Darth Newfie Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I agree with you Redtech, Felucia sucked! It was by far the most confusing and worst map out of all of them. The Rhen Var and Bespin maps are all that I play on BF 1. They should include Felucia in BF 3 but make it better than they did in BF 2. The only time I ever play on Felucia is in the Rise of the Empire campaign mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I think they should put in a map like Planet X mod map for BF1 in, the battle on that map is amazing. There is a long wide bridge. Each team has a side and in the middle if a town. There are 4 CPs. The fight is amazing. You cant run into the fight like you can in BF2 and expect to move more than a few feet with out dieing. Felucia would have better had 1. the mist been a lot less and 2, most of the CPs taken out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Making the vehicles non-suck would have helped as well. Seriously, what's wrong with having the AT-ST as the MBT of the Imperial army? Just another thing to add, erm, sort out the classes, give every classs a 'rapid fire gun-thing' then just give them specialised kits like BF2142 where the sniper can get an SMG! Oh and maybe it'd be good if gaining command posts just added a benefit in that you could respawn there, rather then depleting respawn tickets. I HATE levels like Hoth (for Imps) where if you don't capture a command post in time to stop reinforcements dropping, YOU LOSE! What if I want to drag an AT-AT to echo base, like in the film? Also would prevent some levels like Polis Massa becoming a race to capture posts then just camping forever. Actually, make XL mode the default, that pretty much covered it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morthon Gyzaall Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 To Mothon Gyzaal - Btw , the crab droid shouldn't be a vehicle, its a droid like the homing spider droid but since the spider droid id already in Battlefront it wouldn't be that bad. The idea of being able to hurt troops in the hangar by bombing the area over the hangar is cool as well as the idea of being able to destroy the shield in the hangar and all the troops get sucked out. I know it's not actually a vehicle, but a advanced battle droid...but they made Homing spiders Droids pilotable, which actually is also just a advanced battle droid like the Crab Droid, so I thought i'd put him with the vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Making the vehicles non-suck would have helped as well. Seriously, what's wrong with having the AT-ST as the MBT of the Imperial army? Now we're just contradicting ourselves. Before BF2 came out, one of the biggest complaints was the vehicle power. I personaly would like to see things like the ATAT and ATTE be like BF1 ones where they kick ass, things like the ATTE be like BF1 and other stuff have either BF1 lasers and weaker armor or strong armor and BF2 weapons. And maybe some differences between the medium tanks, the imp, rep and CIS vehicle had the exact same attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 You see the problem was, that the levels were mainly crap where vehicles were concerned (rhen Var had very good defencive positions though), and the splash damage for weapons was insane! Now consider if they hurt the same, but anti-tank weapons had no splash damage, and anti-inf weapons had splash damage. The AT-AT was too powerful in my opinion the splash was INSANE! Really they should define what "role" the vehicle has. For example, the droid tank should have splash with it's missiles, as they seem anti-infantry rockets (that can only aim forwards, a very large weakness) while the side guns look more like machine guns (in damage and power) and the main cannon should only be fatal on direct hit. Sound reasonable? Perhaps the vehicles should be primarily anti-tank with a secondary position that is better for anti-infantry? Also, the maps define the role. If more levels had sensible levels of cover and space to maneuvere, vehicles wouldn't be so dominating. At the same time, you need to have ample amounts of space for them to drive around with. Utatpu just failed on both IMHO, the tanks could only drive up or down a small ramp and infantry could combat without ever needing to fight any tanks anyway. Oh, and I doubt that the Clone scout walker should be able to stand up to a tank! It's tiny. It's a primarily anti-infantry scout surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 The AT-RT is only able to stand up to a tank mainly because the AI is too stupid to figure out that you are a threat right away. But I do think that its mortar launcher should be SMALLER. It is a one-man light patrolling vehicle for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 No, seriously, stand an AT-RT in front of the AAT, and just pummel it. If the tank gunner isn't there, you've got a win! WTF is that? A direct hit from a missile or heavy weapon should be an insta kill (to balance it out, I'd make the AT-RT move a bit faster and sleeker, like in the film). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kravus Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Here's a list of stuff I'd like to see in SWBF III; Bigger maps, but not too big, cos it'll take too long to get around them. Bring back flying ships on land battles! They were well ace! Make the number of people you can get in an army bigger - about 100 Make the maps on capital ships bigger, or make them as seperate maps, so you can go on the bridge, and other places. Make the campaign mode longer so it at least gets to the end of Eps VI - I got to the end of the Hoth Battle, and the credits came up, and I was like 'What?!?!' Bring in Qui-Gonn-Jin as a heroe! He was nowhere in BF I or II Here's a list of the maps I think should be included; CORUSCANT Jedi Temple Senate Chamber Streets Space General Grievous' Ship YAVIN IV Forest Temple Space NABOO Grasslands Gungan City Theed (Hangar and Palace) Core Space GEONOSIS Desert (Republic only) Spire (Galactic Civil War only) Droid Factory (Galactic Civil War only) Arena (With a Reek, Acklay, and Nexu running round.) (Galactic Civil War only) Asteroid Field (Space) (Galactic Civil War only) MUSTAFAR Lava collection place DEATH STAR I Space (With the trench) (Galactic Civil War only) Interior (Galactic Civil War only) BESPIN Cloud City (With the carbon freezing chamber) Landing Platforms ENDOR Forest (With Ewok city) (Galactic Civil War only) Bunker (Galactic Civil War only) Space (With Death Star II) (Galactic Civil War only) DEATH STAR II Emperor's quatres (Galactic Civil War only) Space (With reactor core) (Galactic Civil War only) TATOOINE Desert Mos Eisley Jabba's Palace (Galactic Civil War only) Sarlaac Pit HOTH Desert (With AT-ATs) Hangar Space (With asteroid field) POLIS MASSA Medical Centre DAGOBAH Swamp RHEN VAR Harbour Space NAR SHADAA City KESSEL Spice Mines MYGEETO City Space KASHYYYK Beach Head Space FELUCIA Jungle Space TANTINE IV Interior And here's a few of the classes I think you could spawn as: Republic Clone Trooper Heavy Trooper Scout Trooper Clone Pilot Jet Trooper Clone Commander Jedi HEROES - Obi Wan, Anakin, QUI-GONN-JIN, Aalya Secura, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Mace Windu, Padme, Yoda, Jar Jar, CIS Super Battle Droid Battle Droid Assassin Droid Droid Pilot Droideka (No shield) Magna Guard Droideka (With shield) HEROES - Darth Maul, Darth Tyrannus, Emperor, Jango Fett, Rebellion Rebel Troop Rebel Scout Rebel Heavy Trooper Rebel Pilot Bothan Spy Wookie Jedi HEROES - Luke, Yoda, Obi-wan, Chewy, Han Solo, Leia, Wicket, Antilles, Empire Storm Trooper Shock Trooper Scout Trooper Imperial Pilot Admiral Dark Trooper Bounty Hunter HEROES - Darth Vader, Emperor, Tarkin, Boba Fett, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 For the last time, dont make giant lists, they be no fun to read. I would like to see a map like Foy from CoD: UO where on the sides of the town, theres massive tank v tank action and in the town, tanks are ownd and infantry battles are the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_92 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Yeah that would be a great level. I want the gunships brpught back for ground battles. to help transport troops and supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Newfie Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Give snipers more equipment. In the BF 1 PS2 demo, the rebel marksman had a disguise kit that allowed you to sneak by imp. stormtroopers unnoticed. Snipers should have this - Primary Weapons _______________ Sniper Rifle Blaster Pistol Disguise Kit Secondary Weapons __________________ Thermal Detonators x2 Recon Droid x1 Autoturret x1 Snipers should also be able to repair speederbikes when in them but not other vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Actually, I think the engineer should be able to repair vehicles, but snipers should take the demolition role away from the 'pilot' class, which I'd scrap. Like...BF2142! So you can literally create an Arc trooper, do you snipe people from a distance, or blow crap up? How about planting bombs and then sniping them when the time is right? Oh yeah, Jawa, your idea is so clever, it wont be in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Newfie Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 What do you mean , the engineer does repair vehicles, thats its main purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Just what I mean redTech, it doesnt shoot at you always like it should, and then not always straight. That previous list, most thing in it have been discussed twice already, but most dont read the last 5 pages anyway. They are all in mods, but it would be nice to see them in the game, done right. It is not a bad idea for snipers to have a recon droid. As for "Diguise kit" Just call it a Holoshroud like in ROTE, it makes more sense for instantly transforing you and being able to turn off and on. But for the record, I thought holoshroud shouldnt prtect you from enemy fire. At least very little, so it gets like deactivated after more than one acidental hit. And Jawathehutt if your just going to show up to tell people to shut up then ship out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'm not telling them to shut up, Im telling them what others are saying which is instead of just a page long list, put it in paragraph form, put in some backup info on why it would be a good idea. I don't care about like a few lines like that but huge ones just aren't fun to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Like my list ?** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettscommander Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 New planets: Raxus prime, backura New factions: utapauians, gungans, naboo gaurd, manderillions New eras: Dark jedi sith war, sith jedi war New units: Shock troopers, Space troopers, Crab droid New ships: At-Pt, At-Ap, Swamp Speeder, clone turbo tank More Battle Grounds on each planet: Endor: Bunker, Imperial outpost, Imperial Base//Mygeto: War torn city, Droid manufacturing plant, Landing dock Map maker EU maps More vehicles on each map Larger maps Building/Stealing new ships to make hybirds Damagable buildings Command posts actually worth something Command posts harder to capture: in buildings ect Transport vehicles, artillary More realistic A masive online battle with enormous maps 50X larger than a normal map every month or so. pilotable capital ships, more spawning points in space battles ground to air to space to water to under ground to even other planets! Maybe be a hutt and controll armies of mercenaries. be just a bounty hunter to get paid in a battle to kill an officer or somone. or be a bounty hunter or commando then join two or three more, for your own little highly equiped faction on the battlefront! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettscommander Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Like my list ?** Where is your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Newfie Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Yipee! Page 7! Ok these are the imperial units they have. Command - Imperial Commander (Admiral Piett Uniform) Soldier - Imperial Stormtrooper ( Basic ) Sniper - Imperial Scout Trooper ( Duh ) Demolishon - Imperial Shock Trooper ( Clone Heavy Trooper With New Helmet) Engineer - Walker Operator ( AT-ST or AT-AT pilot or Naval Trooper ) Security - Imperial Guard ( Palpatines Red Dudes, Valorums Black Dudes ) Melee - Dark Trooper Phase 1 Special - Dark Trooper Phase 2 Heros - Darth Vader , Lord Vader , Boba Fett , The Emporer , Anakin Skywalker , Grand Moff Tarkin , General Veers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo_92 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 New planets: Raxus prime, backura New factions: utapauians, gungans, naboo gaurd, manderillions New eras: Dark jedi sith war, sith jedi war New units: Shock troopers, Space troopers, Crab droid New ships: At-Pt, At-Ap, Swamp Speeder, clone turbo tank More Battle Grounds on each planet: Endor: Bunker, Imperial outpost, Imperial Base//Mygeto: War torn city, Droid manufacturing plant, Landing dock Map maker EU maps More vehicles on each map Larger maps Building/Stealing new ships to make hybirds Damagable buildings Command posts actually worth something Command posts harder to capture: in buildings ect Transport vehicles, artillary More realistic A masive online battle with enormous maps 50X larger than a normal map every month or so. pilotable capital ships, more spawning points in space battles ground to air to space to water to under ground to even other planets! Maybe be a hutt and controll armies of mercenaries. be just a bounty hunter to get paid in a battle to kill an officer or somone. or be a bounty hunter or commando then join two or three more, for your own little highly equiped faction on the battlefront! Yeah there are some great stuff in there but I don't think "hybrid ships" are goniing to happen, even iif they did make the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relenzo2 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Mine is back on page three. I am like the only one who even moderately eplained anyhting without rattleing off ideas. They were also all new ideas that hadn't already been worked. I mean, what is half of that stuff on the list above, and Bigger Battles and Sith War and Space Troopers are like WORKED TO DEATH, and... what the... there already is a map maker you know... ever played a mod map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettscommander Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I've tried but I dont know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fettscommander Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I just registered, so can somone just sum up what you've all been talking about. Please. By the way Relenzo2 nice list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Well some Jedi-fetishists want more in the game, some noobs want more heros as well. Sane people want better maps and balance vehicles, whatever. That about sums it. Oh yeah, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJUe2E7Ie8M&mode=related&search= Watch that trailer. It IS Battlefront 3 as it will never, ever be. Oh yeah, and I might just ask random questions, winner gets a no-cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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