Prime Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 One thing I love about Star Wars is stormtroopers, regardless of whether they can hit anything or not. When I first saw bneezy's screenshots of a stormtrooper model in KOTOR, I was excited. Unfortunately, it is illegal to port assets from one Star Wars game to another. Since the model from those original screenshots was from Jedi Academy, that ment that the mod could not be released. However, Hapslash had made an superior stormtrooper model for Jedi Academy, and thankfully he has given permission for others to use it. bneezy has been kind enough to port the custom helmet into KOTOR. To avoid legal issues, I decided to make a custom skin that could be included with the helmet and released to the community. There is still a little bit of tweeking to do, but his a shot of the helmet: Originally, the idea was just to port the helmet. But I think the mod would be better if it had actual armour to go with it. To that end I have decided to skin stormtrooper armour from one of the KOTOR armour models. Thanks again to Hapslash for the model and to bneezy for porting it. In the end, I hope we can release both player armour and a Sith Trooper replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 One word. Perfect!!!!!!Is there a chance we can see a Clone trooper version? Xavier2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Originally posted by Prime Unfortunately, it is illegal to port assets from one Star Wars game to another. Since the model from those original screenshots was from Jedi Academy, that ment that the mod could not be released. To avoid legal issues, I decided to make a custom skin that could be included with the helmet and released to the community. Since you raised this subject. Do you think it'd be ilegal to use characters and/or portraits from Star Wars movies? Xavier2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 I can't wait Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBuzzard Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 I wouild belive so Xavier, but the person to ask is Mrs. Pianist turned Lawer (Darth333). She knows all the legal stuff And wow Prime! I eagerly await the day it's released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 26, 2004 Author Share Posted September 26, 2004 Thanks guys. Originally posted by Xavier2 Is there a chance we can see a Clone trooper version? I'm not thinking about doing that right now, really. I suppose I will have to see how I feel after I am finished this mod. It also depends if a clonetrooper model's original author agreed to allow us to use it, and if bneezy would be willing to port it. Right now, I'd say probably not. Originally posted by Xavier2 Do you think it'd be ilegal to use characters and/or portraits from Star Wars movies? Well, modding KOTOR is technically illegal, but it is tolerated. I think if a mod was made to recreate SW characters, that would be tolerated as well. OK, I'm trying to decide which armour model to use as a base, and I need some opinions. First, here is an example of stormtrooper armour: Now, here are the two base armours I'm thinking of using: For the one on the left, the pros are that the wrists are better, and the overall armour is less bulky, like the stormtrooper. The con is that there are pockets that extand out from the front of the chest. For the one on the right, the pros are that it is easier to skin because a lot of armour is in the right places already, and so the model is shaped a bit better. The cons is that the forearms aren't quite right, and it is bulkier. What do you guys think would be best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBuzzard Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 The one on the right. Definentally. It would skin a much better Stormtrooper. On the left, a lot of the textures are weirdly placed for trooper armor. Think how nice this is gonna go with orsans E-11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Originally posted by Prime For the one on the left, the pros are that the wrists are better, and the overall armour is less bulky, like the stormtrooper. The con is that there are pockets that extand out from the front of the chest. For the one on the right, the pros are that it is easier to skin because a lot of armour is in the right places already, and so the model is shaped a bit better. The cons is that the forearms aren't quite right, and it is bulkier. What do you guys think would be best? well, the one on with the pockets can be fixed so that they're flat. for info on that, check out svosh's 3d modeling tips. he actually did exactly what your talking about. i think that xavier2 did the same thing for his boba fett armor. so, that would be my opinion, although it would be more work. so, good luck!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi_5002 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 I choose option 3: Have you make your own, correct stormtrooper armor. But since that is not very likely... I choose the second one (based on the special Cassus (sp?) Fett armor, if I am not mistaken (or the regular)). After looking at the picture of a stormtrooper you provided, it seems to fit better to me. The image with the pockets doesn't look restrictive to movement enough, but the other does. If you were to color the arm sleeves (the green-ish parts) and the hands to look more like the stromtrooper's (for the image on the right), then it would be even better. Just my 25¢. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Gotta go with the one on the right. :trooper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 Originally posted by stingerhs well, the one on with the pockets can be fixed so that they're flat. for info on that, check out svosh's 3d modeling tips. he actually did exactly what your talking about. i think that xavier2 did the same thing for his boba fett armor. so, that would be my opinion, although it would be more work. so, good luck!! :D Thats correct. Svosh proved its possible with a medium armor and i made the same with the soldier clothes. I was able to do it with pockets and the strap linking the chest and the backpack. My vote is for the class9 armor. Although its bulkier, it fits better with the helmet size. An idea mono_giganto gave to my Boba Fett helmet was to scale down the helmet, give it a disguise property, create it as a new head and replace the head of the character. Xavier2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Thanks for the opinions, fellas. Originally posted by DarthBuzzard Think how nice this is gonna go with orsans E-11... Do you have a link for that? I might ask if I can use it as part of the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by Achilles Gotta go with the one on the right. :trooper: Ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBuzzard Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 http://kotormods.t-k.ru/ - used to be on the front page; I've tried to go exploring in there, can't find it, and here the search is disabled . Good luck finding it. :Edit" Ta-da! http://kotormods.t-k.ru/mods/e-11.htm Click the hammer thing and stick it in override. bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Never mind. I seem to have found it buried away on my harddrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBuzzard Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Dang! All that trouble I went through to find it on Orsan's webby... Well good luck Prime...can't wait to see it all finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I'd say the one on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bneezy Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 That is better than anyone could have hoped! The one on the right. Great job. I didn't know Stormtroopers were so sassy. That's definitely not the position of attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 27, 2004 Author Share Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by bneezy That is better than anyone could have hoped! The one on the right. Great job. Thanks man. Okay, it looks like the consensis is the one on the right. I'll go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormturmoil Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 just incidentally, has anyone been planning to do the Scout trooper armour ( for which the one on the left would be better, I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by Prime Thanks man. Okay, it looks like the consensis is the one on the right. I'll go with that. best of luck to ya!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shosey Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 this is great, I can't wait to see how it turns out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Originally posted by Xavier2 Since you raised this subject. Do you think it'd be ilegal to use characters and/or portraits from Star Wars movies? Xavier2 well i would see it as no, becoz we use Lightsabres, the Force, DS and LS, even Sith Lords names, eg Marka Ragnos - used in Jedi Academy so i would say that, but hey what do i know? DONT ANSWER THAT MattCole PS BLOODLY AMAZING STUFF PRIME!!!! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier2 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 I just bought the Star Wars trilogy DVD. Now, due to Prime, we'll be able to immerse into the old adventure and beat the crap out of the stormtroopers. Great job man!!! Xavier2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Great work Prime I cant wait to see those in game And with the old trilogy in DVD it makes it even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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