is found, allowing you to live on, stronger than ever. I have no good way of saying this myself, so please, allow me to quote: Needed elsewhere To remind us of the shortness of your time Tears laid for them Tears of love tears of fear Bury my dreams dig up my sorrows Oh Lord why Do angels fall first? --Nightwish, Angels Fall First Even when you're gone, you'll live on in our hearts and spirits, and of those people you've helped. Word Oh, and Astro, even though you might have sounded like a dick, I think you're actually in on something.. Good luck RP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by Pie™ Word Oh, and Astro, even though you might have sounded like a dick, I think you're actually in on something.. Good luck RP.. Howdy Pie I wanst trying to sound like anything, but did want to express that IMO this guys main issues are medical moreso than spiritual. IG, dont turn this into a "homosexuality is a sin" debate plz. mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joetheeskimo Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 All i can say is good luck, because there's no way I can try to counsel you at this point. Have you considered asking your Christian parents for guidance? I'm guessing a pastor could help you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manoman81 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Wish I could say something, but this all caught me off guard. I can't say that I am really sad about what you wrote. Don't get me wrong. RP has been a constant since I have been hanging around the Swamp and I will truly miss him if he should disappear. However, RP, you sound like you know whats going to happen and you understand it. You already know who is there to help you. You've looked to Him many times. I think that only when we become comfortable with our death do we really understand what it is to live. I agree with Astro. Just make sure you are getting the medical attention you need as well. We are here for you when you need us. And don't worry about if people like what you posted or not. You've done more than what anyone of us could have done. Stand tall and keep walking. Enjoy the scenary while you are still with us. And don't forget to smile. Makes life that much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Vogel Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Pastor, Prayer, Doctors, Medicine. God uses Doctors too. May you find the peace you seek and if it's His Will, also the healing. But remember, not all answers to prayer are "yes", which may be hard to handle, but know that all of your days are in His hands, and they couldn't be in a safer place. But don't forget to seek a medical opinion and see what they can offer you, seriously considering what they say, cos generally they know what they are on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I won't be pessimistic. You did what you could and you contributed to everybody. There are few people like you. May the Gods be with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I don't really understand the need you have to reveal all this information about your life to us. I respect your integrity, devotion, and faith in Jesus, but this all seems a tad weird. A lot of people come to me for advice because I have unordinary wisdom in a lot of matters, and I know how to handle many situations for others. I have very good night vision, and I am very agile, but also decent in strength. . Probably due to me working for UPS for awhile. All in all, I am sensitive in things most people arn't even aware of. You kind of make yourself sound-like Spiderman with your supposed premonitions and heightened senses. I don't think working for UPS can give you all these qualities. If my best friend were to stab me in the back, my last dying breath would still say, "I still love you." You must think pretty highly of yourself to say this. You sound almost Christ-like RP. Maybe you're right. Maybe God gave you all of these amazing abilities to help your friends. Or maybe you have A.D.D., Bi-Polar, schizophrenia, and Tourette syndrome. I'm sorry to downplay this "confession" of your life. But maybe you're kidding yourself. I'm saddened to hear that you think you will die soon. You will be in my prayer's Jared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 ... I'm speechless... That's amazing, enlightening and frightening at the same time... It almost made me a believer, aw man, this is going to depress me for days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I'm... speechless. I'm sorry it has to end so soon according to your site. I'm glad though that Christianity and God has guided your life. I'm not sure if this statement is fitting, but I hope you get the medical attention you need if you don't already, and get well soon. I'm not sure, but maybe God chose you to have those syndromes to test your strength, will, and faith. And from what I see, you passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joetheeskimo Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by Doomgiver ... It almost made me a believer... Oh, it's a good thing you narrowly escaped that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troopr-Undr-Fir Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 What is there to accept? You are you, and only you were able to tell the tale. That's all that should matter to you. Not what we the swampies think. You are a good man, that is all you need to know. You know where to find me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 ckc.... It doesn't nescarily means he was born like that. I'm sure if RP was killed by his best friend, he would be angry toward him for a short time. But, knowing that Jesus wants us to love everyone, he would forgive his friend..... Thats how I interputed it, atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by ZBomber ckc.... It doesn't nescarily means he was born like that. I'm sure if RP was killed by his best friend, he would be angry toward him for a short time. But, knowing that Jesus wants us to love everyone, he would forgive his friend..... My point is not that Jesus wants us all to walk in his path and lead fruitful lives in his name, but that as humans, we all fall short in leading sinless lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--ZeeMan-- Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 whoa! let's not get this into a debate please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie™ Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Oh man, I just discovered what you really tried to say... I'm very sorry for you, and I really hope you can get the help you need... My thoughts will be with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Wow... I don't know why, but shortly after i read that, i reacted heavily emotional. It's better now, but i still feel a bit sorry that i have such little problems and make such a fuss out of it while he has much larger problems and just seems to accept them... On a side note, i don't wish to upset people, but this isn't just a Really bad but well-prepared joke is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--ZeeMan-- Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 no doom. it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Alright. Then i can go back into a sad state. No, i'm not trying to make fun of this, i take it seriously like most of you. i'm just a little paranoid. I can't help that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Yeah comon, don't go and turn this into a debate. Since I'm mostly an antagontist(could anyone give me the correct spelling please?) I could really go down and debunk some of his paragraphs, but this is really not the place for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Originally posted by Tyrion Yeah comon, don't go and turn this into a debate. Since I'm mostly an antagontist(could anyone give me the correct spelling please?) I could really go down and debunk some of his paragraphs, but this is really not the place for this. *antagonist* Why the heck would you want to debate/debunk his story? The parts about him believing in God or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 RP... Ive been talking to you on AIM for a year now or so. Ive become pretty good friends with you. You told me about the whole "bi" thing so long ago, and you told me many things, and I told you alot too. This just can't be true. I mean, Ive never had a friend die before, and even though I dont know you in "real" life...It hurts. It hurts to know that youll be gone and I won't be able to talk to you anymore. It hurts to know I wont be able to tell you about the girls that I like, whats troubling me, and so much more. It hurts to know that I'll have one less friend in my life. I believe that God has a purpose for everything, and everyone. I believe that God has a reason for you to die. But it is things like this...that make me mad at God. That make me never want to care for anything ever again. God pisses me off somtimes, but Im sure that is his intention. Life isnt fair. I wish it was, because this would be easier on all of us, and you would be able to live the life that you're supposed to. You're young. I dont want you to die. -Acrylic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Ater realizing what it truly meant, My eyes watered up. I'm really sad now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Yeh, the part where he said "I'm a failure" tore me up.... Rp.... can't you see how many people you have touched? You're NOT a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit Why the heck would you want to debate/debunk his story? The parts about him believing in God or something? That part, actually. But there's no point in doing it now, since it can only hurt Rp right now, and I really don't think he deserves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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