Darth Payne Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Not quite. We can actually only do that if we get permission. For your first question, yes, i think it would look better it the lips matched the rest of the face. Don't really think the exile has much time for make-up. About your second question, what i meant was to include the heads mentioned and exclude the ones not mentioned. You can see the heads i mean if you look at the pic at the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRevan999 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Ok will download and start work on it.Although I could really use the help Darth Balatro in 2da editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Payne Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Umm, LordRevan? I say go ahead and work on it. However we won't be able to add it to the mod if we do not get permision from the author to use it. Edit: Ooh, one thing that's given me a few ideas for both Kotor's is Kotor Fanfiction. One story i read recently called A Kotor Tale(FRevan+Bastila), had an amnesiac Revan get an almost full-back tatoo. Other stories have given me some ideas for clothing, armor and weapons. Edit2: It is now good night for me at 03:00 in the morning. PS: What excactly does the rookie thing mean, and how do i change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferc Kast Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 LordRevan999, I'll PM you with the 2da files first thing in the morning. (Being 10 PM here currently) I do give permission for almost all of my mods to be used in this pack. There are only a few that I would to not add, but I'll point/take them out when the public release installation package is being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthriddick Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 EDIT: Remember! in this post i am #1 Trying to make sure i understood all of the above posts, #2 figure out why everyone was getting so crotchety, and #3 vent some steam. ^_^ please do not take offense. (i am honestly NOT trying to offend anyone. just clear some things up) Guy's guys'! come on! why are we all at each other's throats here? I mean, Yes, i personally wish that RedHawkie, and IniriForge, would reconsider,(because they are both brilliant modders), however if they don't wish to be included... they won't! enough said. Darth InSidious, you are taking this a little TOO seriously don't you think? None of your mods are even on the list, so what EXACTLY do you have to complain about. From what i've read so far, NO MODS THAT DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL FROM THEIR CREATORS WILL BE USED IN THE OFFICIAL RELEASE OF THIS MOD. ONLY APPROVED MODS WILL BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC VERSION OF THIS MOD. And as long as we do not release another modders work without their permission, we may tamper with said mod, to our hearts content. (I personally have tampered with almost EVERY mod i have downloaded, simply so i can make it conform to my personal playing style.) so i repeat. NO files will actually be released to the public. the only file changes will be made by people who already have the files on their computer. The v1.2 build (As far as i understand), would be used ONLY for beta testing purposes, in order to allow use to make sure that this mod pack works like it is supposed to. If at ANY time Prior to release, a odder wishes his mod removed, IT WILL Be. (after release it will be significantly harder to remove individual mods, although that might be solved by use of a patch.) And to add to what i have already said, EVERYONE makes mistakes, and coupled with the fact that this is the Holiday season, mis-interpretations, and mis-communications, are sure to be prevalent. I think i understand why Redhawkie, IniriForge, and Darth InSidious, are so upset,(they believe that WE would take all the credit for this mod pack, with only a small mention in the credits section as to the actual part they have played. I.E. Creating the actual mods that make up the Pack. If it is ANY consolation, we could post the names of the mod Creators at the very top of this thread in bright pink lettering, and include, (inside the Read me), the names of the Actual mod creator's beside their perspective mods. I for one would NEVER have thought about joining this team if i did not believe that the entire thing was honorable. Another thing i would like to point out, is that by RedHawkies Own admission the TSL patcher can only do so much, and so, if to mods you really want to use have the same Appearance file, and the TSL patcher can't amend that Appearance file because it was already amended several times, you are stuck deciding which of the equally great mods to use. the one by Iniri, or the one by red. IF however there was a complete mod pack that already contained many great mods problems like that would not occur. as i have said, i understand Iniris, red's, and Darth InSidious's, reasons for not wanting their mods in this pack, and in different circumstances i might have the same qualms. but i believe that this is a legitimate mod, and well within the parameters of any rules. hope this didn't come acrossed as some sort of rant. It was most certainly NOT a rant. i simply wished to voice my opinion. (by the way, you have my permission to use any of my mods if you were to so choose.) Happy holidays! ~DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serathas Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 EDIT: Remember! in this post i am #1 Trying to make sure i understood all of the above posts, #2 figure out why everyone was getting so crotchety, and #3 vent some steam. ^_^ please do not take offense. (i am honestly NOT trying to offend anyone. just clear some things up) {Snip} Removed body of text to save space. -RH Happy holidays! ~DR thanks for the support, and yeah, i totally agree, i would never have joined if we in any way were supposed to take credit for other than putting the mods together, and the mods we create Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Darth InSidious, you are taking this a little TOO seriously don't you think? None of your mods are even on the list, so what EXACTLY do you have to complain about. DI's concerns are no less valid