MistenTH Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 As far as I can tell, the Republic frequently thrash the CIS. They have the heavy armour for the most part, and when it comes to infantry battles, the jetpack allows them to go into the rafters and rain death from above, as well as having more mobility. The droideka just does not cut it as it's not manoeuvrable enough, and it's range of fire can be easily blocked by terrain. Anyone seen anything to the contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Stupid thread, you cant compare two extremly different faction. The republic ha an advantege with the jet trooper, but thats the way it's supposed to be, also the droideka has serious advantege with the fact that that they have a shield. they are good in different areas like the jet trooper is good on open terrein whilst the droideka is champ in tight places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'd say Republic. But that's just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immolator Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 The republic's biggest advantage is that as soon as the game starts half the CIS players switch sides and become jet troopers. If the sides are equal, they are about evenly matched i think, though an all jet trooper army obviously has the advantage on some maps. As long as the CIS team is half way competent the assault droids have no problem taking out armour, and the superior snipers can help the battle droids with the infantry. The droideka just does not cut it as it's not manoeuvrable enough, and it's range of fire can be easily blocked by terrain. Too be honest i only really use the droideka for taking far off CPs, but if properly supported they would probably do well. For example, if they work in concert with droid pilots in tunnels, the droideka can absorb enemy fire on it's shield whilst pilots fire grenades over it. Or assault droids could use it as cover to reload. Just think of it as a mobile barricade with blasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I always said and keep saying that the republic have too much of an edge. Sure the droideka's have a shield, but jet troopers can easily outmanouvre them and take out their shields with two shots. Next to that, half of the republics team consists out of jettroopers (if not more) and there are always a few to take out the droideka's. In other words: the droideka's have to time or chance to be usefull, cause they are being destroyed by the jettroopers. This all renders the droidekas useless. NEXT to that, there's also the superiority of jet troopers above normal infantry. Shots with the EMP launcher are one hit kills most of the time and the fact that the jettroopers can shoot from above to the ground gives them an even better advantage, since a near-hit is autmatically a hit (although the victim might survive one near-hit). The assault droid is a good unit and is a good trial to create a bit of balance, but it still isn't there. There has to be a big change before I would call republic vs CIS balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawaJoey Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 It's quite a good balance when the republic side isn't dominated by Jet Troopers. The Droideka is useful, but it could use some tweaking. The Super Battle Droid is the best Assault class unit in the game, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommygunner Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 i like the republic ... 1 reason is that well they have gernades and the cis have missles... they don't work as good... yea that is sort of a stupid reason but hey it is me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborgninja Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I like the repulbic better but i got to give it up for the assult driod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dark Jedi Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by Darth Alec Stupid thread, you cant compare two extremly different faction. Yes my thoughts exactly. If I had to choose I would choose Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immolator Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I don't think the Republic have too much of an actual advantage, its just that they're easier to play. One shot-kill flying missile launcher troops and the heaviest vehicles are easier to use than super battle droids and snipers. Take the two pilot classes- The republic pilot can charge up his weapon and almost kill anything in a shot, maybe a couple of blaster shots to finish it off. He doesnt even have to aim that well, and it causes damage to nearby enemies In comparison the droid pilot has a grenade launcher which is difficult to use, especially against troopers fliting around the sky raining EMP on you. But once the player gets used to it, he/she has a one-shot-kill weapon with 15 shots, and if you heal/restock yourself thats a potential extra 25 shots. 40 grenades= a lot of dead clones. The lower reload time and longer range then puts him at an advantage over the republic version- especially as the clone pilot tends to crisp nearby friends by mistake (,sorry to any team mates i did that to by the way). I'd always use the CIS if only because it's more of a challenge- and it's a no lose scenario. If we are defeated its game imbalance, if we win my team must be awesome Now, back to batting troopers out the air with grenade launchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starmark2k Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 In my opinion the clone army is the better of the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 The CIS is also much harder to master then the Republic which gives them an advantege over the CIS, since grenades are easy to use but not to master also the rockets are hard to master and hard to use becouse you have to aim more. As I said in my first post the jet trooper is not so hard to use as the droideka. The factions are to different to compare usefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 The first weeks after the SWBF release the Republic Troopers domianted the onlineplayer maps and lot of guys including me found that the Clones were uber. But it seams that people learned how to use each faction. In the last