Elijah Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL How are they ironic, Zdawg? Im not going to help turn this into a debate thread any more than I already have, but anyone who visits the senate chambers would understand what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADD>uB< Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL That's basically what you did (in an admittedly smaller way) when you started this thread, isn't it? The thread's a celebration of an execution. I wouldn't say that , I'd say it's more of a celebration of justice. Now as for the way some ppl choose to express their feelings on the matter , it's just that ,it's their opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 I wouldn't say that , I'd say it's more of a celebration of justice.Surely saying "hooray, he's been convicted!" is celebrating justice, and saying "hooray, he's going to die!" is celebrating his death. No debate about that distinction methinks. Im not going to help turn this into a debate thread any more than I already have, but anyone who visits the senate chambers would understand what I meanThen I'll PM you to ask you specifically what you're referring to, as I for the life of me can't see any inconsistency in my position that might be construed as ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBell Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL Surely saying "hooray, he's been convicted!" is celebrating justice, and saying "hooray, he's going to die!" is celebrating his death. No debate about that distinction methinks. Then I'll PM you to ask you specifically what you're referring to, as I for the life of me can't see any inconsistency in my position that might be construed as ironic. Big words make KBell think. Thinking bad. Do you keep a dictionary by your side at all times Spider? Just a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Niner agree with KBell. Lots of big words. Niner not smart enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Do you keep a dictionary by your side at all times Spider? Just a questionYeah, it's called "my incredibly huge brain". Which I've always thought was a strange title for a dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 life inprisonment, but in isolation that way he never sees another living soul again and just rots in prison, thats more hell than dying, espcially by lethal injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted November 12, 2004 Author Share Posted November 12, 2004 Meh, i'd just like once to make a serious thread without my state of mind being questioned, my beliefs pissed on, and my opinions ridiculed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by IG-64 Meh, i'd just like once to make a serious thread without my state of mind being questioned, my beliefs pissed on, and my opinions ridiculed. hmmmmm well maybe you ask too much, the key of course is in rising above it because when you stay rational and your oponents get more stressed out and irrational they become much easier to defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Yeah, listen to Leper. You guys seem to be taking the fact that myself and others hold different opinions, rather... personally. Plus, if you want to start a thread in which there's no discussion at all, you might choose a topic that's less emotive and controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted November 12, 2004 Author Share Posted November 12, 2004 Oh so I should be more carefull about my topics and more selective of whats appropriate for the outcome of replies I want? I see. Forget it. I just wanted to inform the swampies of the news and create a nice topic. If I did something wrong then whatever. Btw, Leper, I personally hate the idea of "defeating an opponent" and all this competition crap that goes into these arguments that really shouldn't be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Oh so I should be more carefull about my topics and more selective of whats appropriate for the outcome of replies I want? I see.Sigh. Mate, I'm merely suggesting that you be realistic. If you were to create a topic on abortion, you'd HAVE to expect responses and lively discussion, wouldn't you? And as far as I can tell, nobody's accusing you of doing anything "wrong". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by IG-64 Btw, Leper, I personally hate the idea of "defeating an opponent" and all this competition crap that goes into these arguments that really shouldn't be here. ok so it was a bad phrase. "Get Your Point Across" may have been better. the idea was that you make them see your opinion makes sense, even if they dont agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalukai Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 good to see since the media streched this crap out 4 months longer than it should have been.... its not like he was an OJ... trials like this and worse happen all the time but never reached the eyes of the media hounds... what makes this chump better than any of the other scumbags???? oh yeah... gf scott....12-0... owned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverhoodian Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Ten bucks that this thread either gets locked down or moved to the Senate Chambers. Any takers? As to the original topic: Good riddance Scott. death penalty or no, chances are he's in for a world of hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBell Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Can't we all just be relieved he was actually CONVICTED of the murder and leave it at that? Leave the death penalty debate to the folks in the Senate Chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbrothers Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I was so afraid that he would get away with this. This is an extremely emotionally charged case with no question. I am in no way ashamed to say that any dime spent on feeding and housing that bastard is far too good for him. Neither am I ashamed of saying that I hope he gets the death penalty. Too bad he can die only once for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Using punishment as vengeance have no place in a civilized society, and should always be discouraged. "An eye for an eye, and the whole world would be blind" - Mahatma Ghandi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Breton Using punishment as vengeance have no place in a civilized society, And what other kind of "vengeance" is there? Puhleeze. Vengeance minus punishment is an empty meaningless concept. String this guy up by his balls and let the victims family play pinata with his skull. Hell, with modern science we could probably even have a doctor surgically implant a few small pieces of candy in his dome without causing so much damage he doesn't know what's happening. And it would be fun and educational for the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 So basically, you'd want to sink to his level, or even below that? Oh, I forgot. "He started it!". Punishment is primarily part of a treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Let us all just listen to Ghandi and let ther be no penalty for cold blooded murder. and while we are at it, no prison time... locking someone in a cell for the rest of thier life, is murder (no place to run, no way to hide, no way out, etc...) Seriously, how is that just? how is that fair to Lacy? she was killed by her husband, and he should walk free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Breton So basically, you'd want to sink to their level, or even below that? Oh, I forgot. "They started it!". Punishment is primarily part of a treatment. Well no, not me personally, as I have nothing against the man. But if that were my sister/mother/wife etc...Yeah. I'd want to go as many notches below the level of the horror of the crime he committed as the law would allow. In fact, if I was sure I'd never get caught, or nobody would care, I'd delve even further into the depths below his level to make sure I got satisfaction. Who started it would not concern me. Only who finished it. Too much money, tax paying money, is spent keeping these people pampered. I think capitol punishment is a fine, and under-used idea. I think petty crimes should also be met with death or at the very least, severe maiming. In fact, one of the most hillarious things I can think of involves replacing those annoying anti shoplifting security strips with small ammounts of explosives. Just enough to cripple and/or maim the person carrying the stolen goods. I have lots of good ideas if only people would stop being panzys and use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_hill987 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I say he should get life in prison. which is worse? being killed quickly and painlessly or having to think about what you have done for the next 50 years? killing him will release him from his suffering (unless you are religious and beleive he will spend eternity in hell, in which case 50 years or so waiting wont matter) death should be a release, not a punishment. for all those who think it shouln't be in the swamp... http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=140077 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by CapNColostomy Well no, not me personally, as I have nothing against the man. But if that were my sister/mother/wife etc...Yeah. I'd want to go as many notches below the level of the horror of the crime he committed as the law would allow. In fact, if I was sure I'd never get caught, or nobody would care, I'd delve even further into the depths below his level to make sure I got satisfaction. Who started it would not concern me. Only who finished it. Why should people have to be tortured and die just because you want to get your anger out? Barbaric. Imprisonment and punishment should only have the purpose to make the criminal be able to go back to society as an ordinary person. Two wrongs doesn't make one right. That's very important to realise. But I think this debate should continue in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak Yes, let's give them a nice comfy bed, and food, and take care of them for free for the rest of their life.... good use for tax payers' money. Yes, Jail is an utopia. One day when I grow up I hope to get in jail as well. Originally posted by jon_hill987 killing him will release him from his suffering But jail is an utopia? Or perhaps it does suck. Jail time for life puts you for years and years in a horrible life. Gives time to think about it, and let him suffer from HIS OWN anger. Not ours. Killing him means it's over and the rest of the world is happy someone is dead. Wishing someone is dead? If you wish to stop killing, you shouldn't encourage it like this. Killing shouldn't get a spot at all if you wan't to remove it. There's no "he started it!" Originally posted by Breton Using punishment as vengeance have no place in a civilized society, and should always be discouraged. "An eye for an eye, and the whole world would be blind" - Mahatma Ghandi Originally posted by ZDawg and while we are at it, no prison time... That is not the point. We are talking about prison. We weren't talking about no prison. No one suggested to let him go free. On-topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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