Ray Jones Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 i think i'm really with gabez here. i think he lives his religion the right way. if i were religious, i would do it the same way. what you do, yeabginn, i pretty much interpreting the meaning of religion wrong. it my not be your fault, but more that of your "environment". maybe you'll see that one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Thanks! Honestly, if you Christian fundamentalists actually read the posts before replying with Bible quotes like Ray and Doomgiver, then maybe your points would make some sort of sense. Just some more points I picked out: "God wouldnt say that, becase it contradicts his word." - and of course the Bible NEVER condradicts itself ever... "santa has been proved impossible time and time again, God hasnt." - time for a quick lesson on proof. Basically, nothing can be proved apart from maybe maths, because it is analytic - everthing else is synthetic. So in terms of proof, God and Santa Claus are the same; you can never prove that Santa doesn't exist. Think about it. "Oh, but we've been to the North-pole" - he's invisible. "But you can't fly around the world in one night to all the children!" - he uses some sort of high-tech Alien gadgetry. Simmiliarly, with God, you can say "oh but I've never seen Him do anything" - God doesn't want you to KNOW He exists, because otherwise we'd have no free will and be "forced" to follow him. The point is, both cases can neither be proved or disproved, really. "But I've been to heaven!" - you were hallucinating. etc. etc. "I've said before, sex was made to increase the population, not pleseure, ruling out the need for tht kind of protection" - right, so you're all for the world becoming even more over-populated. If a teenage student girl asked you for advice because she was gang raped and can't support a child, you'd suggest that she keep the baby even though the foetus is only a few days old. Right. What are you trying to do here - do what's right, or do what you think the Bible says? (But actually doesn't good samaritan story etc. says help others whatever of pre-set "rules") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 and of course the Bible NEVER condradicts itself ever... When there's a contradiction in the bible it means that two people wrote about the same things from different points of view. Each knew something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Very well, so in that case the Bible really shouldn't be taken word for word - we should look at the common ground the interpretations sharem (such as love your neighbour - even if he is gay) and not go around stoning homosexuals because of what could be a mistranslation, a misunderstanding of simply someone's opinion. Remember that the divine law is not the same as the eternal law (see Aquinas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrnx Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 Originally posted by Gabez Very well, so in that case the Bible really shouldn't be taken word for word - we should look at the common ground the interpretations sharem (such as love your neighbour - even if he is gay) and not go around stoning homosexuals because of what could be a mistranslation, a misunderstanding of simply someone's opinion. Remember that the divine law is not the same as the eternal law (see Aquinas). You obviously don't read the Bible your self do you? Lyrnx (Has left his mark) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 wow. this thread has sloowwwed down incredibly. however.. i think gabez has read the bible. but that's not the point.. the point is, if i seek answers and walk blind, how do i find the questions? also some of you ran out of "prepared" answers, that's why this "discussion" stopped so abruptly. -- so will there be a successor for the us? maybe not. people have to learn that it is not about the best country anymore. we're on to enter a new age. .. spaceage!! (mwaha.) .. the trend will be like what we see in the eu, nations will join together and finally grow together. and one day there will be only one "nation" on earth. if mankind isnt going to die, then we will spread in space. the question then will be "who is going to be the successor of earth?" of course, this will not happen tomorrow. stupid humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 I have answers, its just ever1 keeps going on about the same thing and its getting boring. its also really time consuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 But all of YOUR answers are the same. There is no other argument that you can make, your entire argument is based on a 3000 year old book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrnx Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by ET Warrior But all of YOUR answers are the same. There is no other argument that you can make, your entire argument is based on a 3000 year old book. Technically, it's older... But yes I base my answers on this "book". BTW: Gabez if you claim to be a "jesus lover" and don't act like it then you are no more then a cowardly HIPOCRIT! Lyrnx (has left his mark...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by yaebginn I have answers, its just ever1 keeps going on about the same thing and its getting boring. its also really time consuming. *kicks yaeb to the ground* DON'T SAY EVER1 Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by Lyrnx But yes I base my answers on this "book". yes, you base your answers on this old book, but you use any other (relative) new(est) technology you can get a hold of? strange. what does "your book" say about the internet? honestly. i want an "biblic" answer to this. i wanna know what the bible says about flying around the earth or even up to the moon and walking on it. what does it say about mars probes.. i wanna know what answers that book has concerning "year 2004" questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by Lyrnx Technically, it's older... And you don't think that things change in 3000+ years? Times change, societies change, PEOPLE change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Sorry i didn't post in a while. You see, normally i'm online pretty much the whole damn day, but i've acquired GTA: vice city recently so i've had a little les sitme for this... Anyway, can someone really tell me what you're all talking about since my last visit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by Lyrnx BTW: Gabez if you claim to be a "jesus lover" and don't act like it then you are no more then a cowardly HIPOCRIT! Firstly, you do not have to blindly follow the Bible, hate gays, try to persudae everyone that what you think is right etc. to "love" Jesus. I believe there is a God, though I don't know exactly what He is like. I also believe in Jesus, and "love" him because of the good things he said (the things that haven't been warped by people like you). Secondly, it's a joke, I'm making fun of you. And: If you hate gays because the Bible says you should, then if the Bible told you to fly a plane into a building, would you do it? I see a very thin line between you and the 9/11 Terrorists. Doomgiver: not much since you last posted, I'm afraid. :~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I noticed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrnx Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by Gabez Firstly, you do not have to blindly follow the Bible, hate gays, try to persudae everyone that what you think is right etc. to "love" Jesus. I believe there is a God, though I don't know exactly what He is like. I also believe in Jesus, and "love" him because of the good things he said (the things that haven't been warped by people like you). Secondly, it's a joke, I'm making fun of you. And: If you hate gays because the Bible says you should, then if the Bible told you to fly a plane into a building, would you do it? I see a very thin line between you and the 9/11 Terrorists. Doomgiver: not much since you last posted, I'm afraid. :~ I don't hate gays, only their lifestyles. "Love the sinner, hate the Sin" Making fun of me and every other Christian is one BIG mistake you made. On the day of Judgement every single little detail (even the ones you think are hidden) will be unveiled... Lyrnx (has left his mark) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Ow c'mon. Jesus is a very kind and loving man, and if he comes back to judge over us, he will take everyone to heaven that doesn't say stuff like: 'You're total crap!' against him. I'm sure that if it were to happen it wouldn't be as (Waht's that word again?) as you say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 would you dare to answer my question only once?? please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by Lyrnx "Love the sinner, hate the Sin" Read the first post on this page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort-Hog Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 http://morto.dyndns.org/threadmap.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 aahaha. very good. indeed. but you forgot "hell". damnit how am i supposed to find it if i will go there? XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Originally posted by Mort-Hog http://morto.dyndns.org/threadmap.jpg Well someone had a little too much time on his hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted July 17, 2004 Author Share Posted July 17, 2004 lol, thats funny. good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Doesn't work on my pc... But anyway, ET is right. Et maes a great point, as he so frequently does. Even more frequently he's just a sarcastic lil' s.o.b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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