couple of weeks i noticed that CIS troops won more and more matches. Also on Jetpack friendly maps like Kamino wich was won by the Jettroopers in less than 2minutes the Droids can win now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immolator Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Also on Jetpack friendly maps like Kamino wich was won by the Jettroopers in less than 2minutes the Droids can win now. I found this too- probably because its so sniper friendly. If the clones get bottled up in the facility the jetpacks are useless and the game is as good as over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Yes, I too have noticed a small increase of the number of matches won by CIS, but still it's much less than the number of matches won by the Republic. Next to that, it may be true that you need to learn to fight with a particular unit to be able to take on the republic, but that goes only for those players that are stimulated to learn how to fight with units that usually lose the match. To illustrate: you and some other guy learned how to fight with the battledroid... there are still 14 teammates that may not have learned to fight with them. There will always be players who are less experienced with the game, and haven't learned how to fight with the battledroid. Another thing: you may learn overtime how to fight with the battledroid, but do you think the learning process of players using a jet trooper has stopped? Certainly not! Those players just learn how to pwn even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzerian Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I prefer the CIS. But jet-troopers really to become quite annoying when over used as there is almost nothing you can do to stop them. Usually you have them down to low health and then they become air borne and unless you have a ping below 100 there is pretty much nothing you can do except dodge the one hit kill emp rockets untill they land. But the republic pilot is the worst in my oppinion as there weapon has auto-aim and if charged up is a one hit kill to most units. IMO the republic pilot should have a shotgun like weapon like the rebel pilot and the jet-trooper should get either the weapon the pilot has or an emp greande launcher that doesnt explode on impact. You may say that then the republic will have no defence against droidekas but isnt that what the demolitions class is for, after all the droideka is a vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 yes, giving the jettrooper the gun of the clone pilot would certainly be for the good of the balance. Also reducing the splash damage from the EMP launcher to zero sounds like a good bet to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Darth Alec and Evil Dark Jedi , please try to refrain from attacking threads simply because you don't like the topic. Just trying to keep this an open and friendly place where people can post sincerely without fear of being ridiculed - thanks On topic, I have to say that I have more fun with the Republic, and almost always play the Jet Trooper. I know much has been made of the Jet Trooper's power, but let's also not forget that the Jet Trooper has a very slow refire rate, and low ammo load. Still, the shots pack a good punch, but you've really got to make your shots count. I have played the CIS a couple times, and mostly prefer the Super Battle Droid - it's really pretty powerful - especially it's wrist rocket launcher. The Droideka has power too, but it's rolling mode has something to be desired, and the "no strafing" is a huge liability. So, I'd have to say the Republic. Great question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immolator Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I don't think the Jet-trooper is particularly over-powered, but an entire team of them makes for a quick and boring game. In Call of Duty the number of specialist classes could be limited, and I think that this would help a lot here- e.g only 1/4 of the team are allowed to be the specialist (jet-trooper/droideka/dark trooper/ wookiee smuggler). This would make sense as these classes are all quite rare compared to the others. Only problem is people with faster connection times would nab all the specialists first, but if it makes the game more fun it might be worth a go as an option on servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 That's a good idea in limiting the amount of those classes. Maybe the trick would be to only allow a certain number of times a person on the team could play that class per map, that way even people with slower connections should get a shot at playing those classes at some point during the round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJedi_Reborn Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I sincerely think the Republic is better due to the Jet-Troopers of course and the Clone Pilots. The Clone Sniper also pack a punch against the CIS on specific maps such as Geonosis. The sniper could easily relieve the AT-TEs os the annoying Spider-Walkers. So in general, the Republic stands above the CIS even if the CIS had the Droideka. P.S- What about the Rebels and the Empire? I vote Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I actually prefer CIS. In recent play I've become a big fan of the droid sniper. Double zoom and hella accurate, it's become my favorite sniper class. The Republic sniper doesn't cut it for me anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet troop chris Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 im a jet tropper every game i hardly ever use emp rockets thougth i enjoy the pistol more i use emp rockets on droids to get their shield down then use my pistol so i dont yhave to reload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliquid Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 I say CIS because when I use the Super Battle Droid. I always kill Republic easy as cheese. But I am a master with the Super Battle Droid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Moogle Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Ok in the end, you all konw that the Republic will own, but in the historical, the empire will kill all, Hail Palpatine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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