Boran Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Will there ever be any modding tools? I was reading the Liscense Agreement, and it says You may Not: (6) Design or Distribute Unauthorized Levels Does that mean they will not let anybody mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BFG]DAWG Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I believe the current rumor is that there will be a mod kit and that it will be fully supported by the developers this time. However at the moment I believe it's only a rumor. The license agreament may be suggeting however that you can not distribute for profit, I find it kinda strange that developers of SWBF2, being it is a FPS would go out of their way to make it difficult for the game to succeed by saying only authentic maps or models etc can be used, especially as most of the servers ( if not all ) are privately run by the community, not to mention they certainly allowed modding and mapping for SWBF1. There are already mods out there for SWBF2 and no one has been hauled of by the FBI yet, so I wouldn't be overly concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerted Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I authorize any levels I download. I don't want 'spyware 'to track levels I download and start downloading similar levels without my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Will there ever be any modding tools? I was reading the Liscense Agreement, and it says You may Not: (6) Design or Distribute Unauthorized Levels Does that mean they will not let anybody mod? Gee THAT sucks! So modding is officially not allowed (at least new levels)... unless they're "authorized" meaning an official expansion pack or mod pack is probably all we'd ever see. I hope they change that otherwise they're really shooting themselves in the foot. Why allow it for SWBF1, but not 2? Do they have something special planned? The only mods I've seen so far are the hex edited variety. Ouch... LucasArts! I guess this is maybe to make the console gamers feel less left out, since free mods is always a major draw for the PC side. Bummer... As far as being "authorized" I assume they mean each mod maker has to run it by Pandemic/LucasArts to get their permission first. That's extremely lame. And recall that Lucas lawyers have in the past successfully shut people down or got them to C&D with stuff. All they have to do is target some major mod site and boom... "problem solved." Hard to get your mod noticed if nobody can download it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 There's only one solution: we demand a mass boycott of Lucasarts things until they release mod tools for the PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 They'll probably respond by going "see? I told you the console market was where the money was!" and continue to churn out crap. Still, it's as good an idea as any! There's no excuse to make SWBF1 and 2 single player games for the console and say screw everyone else, which is so far what they've been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biny Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Do they have something special planned? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 The license agreement is the same as you find in SWBF1 so don´t care. And LA needs to release a patch first supporting addon maps before releasing tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Well if they're not going to allow modding, they darn well better release a decent patch and some free addons to make up for it. C'mon, don't they know what PC gamers have come to expect nowadays? They can't just expect us to be happy with minimal support at this stage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex533 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 The latest :: The patch should be completed in about a week. BUT, it has to go through testing and may or may not be bundled with a LEVEL EDITOR application. It will depend on when the LEVEL EDITOR is complete. So, don't expect it next week. This patch addresses the dual core CPU issue along with other technical bugs, but may include some gameplay and user interface fixes. Don't expect any new levels, weapons or characters, etc., in this patch. -k apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Where did you hear this/how do you know this, out of curiosity? Does your source know if this is the only patch, or will others follow it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerted Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 ...The patch should be completed in about a week. BUT, it has to go through testing and may or may not be bundled with a LEVEL EDITOR application. It will depend on when the LEVEL EDITOR is complete... Well I need some type of Software Engineering internship/co-op for the summer-winter quarters. Where do I sign up? Edit: I was going to ask another question, but Kurgan beat me to it and how I didn't see his post 30min before mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BFG]DAWG Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Where did you hear this/how do you know this, out of curiosity? Does your source know if this is the only patch, or will others follow it? He got it from a reliable source. I too have received this information. As to their being another patch, it's very likely. The merger with Bioware has given Pandemic a great deal of new resources and the good word is that they are intent on making this game a success. As for modding, they will be actively seeking to get the community active in the mod department, in an attempt to increase the games popularity and longevity. Hope this makes some of the doubters cheer up a little. Merry Christamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Yeah right..... I have lost all trust in LA and pandemic a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerDOTcom Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Cmon dude don't lose faith in LA Its not their fault Pandemic is so lazy. . .Or is it? ok wheres the SDK!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Sam:. Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Battlefront 2 The patch=End of January Map tools=Shortly after patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I see the post in the LucasArts Forums (posted by a moderator on Jan 16th) and they said "by the end of January." Mod tools AND a patch. So that pretty much confirms that mod making will be allowed... thanks LucasArts, you had me scared for almost 3 months there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBF_Dann_Boeing Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 its febuary.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerted Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 And no one ever said the patch or mod tolls would be released in January, only that they might be released if they didn't run into any problems (which they did according to the latest annoucment). The next possible release dates are the middle of this week for the patch, and whenever its done for the mod tools. Mod tools has always been said to be released sometime after the patch, a date has never been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxloef Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 god u peopl;e here r a bunch of nobs uf u check the lucasarts forums it says they were gonna expect it be released mid next week which was this week but it hsent showed up YET the patch would include the mod tools jeez people get ur info staightened out <_< its in the annoucnements on lucasarts forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I say patience. They mod tools are taking a long time to make sure that they are fully supported, unlike those for Battlefront I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 They were clear about "by the end of the month" (which would be January, since the announcement was made IN January!) and "by the middle of next week" which would have been February 8th, because a week is seven days, so the fourth day (sun, mon, tues, WED!) is the "middle day" when you're looking at a calendar. I don't see why people are so upset in stating that "they never gave a specific date" as if they are correcting people. If I tell you I'll give you something "tomorrow" and today is Sunday, then you'll assume I mean Monday. And then when I don't do so and then say "but I never said Monday" would you take that as a valid excuse? C'mon now, that's just silly. The only way to get around that and still be honest is to say you forgot what day it was when you made the statement. It's one thing to say that programming is hard and time consuming and making estimates about release dates isn't an exact science, but really. On the LucasArts forums people are using that excuse over and over to bash anyone who says "where's the patch"? On or after the day that the moderators posted when the patch would be arriving. They didn't even give an announcement after the first delay, so we have no idea what's going on. So people can hardly be faulted for asking. It's Sunday. It's the end of the week (they said middle of the week). No announcement. They're late, so it's a fact. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerDOTcom Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 THANK YOU, KURGAN!!! lol guess we just gotta wait for another announcement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerted Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 More of the bashing is aganist the people stating things like its the 11th at 12:01am here and the patch isn't out (delete 7 swear words). They said it would come out on the 11th. Lets sue those (more swear words). Some people over there are getting really mad. These forums are much nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toue Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 i say if they release tools we should consider that particular statement null and void (i've always wanted to say that) and it seems we should be thankful we seem to have some sorta jedi force field protection thing over this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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