because he isn't mentioned. It is all about respect... Posting a public list like was done here, before securing any permissions, is not the right way to proceed. I do give Danyael27 props for at least mentioning permissions in his initial post(s). I do not think he is doing this for ill intentions. But alas it will not change my feelings on this matter. And as long as we do not release another modders work without their permission, we may tamper with said mod, to our hearts content. I agree... But, the issue here is not doing something on your end for private use the issue is there being a "release" even a limited one for testing... the mods that have no premissions given needs to be removed until permission is secured. That is the contention. Another thing i would like to point out, is that by RedHawkies Own admission the TSL patcher can only do so much, and so, if to mods you really want to use have the same Appearance file, and the TSL patcher can't amend that Appearance file because it was already amended several times, you are stuck deciding which of the equally great mods to use. the one by Iniri, or the one by red. Actually the issue comes with files named the same like uti, utc files. Common sense would seem to indicate that 2 mods trying to amend the same cell in the same 2da or dialog line won't work together... and no amount of twinking can change that for some mods. IF however there was a complete mod pack that already contained many great mods problems like that would not occur. See above... can't be done for some mods. No matter their "greatness". So enough about this folks, the issue has been made clear so back on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taak Farst Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I am going to quit this team. Sorry but RedHawke, Inyri and DI are right. What this team is basicly doing is compile mods together and get all the credit for it. Sorry.... BUT I DEFINATELY DONT LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT. That has been done in the past and it has really annoyed me, and do not think about Darkkender doing the holowan plugin, that was totally different because all the mods in there made by other modders got credit. I am not allowing you to use any of my mods. See ya EDIT Sorry RedHawke I won't say anything more but I had to say what I thought on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Fett Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Yeah i'm out too... Sorry guys but I agreen with RH, Inyri and DI too. You can still use my mods though I won't be a team member. Sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Xander Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I agree with DDD, Redhawke and Inryi. I quit. You cannot use my mods and I didn't give you my permission to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Payne Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Well guys, i think it is safe to say that this mod is now pretty much dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRevan999 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Don't worry Danyael27,we gathered here just to make a mod pack that saves disk space,I know everybody is concerned about his/her mod that all the fame will go to the team.Now I would just like to say that we all know importance of mods we are trying to ask everyone who we can and I know all you people think is that we will take all the fame then its totally wrong we are not the creaters of all the mod we wish to add in our pack,we are just trying to make a pack which saves our disk space and All the author's who have given permission to the team,if ever this mod pack releases,it would be an honor to give the right and full credits to the creaters of the mods we used in the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serathas Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 People really should read what we have been saying... im going to die from the retardation, that seem to be, when people don't want to listen WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY CREDITS FOR ANY MODS THAT WE DIDN't MAKE, ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND? WE WILL ONLY MAKE MODS COMPATIBLE WITH EACH OTHER, AND ADD A CUSTOM MODULE TO THE PACK, AS A BONUS, THE MODULE WILL BE AN EDITED VERSION OF THE TARIS UPPER CITY CANTINA, SO IT WILL INCLUDE A DUEL ARENA, IN WHICH WE WILL INCLUDE CUSTOM SKINS AND SIMULAR FROM THE PLAYERS WHO MODDED THE CANTINA, WHICH WILL SAY US we will remove any mods in which we don't get permission to use, after latest, 1 week, what makes it so bad if we place the mods before we get permission? its just good advertisement, and if we don't get permission, as we said, we will remove any mods we don't get permission to use we won't take any credits for mods except those we make, we are making mods compatible with each other, and with the holowan cantina, which is a mod im working on Mod Edit: Please don't do that big font thing or use all caps writing again, it is difficult to read and only serves to make you look bad and irritate readers. -RH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthriddick Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Ok. who is still on this team? (i hope my message didn't end up causing all you people to leave........) And how many mods are we currently able to use? as i said, my mods may be used, in fact i would be proud to have them used. with some dialog tweaking my sneaky merchant mod can be used, as well as my re skinned mission. I will be working on a toughness mod which will increase the damage done by weapons to make things more realistic. Once i have completed that it will be up for use as well. (of course if you choose not to use any of my mods that is perfectly fine as well, it's that we seem to have a rather small group all of a sudden....