Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 but don't you think there is a reason why jar jar was the one GL chose to be trusted, even though he shouldn't have been trusted... i think there may be some ulterior motive here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockniel Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 In the DVD commentary on ANH, lucas says saomething to the effect of "now that its been out so long, you can't suprise people with general star wars overall, unless they're eight of nine year olds who have never seen it before" that made me so sad..... so hes definately leaning towards younger audiences with at least I and II, he may aim it higher for III, so far it looks that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Ockniel In the DVD commentary on ANH, lucas says saomething to the effect of "now that its been out so long, you can't suprise people with general star wars overall, unless they're eight of nine year olds who have never seen it before" that made me so sad..... so hes definately leaning towards younger audiences with at least I and II, he may aim it higher for III, so far it looks that way... I don't think that is what he means at all. I think he is saying that the special effects are not enough to make SW fans anymore, and that he now has to rely on story, characters, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 exactly, when star wars first came out in 1977 people were blown away by the SFX, because they had never seen anything like it. whereas now CGI is in every other film, people are no longer impressed by SFX, certainly nowhere near as much as they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Indeed. It really is amazing what people will go "meh" to these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 meh, actually, i am still impressed by the SFX of the OT, not so much the PT, but i think i just envision seeing OT in the 70s and 80s, and then i appreciate what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 This one needs repeting again PS: I sensed a great distubance in the force! As if Disney bought Star Wars From Luca$ and now making kid movies! Millions of fans cry out in terror, and were sudenly silenced! I used to like Jar Jar when I first saw TPM but then a year or two ago while watching the film I suddenly realised something very important: Half the time you can't tell what he's saying. For example, when he's saying why he was banished from the gungan city, he says something about "Crashyed the bosses heads levers, then banashed" I mean seriously - that can't be right. EDIT: But I think the thing with the language barrier is the whole gungan race. Can anyone understand everything that the gungan king (anyone know his name?) says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Originally posted by guybroom But I think the thing with the language barrier is the whole gungan race. Can anyone understand everything that the gungan king (anyone know his name?) says? Boss Nass. The modern language that the Gungans speak is a derivative of their native language, that is heavily influenced by Basic. The result is that you can tell what they say some of the time, but some words are entirely foreign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 It is the story of TPM! You must accept like it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Vader Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 If Jar Jar had not been in TPM, people wouldn't have had anything to complain about. As annoying as it was, at least he provided some comic relief (and something for people to make fun of). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutrider Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 If Jar Jar wasn't in TPM, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have never found the gungans, or saved Naboo. Without Jar Jar they couldn't have found the secret Gungan place... Though he is pretty dumb:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by TheOutrider If Jar Jar wasn't in TPM, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have never found the gungans, or saved Naboo. Without Jar Jar they couldn't have found the secret Gungan place... Though he is pretty dumb:p You are right. But anyway, TPM is the worsest STAR WARS filn ever made! George Lucas even said that he find this film not so good as it could be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 You just made a good point Outrider. Jar Jar had to be stupid or evil to be banished and therefore show the jedis the gungans. But if he was evil then padame wouldn't have made him a seniter and palpatine wouldn't have had the emergancy powers. So he HAD to be brain dead to be banished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Jar Jar would have been OK is he had been toned down in the "goofiness" department. Make him move around like a normal person, for the most part, don't have the eyes bug out, etc. I think the whole Gungan language needs refinement. From a linguistic standpoint, it could never happen. It's obvious that the Gungans took their language from the Naboo. If so, they should have spoken almost normal English, as opposed to the goofy, "English-aa" thta they speak. That is, unless, all Gungans are mentally retarded and unable to fully comprehend the language. Had Jar Jar been a little more human in his movements, spoken a more normal language, and not had such an annoying voice, I would have no problems with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborgninja Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Originally posted by sith_master2000 I've always wondered what TPM would be like if that stupid, screwed up, horribly insane, long toungued, ugly, stupid (I know I put stupid twice but it's so horribly stupid I had to put it on again), stinky, bad english speaking MORON Jar Jar Binka wasn't in TPM, would people like it more? I know I would! Anyway what do you guys think? *What sith_master2000 wants too do to Jar Jar Binks* MELT IT DOWN BLAST IT WITH A ROCKET LAUNCHER HACK AT IT WITH A CHAINSAW TORCH IT WITH A FLAMETHROWER BLAST IT WITH A CANNON Yes I'm happy now! It would be a better movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 even my mother found Jar Jar stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith_master2000 Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 LOL! Now that's funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idle Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Originally posted by boinga1 I think the whole Gungan language needs refinement. From a linguistic standpoint, it could never happen. It's obvious that the Gungans took their language from the Naboo. If so, they should have spoken almost normal English, as opposed to the goofy, "English-aa" thta they speak. That is, unless, all Gungans are mentally retarded and unable to fully comprehend the language. Have you ever heard of people from the UK who speak Gaelic or Welsh? Or have you ever actually been in contact with anyone who spoke a foreign language? Have you ever seen a Star Wars movie with Yoda in it? I think the language thing is hindered by the repetitiveness more than anything else, this is after all the SW Universe, it's expected. JarJar is annoying and I would never tire of punching his face in but I can live with him being in TPM, I like the movie but agree that it is the poorest of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Straker Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 It depends, it could make the movie less annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 i think it would be less anoying but then we have to ask why anyone with a brain would have given palpy the powers? It makes some sence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Well, one could argue that if Jar Jar hadn't been there, somebody else would have taken his place, and Palpatine could have influenced them to do his will, giving the same result (though with Jar Jar's buffoonery, it was probably pretty darn easy this way!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpatine Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I agree, Mas Ameeda could have voted him the emergency powers since he offered the idea anyway, besides I still wonder why he is counted as an "evil" senator.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guybroom Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Originally posted by Palpatine besides I still wonder why he is counted as an "evil" senator.... Have you seen the OT? ROTJ kind of answers your question. Also, he was the dark lord of the sith. You know - darth sidious - the guy count dooku worked for. The guy that made nute gunrey turn on the naboo. how much more do you need? He was the "evil" senator for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevhision Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 If you ignore Jar-Jar, and Jake Lloyd, PTM isn't that bad. But unforunately both of them take up alot of screen time. Hayden Christian is still bad but not as bad and Jake Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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