Foshjedi2004 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I doubt that in the game Kyle Katarn will be a Jedi Apprentice. He didn't become a Jedi until after ANH when he fought Jerec. Mind you where is Keyen Farlander?? The Star of the original X-wing game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmaster3265 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I, too, agree with Insane Sith. Please don't just post "I agree messages" if you agree, state why and then add to the opinion with more facts. Posts like this are just spam. -darthfergie Lol, didn't you just not listen to your own advice? You say to state why you agree not just say "i agree" yet you just did. You didn't explain why you agree with Insane Sith.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 No, he didn't, J. That last part was written by darthfergie, not Obi-Wan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 That added message was inserted by a moderator, hence why it says "-darthfergie" at the end. Beat me to it. Not really much of a reason for Yoda to be in the game, when he never showed up in this time period. Wouldn't have a lightsaber anyhow, he lost it. So he wouldn't be the superunit so many people seem to want him to be anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 When people showed up in the movies are pretty irrelevant really. Same with when ships and units showed up in the movies. Irrelevant. What is relevant is when they came off the assembly line, or when they were born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I don't think Yoda belongs in the game because he never fights at any point in the game and that is what games like this are about, fighting and war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 When people showed up in the movies are pretty irrelevant really. Should have probably said "time period." Still not too great of an arguement, but I don't really see too much of a reason for Yoda too be in. It does go a bit against the point of the game, fighting with ordinary troopers and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKnight707 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Wouldn't have a lightsaber anyhow, he lost it. I never got this. Yea, he lose it to Palpatine during the fight, but he is a JEDI MASTER. I think that he can make another. Then he would have kicked Vader's ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrawn Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Katarn was only a mercenary in this time period, so it makes sense that he wouldn't be considered a jedi, but he's still powerful enough to be a hero. When did Jade become the Emperor's hand anyway? It still makes sense that she isn't a jedi. She may have special abilities, but they are unrefined and not as powerful as she will later develop them. I dunno, I sort of like the idea of having Yoda in the game. If the Emperor is going to be in as a economic hero or some other non-combat unit, the same status should be given to Yoda. He could be a morale boost for the units of whatever planet he's on or something. As for balance, it would be Vader vs. Obi-wan and a later developed Luke as opposing Jedi, which is not too unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I never got this. Yea, he lose it to Palpatine during the fight, but he is a JEDI MASTER. I think that he can make another. Then he would have kicked Vader's ***. I don't know why he didn't either, but... He didn't. It is a shame that some of the more loved things in the SW movies aren't being included in the game, like various ships and hundreds of Jedi, but I'm sure if given a chance, the game will still be quite fun with trooper against trooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie_john Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Yeah I here the arguement here and its good either way. My point is that Dagobah is a planet in this game. Why???? If yoda is not in it. Maybe yoda can't fight, he maybe like the empereor, he never really fights in the New hope either, never dawns a light saber in the original star wars movies either? Might be a moral unit that rallies their persecptive factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Perhaps, once the rebels capture Dagobah, then Luke can start his training? I don't know, I don't see a too huge reason for including that planet. We'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Perhaps, once the rebels capture Dagobah, then Luke can start his training? I don't know, I don't see a too huge reason for including that planet. We'll just have to wait and see. I don't see much of a reason either. It kind of perplexed me that it was in the game. It never was a pivital planet, even when Luke trained there. So to fight over that planet would just seem a little odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Maybe Yoda will be on the planet as a neutral character, that may fight with or against you, but not under your control and only on Dagobah. Could be, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthujun Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 I don't see much of a reason either. It kind of perplexed me that it was in the game. It never was a pivital planet, even when Luke trained there. So to fight over that planet would just seem a little odd. I doubt you would say this if they didn't put Dagobah in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I don't see much of a reason either. It kind of perplexed me that it was in the game. It never was a pivital planet, even when Luke trained there. So to fight over that planet would just seem a little odd. In the movies it may not be a pivotal planet, but the point of EaW is to make your own Star Wars universe history. I sure will implement Dagobah in my galatic conquest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I doubt you would say this if they didn't put Dagobah in the game. Of course he wouldn't have said it if Dagobah wasn't put in, there wouldn't be a reason to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrawn Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 A lot of the planets aren't