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Payne Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 So far the team members are as follows: Darth Balatro: 2da editing Serathas: K1 Scripter/Modules/Beta tester darthriddick: Scripter/Beta Tester LordRevan999: Skinning/Custom Items/2da Editing I'll still be available with some ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serathas Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 same, if you got some idea's for the holowan cantina, tell me, it will be an edited version of the taris upper city cantina, with a duel arena thing on aswell, where you can challange the members of the mod team, so if you want a custom char in it, be sure to tell me, also if you want armor from any mod, tell which one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRevan999 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Ok,Now I have taken control so from now own I shall tell you people what to do and what to not.Serathas you can continue making your mod.While the others should wait until Danyael27 gives us the list of those who gave their permission.As soon as we get the list of those given permission,we would start again,due to my unfortunate illness and problems from school I will not be here for 2 weeks.Meanwhile all other party members should help serathas complete his mod.darthriddick you will help serathas in beta testing and scripting,while darth balatro will wait.I will PM you all the list of mods danyael27 had prepared for using mods.Please contact everyone and tell them that we are not here take credit for mods we are here for on making a pack and taking that credit while giving the author's their full and complete credit's in the mods which they had created and given us permission.Until I come please hear me you should do what I said,especially darthbalatro you are the person responsible for send permission requests.Bye everyone and enjoy Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serathas Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Ok,Now I have taken control so from now own I shall tell you people what to do and what to not.Serathas you can continue making your mod.While the others should wait until Danyael27 gives us the list of those who gave their permission.As soon as we get the list of those given permission,we would start again,due to my unfortunate illness and problems from school I will not be here for 2 weeks.Meanwhile all other party members should help serathas complete his mod.darthriddick you will help serathas in beta testing and scripting,while darth balatro will wait.I will PM you all the list of mods danyael27 had prepared for using mods.Please contact everyone and tell them that we are not here take credit for mods we are here for on making a pack and taking that credit while giving the author's their full and complete credit's in the mods which they had created and given us permission.Until I come please hear me you should do what I said,especially darthbalatro you are the person responsible for send permission requests.Bye everyone and enjoy Christmas. ah well, i got to wish you merry x-mas, then, hehe yeah, i will work on my mod some tomorrow, or the days after x-mas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthriddick Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Ok, works for me. Serathas if you need help just let me know. (i'm able to do BASIC scripting, and Skinning, as well as UTI editing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serathas Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 yeah, i need some help with my dialogue script, to get it working, i compiled it and all, the dialogue itself works, but the merchant script won't open in the dialogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I've read enough of what's going on in this lengthy discussion that I do not want any of my mods included in this pack if you were planning on doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Payne Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Here are the ones we have permission from. I would suggest double checking with these three and the other team members as well to make sure we have all the permission. Perhaps placing said permission in #1 is a good idea. Permission Recieved from: Darth DingDong mindtwistah LordRevan999 And perhaps a list of those who have not given their permission would also be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serathas Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I've read enough of what's going on in this lengthy discussion that I do not want any of my mods included in this pack if you were planning on doing so. that shows that i was just right in what i said, WE ARE NOT STEALING OR WE DON'T TAKE CREDIT FOR ANY MODS EXCEPT THOSE WE CREATE people don't read whats said in the thread, they do only read some posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Fett Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I think one of the reasons people are saying things like this 'cos they don't really know you... When Darkkender did the Holowan Plugin it was different 'cos everyone knows and trusts him... If you did this after you've been here a while and done a few favours and shw you mean well people would be alot more sympathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthriddick Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Well everyone KNOWs me. i doubt many TRUST me, but everyone KNOWs me. ^_^ DarthDingDong i have to say you have a point... I just wish people would actually read ALL the messages, not just the ones posted by the well known people. At the very least, (considering shouting at them, and typing in extra bold font hasn't helped), i wish there was some way to convince these people of our good intentions. We could post another thread With the names of the Contributing modders at the very top in Bright pink and white lettering, with little hearts all around, and ask that it be stickied or something. XP ah well... at least we have a few contributors. (who I think should be commended of letting us use their mods to make life easier for all of our fellow modders.) So THREE CHEERS FOR: Darth DingDong mindtwistah LordRevan999 HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY! ^_^ Merry Christmas Everyone! or Merry (Insert the Religion of choice's holiday here) ~DR Edit: Sorry.. I just copy/pasted from Danyael27's list. ^-^ So THREE CHEERS FOR: Darth DingDong mindtwistah LordRevan999 Serathas darthRiddick (kinda odd to be cheering myself though...) HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY! EDIT: Happy birthday by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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