Lord Pickle Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Ok. We know that Bastila is alive and that the exile is alive and that Bao-Dur, the Disciple, Mira, Brianna, and Atton are the lost Jedi to be trained by the exile. However what happened to Jolee Bindo and Jauhani? Did they die at the hands of the assassins to? I was pretty bumbed thinking about that the first time I played TSL and heard about the exile being the last of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbag Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 The Exile was not the last, that was a rumour. What happened to Jolee and Juhani is unkown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 There are questions on if Jolee and Juhani were on Visas's homeworld when it was destroyed by Darth Nihilus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pickle Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 There are questions on if Jolee and Juhani were on Visas's homeworld when it was destroyed by Darth Nihilus. I forgot about that one. I really hope they are still alive, well mostly I hope Jolee is alive I liked him. I was rather indifferent to Juhani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 There are questions on if Jolee and Juhani were on Visas's homeworld when it was destroyed by Darth Nihilus. Where? I'd like to see that... I assumed that Jolee returned to Kashyyyk. Most of the Jedi are dead. Hunted by Sion and Nihilus. But there are some (most likely around a hundred, at most) that have survived, and gone in to hiding until the threat of these 'true Sith' is dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Right on Doc. Vrook is the one that states it plainly that the other Jedi are scattered and in hiding until the threat reveals itself. Still i would like to know what happened to Jolee because well, I just like his character alot and he seems to get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I think they didn't mention Juhani (LS or DS) because 1) you can kill her in the grove and 2) you can kill both Jolee and Juhani if you go DS at the temple. It kinda of annoys me though, because I always like both of them and wanted to see them if I set Revan to LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayJedi Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 If the LS ending is correct. The Katarr meeeting was for all jedi affiliated with the Order and I speculate that Jolee might be alive because he stated he was fed up with Order and left for good (entire Nayama incident), so chances are he didn't return to the Order at the end of KOTOR, he might have kept his Gray Jedi ways like me Juhani on the other hand was affiliated with the Order so she might have been on Katarr. Who knows we will have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I think Jolee switched his lightsaber off after the defeat of Malak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyjedi Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think Kreia answered it best when she tells Exile that whoever has survived is either in hiding or has given up the order. Jolee almost certainly falls into the latter catagory. Juhani? Dead, turned, or left the order, all could work for her. As for Kataar, I don't believe "all" the jedi were meant to be at the meeting, although the majority of the masters, at least from Dantooine certainly were. I mean, if ALL of them were supposed to be there, Vrook would have met his end with the rest and I wouldn't have to have dealt with his arrogant condescension (which more nearly caused my fall to the dark side than any other event in the game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 i think it was mentioned somewhere that after the destruction of the Star Forge (or the republic fleet) a large number of Jedi went into hiding, much like Jolee's initial exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper_Kazai Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think Jolee and Juhani weren't included because you are able to kill them, if you wanted to. If they were included, it'd feel like "you can play the game on the Dark side, but you're really supposed to be on the Light side!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayJedi Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 As for Kataar, I don't believe "all" the jedi were meant to be at the meeting, although the majority of the masters, at least from Dantooine certainly were. I mean, if ALL of them were supposed to be there, Vrook would have met his end with the rest and I wouldn't have to have dealt with his arrogant condescension Good point, I forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I think Jolee and Juhani weren't included because you are able to kill them, if you wanted to. If they were included, it'd feel like "you can play the game on the Dark side, but you're really supposed to be on the Light side!". But if you set Revan's allignment to LS in the convo with Atton on Peragus, that means that Jolee and Juhani survived no matter what. Therefore, their absence begs an explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 But if you set Revan's allignment to LS in the convo with Atton on Peragus, that means that Jolee and Juhani survived no matter what. Therefore, their absence begs an explanation. As they were i no way relevent to the plot of the second game it was obviously easier just not to mention them at all. Would be cool to see Jolee agai in no. 3 somehow tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbl1 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I agree w/ The Doctor. Jolee probably returned to Kashyyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playloud Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I think Jolee and Juhani weren't included because you are able to kill them, if you wanted to. If they were included, it'd feel like "you can play the game on the Dark side, but you're really supposed to be on the Light side!". However, Bastila makes an appearance in TSL (if you chose LS at the beginning), and you can still kill her in KoTOR 1, even if you were LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 As they were i no way relevent to the plot of the second game it was obviously easier just not to mention them at all. Would be cool to see Jolee agai in no. 3 somehow tho. The fact that they were in no way relevant is what begs the question: why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden Kenobi Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I doubt Jolee returned to Kashyyyk, afterall he did say he got tired of kilometers of high trees and wanted to leave. As for Juhani it could be both ways, either you killed her at the Grove (LS or DS) or you killed her at the Unknow Regions(DS) or she could have just left Revan and the other. I´m just wondering something Carth and Bastilla apper in TSL but do I actually get to see and speak with them? And Revan too? (LS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 As far as i know, you get to speak to a sort of hologram of Revan in the Korriban caves. When you see bastilla, she's a mute, and carths one of the admirals looking for you. The one you get the most interaction with is Revan, but again, i suppose it doesnt count cos he/she's just a hologram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch0g0nda Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 The Revan you find in the cave isn't really a hologram. More a manifestation of the demons the Exile carries within himself; much like the 'Vader,' That Luke, faced on Dagobah in ep.V. Carth isn't Jedi and as such not relevant. (Might as well bring up Canderous while your at it) As for Bastilla, she isn't a mute. If you're LS, her and Carth have a conversation with each other on the Telos space station in one of the apartments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyjedi Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 If you set Revan as LS Female, you have a conversation with Carth when you go back to Citadel station to fight Nihilous. This in addition to viewing the hologram. Oddly, Exile doesn't seem to make the connection, no matter how high the awareness stat is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper_Kazai Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I haven't played KotOR II past Peragus, so... Can't you fight Malak and Revan in TSL? I read some of my friend's TSL strategy guide and talked to my friend and he said you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 Well with Revan you fight him in the hidden tomb quest on Korriban. You revisit the moments of your past. Malak you don't see but there is some reference to him along the way. Talk to Kreia and the NPCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper_Kazai Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I really need to get TSL now... I hadn't before because I still hadn't beaten KotOR I... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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