critical to the SW universe if you're looking just at the movies. There wouldn't be any need for the majority of them. Compared to those, at least Dagobah is in the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 A lot of the planets aren't critical to the SW universe if you're looking just at the movies. There wouldn't be any need for the majority of them. Compared to those, at least Dagobah is in the films. So what if it was in the films. Remember also that even Hoth, even though mostly lifeless and devoid of cities, had a base built on it. That's the only reason it's in the game. Dagobah doesn't have a city on it. It has lots of life, but no cities. Also no bases. The only reason it's semi remarkable is because I hut was put up there and a certain Jedi inhabited it. There are good arguements for planets like Corellia which are pivotal in the Star Wars Expanded Universe, but don't show up in the movies. Where as Dagobah may show up in the movies, but there is little or no strategic value in the planet, not even to build a base on because the base would probably end up sinking into a swamp. I'm sure there will be some sort of bonus to be gained from occupying the planet in the game which will of course make it valuable, but in my opinion the value isn't warranted for a galactic conquest game like this. This is why I feel we didn't get a Dagobah in Rebellion and why Dagobah shouldn't be included in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthujun Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 later Dagobah gains the base after Luke establishes his stuff and like that. and they even out a gigantic statue on it where the hut was. you could aregue that it was EU, but just for the sake of mentioning that it wasn't a wasteplanet forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy2476 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 why does anyones give flying **** if yoda is in the game when they havn't even confirmed luke skywalker yet. if this includes a new hope how the hell can they not include luke? instead they throw in these completely BS Expanded universe charters while overlooking the main character of the time period? i could understand him not ebing in before with the whole, starts before a new hope. but then they show the destruction of the death star, and emporer palatine. if these things make it in and not luke ive comepletly lost faith in humanity. thank god for mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 later Dagobah gains the base after Luke establishes his stuff and like that. and they even out a gigantic statue on it where the hut was. you could aregue that it was EU, but just for the sake of mentioning that it wasn't a wasteplanet forever Which book was that? I don't remember reading that one. I've read Luke going back at least three times that I can remember, but I don't ever remember a base going up in any of the books. they havn't even confirmed luke skywalker yet. lol, true enough about the confirmation on Luke, I didn't even think about it, but now that you mention it he isn't in the list at all. Crazy. I guess that shows that the list probably isn't comprehensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 hey, but for the sake of the star wars fans i think Jedi is a necessity in EaW. Nope. What about us Star Wars fans who don't want Jedi? I'm a Star Wars fan, hence I want an accurate depiction of the universe without the Jedi and Sith that do not fit in. Sure, they may be fun to play with, but there's a time and a place for everything. Not to mention that Jedi and Sith are in 99% of all recent Star Wars games. The fans have all the Jedi and Sith they need. Re-watch A new Hope. Han Solo doesn't believe in the Force, and that Imperial officer doesn't know about the Force (even with Vader sitting right next to him!). Jedi and Sith were mythological figures and the Force was naught but kids' tales. Hence, adding Jedi and Sith into Empire at War is like adding angels in a World War II game or a dragon into Battlefield 2 - litterally. Add Jedi and Sith in the prequel games, and leave them out of Empire at War. Why does anyones give flying **** if yoda is in the game Thank you. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggie_john Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Randomguy2476, Good observation, no luke? nahhhhhh their just keeping stuff from us. Hell i woulnt be surprises if the damn b-wing ends up in the game. What is this talk about no jedi and there not important to star wars. Hell the whole story is about the return of the jedi. The story of a young jedi leading a rebellion to victory over a dark sith lord. Come on.... People love jedi, why do you think they put them in Battlefront 2. Me I would love to recruit young patawons tht could grow into jedi or sith(dark jedi) over time, but they could be killed in battle no respawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Extas Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Something else with that... I accually believe that the Star Wars Movie series is about Anakin(he is in all the movies). During the first part we do notice all of the side battles and soon the Revenge of the Sith(Peek of Sith power{In other words Order 66}). Though Eagle Empire at War is a prequel game, just to the movies and any game that are around the movie times and/or after. For the most part the Jedi/Sith conflict is the base of the Star Wars universe (asside from the accasional crime problem[ e.g. Bounty Hunters, Smuggling, Robbery, Assasination]). The Rebellion started because the Dark Lord of the Sith, Emporer Palpatine(Darth Sidious) came to power within the old republic's government. As well in the past before the old republic there were sith problems. After the battle of endor too, the reborn Palpatine as well as the rise of the fragmented Imperials left in the galaxy. A side fact: George Lucas originally wanted the Return of the Jedi movie to be called the revenge of the Jedi... but a jedi is not a person who would get revenge now would he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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