ET Warrior Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 And pick fights every chance you can, natrually. Lie, cheat, steal, the objective is to win by any means nessecary. Honestly, the only person in this thread who seems interested in picking fights is you. As regards lying, cheating, or stealing...I'm not sure what to say. I've seen none of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Allen`` Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Back on topic, why are some people gay? I really have no idea. Homosexual activity, it's a choice, but attraction to the same sex? I looked it up and the reasons given are a guess at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 And pick fights every chance you can, natrually. Lie, cheat, steal, the objective is to win by any means nessecary.What statements here are you refering to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Allen`` Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 In the Senate? I've started reporting posts that go against the rules, a browse through the locked threads should give some insight. Specific posts, well it'd be wrong for me to point them out here but below are a few tactics used. And yes, these are ones I use myself. Coming into a new thread that has an opinion that you disagree with, so you pretend to agree with it while portraying it in the worst way. Example: Should Revan be tried and executed, say yes hunt him down and kill him and all those who were with him, let the galaxy burn. A string of posts that are intended to lead your target to a fallacy. Example: in a topic on the space program for example, try and structure your posts so that your target will reply with a fallacy, ie: NASA spent billions to kill the Columbian astronauts. A variation of the above technique, structuring a post to provoke a reply, hopefully a negative one. Example: Americans have no right to complain when terrorists kill them because of their occupation in other countries. Making rules for yourself and other rules for everyone else. Example: "It's Ad Hominem to say that this comment is sick because it implys this person is sick" then when being accused of Ad Hominem claim it isn't. General note--this would be an excellent discussion to take to PMs with the moderators to avoid derailing the thread. --Jae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan435 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 dude....has anyone noticed how ugly lesibians are? omfg i can barely look at them...i bet they couldnt get anything so tehy changed? eh? eh? ehhhhh? try that one on...yea think about that for a sec? ugly chicks=lesbians its true proven scitenfic fact...no doubt, dude im not even joking 4 real serious ugly chicks r lesibians cause they cant get dick at least the ones that arent born with it...thats the reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urluckyday Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Lol, sorry, I think this subject is a little to sensitive for my abrasive comments that I won't get involved at all...you'll thank me in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stream Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I can't even think how I stumbled upon this now but to be honest I can't believe this thread actually exists - does it really matter why people are gay? It's up to them what they do in their private lives - to ask a question like this you might as well have another one asking why people are straight, it's the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 ugly chicks=lesbians its true proven scitenfic fact... Ummm... while I agree that there are cases like those, I can't support your claim as an absolute truth because I've had a chance to see that it's not a universal rule (nope, I'm not referring to porn, or anything even remotely similar. Actually, what the heck, a few months back I went out with some friends to a club and at some point in the crowd of dancing people I noticed two pretty good looking girls making out. Go figure.) to ask a question like this you might as well have another one asking why people are straight, it's the same thing. Well, it's not the same. One answer to your question of why people are straight is that otherwise we wouldn't be here today. However, there is no answer to the question of this thread that everyone in the world can accept. It's a complicated matter to some, simple to others, which is why we're supposed to exchange our opinions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stream Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I guess you're right, my main gripe was really the options of the poll, instead of none of the above why couldn't it have been something like it's not their fault. Anyway point taken and to be honest I just never thought I'd see a thread like this anywhere let alone here. --Stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavyarms Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 My answer to the question is I don't know because I'm not gay and I can't specify. I'm straight because that is what I'm physically attracted, and also because I choose to. I imagine it is the same for homosexuals, but I cannot presume to speak for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I guess you're right, my main gripe was really the options of the poll, instead of none of the above why couldn't it have been something like it's not their fault. Anyway point taken and to be honest I just never thought I'd see a thread like this anywhere let alone here. --Stream It's a controversial topic, and controversial topics are fair game, particularly in this forum. Not everyone views homosexuality in the same way, hence the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I voted 'by choice'. That is what I think. Evidence that made me choose this: Our bodies were not physically made for the same sex! Or at least that is what I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 But your hand is made to err.. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadYorick Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I personally believe that homosexuals are born gay and its not a choice for them. If it was then there would be less gay people. Anyway People are born Hetero and Gay and there is no way around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 It might perhaps be more fair to say that not all homosexual activity can be rationalized away as inate. Sexual "experimentation" is clearly a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Sexual "experimentation" is not really considered gay though. Its like, you are not a smoker if you just smoke a cigarette... and not a wow gamer if you only played WoW for a couple of days thru some free trial. So please, don't bring Sexual "experimentation" into the picture. Someone can be completely straight and decide to do a Sexual "experimentation" for curiosity's sake, or "experimentation" of any kind for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Regardless, sexual experimentation includes homosexual activity. And considered by whom? Besides, if I murder you tomorrow, I'm considered a murderer for the remainder of my life. How's that really any different? (please avoid the oh so obvious sex doesn't equal killing style response). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Regardless, sexual experimentation includes homosexual activity. And considered by whom? Besides, if I murder you tomorrow, I'm considered a murderer for the remainder of my life. How's that really any different? (please avoid the oh so obvious sex doesn't equal killing style response). Apples and oranges. You murdered someone, therefore the application of the term "Murderer" fits and is logically sound. Sexual experimentation can apply to any sexual activity. Never had sex? Getting a little curious and noticing your body reacting to that certain someone in class? Technically sexual experimentation. However people only seem to label that when it comes to trying out something with the same sex. Why are people gay? Because they are, just like some people are lactose intolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 That one day I thought "apples do look so much tastier than oranges", and the zucchini agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 apples and oranges = murder and homoseual activity aren't the same. Nobody said they were the same, just as Ray and Sithy aren't the same either regardless of what they might have in common. You might have been better off taking the tack that one act of anything doesn't axiomatically make you that (ie murderer, thief, homosexual, saint...). The other position comes across as nothing more than a convenient 2x standard. However, experimentation implies a choice (or at least the illusion thereof) versus going lock step with your "programming" (ie in your genes). As to that last statement....then I guess one should just say that bullies are bullies b/c that's what they are, just like some people are albinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Indeed. Just like how I'm awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Ah, yes, man's amazing capacity for self-delusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 No, it's one of the most important universal constants! IS = aVl/e+s(0)^mE I think this has been said earlier in this thread, what you personally like and what you do not, is not a choice. It's based on environment and experiences, just like with all other things you like/dislike. The only choices we make is how we gonna deal with it (i.e. denial, acceptance, shove it down the world's throat, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 What, pray tell, are your experiences made up of if not at least some acts of personal choice? This insistence that people are somehow not responsible for what they do is a little too convenient. However, how we deal with things is (as you note) still a personal choice. So, if I have an impulse to pummel you into dirt, am I not responsible for doing that if I choose to act on that impulse (ie dealing with it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Where did I say people are not responsible for what they do? I said they are not directly responsible for what they like. Just like the question was "why are people gay - born, choice, w/e?" and not "why are people engaging in gay practises - born, choice, w/e?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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