90SK Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I'm with you Hai Wan. At the very least it shows a lack of imagination, at worst ignorance of the Universe. Or lack of concern to script in more variations on the basis that no one will care either way. I know I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 1. Obsidian was living on a budget of peanuts and can't afford new alien voices, models, skins and such. 2. Obsidian was being slapped around by LucasArts to do everything fast and so they just took some models, modified them and threw them in. 3. Aliens were too smart to join some crappy organisation like the Jedi Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleDog Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Except that 1 and 2 don't wash because Aliens are cheaper than humans, because they don't need voice overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Or course they do. If one of the Jedi masters just spoke bland twi'lek language, people would complain that OE cheaped out on them. Same goes for if they used a generic twi'lek head. Humans have aesthetic appeal. And, they're easier to make unique. If they made one of the masters a twi'lek, they would have to make him unique. And then how would it look to have only one unique twi'lek in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Actually, I was hoping they could have placed A Zabrak in there. They could easily modify that over the Bao-Dur skin. We've had too many Twi-Leks, so I wouldn't like those. Maybe a Sullustan Jedi? Or that species of "The Champ"? Would make a nice alternative to Yoda/Vandar. I say they should ahve created a new species entirely. They could take a human and modify him slightly to make him/her slightly alienish. That reminds me, wasn't Atris Echani? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 If I remember the bat species "the champ " is (Cheddar-Fan, or something like that) can't speak basic, just like twookies. And yes, a jedi like that would be annoying to say the least, with those high pitch screams. Now how about a Tusken... we know its possable, or a Jawa(yes we assume Yoda is not a jawa)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanda Keon Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 And also sullastan won't even fare against mining droids: sonic mine gibber twice as fast but then again It won't be as bad as a bith (bang!) What about a Gammorean or a quarren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I think perhaps they did this because there are several non-human Jedi on your team: Bao-Dur, Visas, possibly Handmaiden. Are Echani human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soogz Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I didn't realy care either. I mean humans or aliens, its cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Rob, why does it make sense the Council to be human, just because you are. As to the Alien Jedi speaking Basic, well lets face it, they were all educated on Coruscant or Dantooine or at another Enclave and they have to be able to deal with everybody, so Basic is the most logical language for them to speak. And you aren't? The fact is, Star Wars is about a human hero. Not a Twi-Lek princess Leia, not a Chadra-Fan Luke, or a Sullustan Anakin. With that in mind, it goes the same way for other very important characters. As for language, if you originally spoke English, then were educated in a Russian country, would you always speak Russian afterwards because you were eduacated in it? Wouldn't you normally prefer to fall back to your native language? As for other issues, diversity is one of them. What can you really do to make a Twi-Lek look different than any other Twi-Lek bum off the street? The most you can really do is the clothes and make him either red, green, blue, purple, or whatever. With humans, there are many, many different looks, and so a better personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus Q'ol Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Let me see... Would it have changed the game in any way if there had been a more diverse selection of races on the counsel in K2? I really don't think so. That being said, it probably would have had a more "Starwarsie" feel if there would have been, let's say, a Quarren or Twilek on the counsel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 And you aren't? The fact is, Star Wars is about a human hero. Not a Twi-Lek princess Leia, not a Chadra-Fan Luke, or a Sullustan Anakin. With that in mind, it goes the same way for other very important characters. Echani is considered near-human, and yes they can breed with human. Think a chiss, a good example of a near-human. A Twi'lek Princess would be wonderful, though it would be hard to explain why she would be the blood sister of a chadra-fan!!! But I do prefer a more warsie feel world with more aliens on the council. As for how you distinglish a Twi'lek, well, the character generator on SWG would be a nice one to start, also male Twi'leks sometimes have small pairs of tentacleoid at their chins, and bumps on their heads. These are quite optional, but yes, one can make a male twi'lek w/o these features also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 American? Its still called English, I'm afraid. The repeat dialogue was a little annoying but far more annoying was the homogenity in K2. Not the way it's speeched in Yankland As for the "generic alien language" the Jedi involved in the murder mystery speaks, it's Twi'leki, which is about the second-most widely spoken language in the Republic/Sith/Outer Rim, IIRC. The problem with an all-White, Anglo-Saxon council is that it's somewhat racist (in that it perhaps reflects the views of certain members of OE? Not saying it does, it just seems to imply that...), and also quite dull. Also, all three major masters are male. Frankly, it'd be nice if there was even a Twi'lek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 1. Obsidian was living on a budget of peanuts and can't afford new alien voices, models, skins and such.But there are tons of new alien models, voices and skins in TSL! There are Sullustians, Quarrens, Devaronians, and so on. In any event, I believe there were 12 seats in the council on Coruscant when the Exile was kicked out, and there were only about six masters present in the cutscene. So it is completely conceivable that some or all of the remaining memeber were aliens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus Q'ol Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 So where were they? on Jedi vacation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Likely they were out in the galaxy dealing with Jedi missions. In any event, there were more seats than masters present, so there must have been more council members. Or do the Jedi just like to put their feet up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus Q'ol Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 It does seem odd that only human jedi remained. Are you saying that only alien jedi were out on missions or is the whole counsel human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.